CHEMDOG the story no one told... of a time long gone

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have you smoked 91chem?

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  • no

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  • they said it was

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i dont remember that place. Seaside near long beach island? My best friend got married on that beach.
Like Tom's river across the bridge, the boardwalk. LBI Has a nice boardwalk but seaside is better then Atlantic city, atleast when I was a kid... rides the water park is bomb, the three brothers pizza, saw mill, sausage n peppers... orange custard! LBI chicken and the egg! Love it... never go hot first...
 
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Like Tom's river across the bridge, the boardwalk. LBI Has a nice boardwalk but seaside is better then Atlantic city, atleast when I was a kid... rides the water park is bomb, the three brothers pizza, saw mill, sausage n peppers... orange custard! LBI chicken and the egg! Love it... never go hot first...


yum! Only thing i still miss about jersey is the food. :-)
 
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I'm not sure what you're replying to? I'm aware that MassG spread clones and the rest is history. Even with that though, it wasn't until the last decade or so that most people even learned the story. I was responding to OP asking why the breeder/grower of Dogbud never came forward.


Regardless, the idea that the dogbud in question came from Hawaii (where it was supposedly seeded), was imported to the mainland, and made its way to fucking Indiana is really and truly absurd. It's just such a wild stretch in an attempt to cling on to a fabled tale, that goes against the stories already told from the people involved.
NoD might have been murdered because 91chem came out... you know the old days, of we are partners and you gave them a seed or cut with asking me... blam! Now how are we going to know if someone steals our shit if everyone has it... it was one of those old drak days island legends I over herd fuck8ng high off my ass at some picnic table with the guys who would know... I've smoked the conveted strains from all around, and chem91 is kind of like this one I called dallar bag, who knows what they called it. This is fucking ages ago. Kauai electric and this anxiety tincture, memories flood back. But I cannot recall much no names or faces cuz I was so high the world was like tripping, but was clear and clean functional highs, it was a thing back in the late 80s beginning of the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, the plant is either an extinct molokai wonder or maui transplant or something like that. But PNW has been chilling in hawaii long time... sometimes they have fire, but certain highs just dont translate like HP13 from the Oregon area I had wasn't the fire of maui grown HP13 clone I had like 10yrs ago... but the reason the breeder of chem91 cant reply was because he was murdered sometime after late 1989- 2000 early. Police could get evidence cold case. and was not the kind of guy who catch heat for credit or cash... old school pro. His gfs were super nice. One had fire... I mean FIRE! so long ago and I still remember and my memories are shit but you know when you smoke a bong hit and it's like your in a cartoon... for some reason i remember that... i jus use to surf allover and was chill. Herd all kind old bud tales from the dark days of budz... all kine...
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99% of black market weed in America has been sold without anyone at the oz or pound level having any idea of who the breeder/grower is.

This was 91 before seed sales or anything was a glint in most any grower's eyes. Add in the name game, the number of hands it passed through from grower to Greg, arrests, deaths, etc., and you come to realize thag the original grower, if they're even alive or outside of prison, likely has no idea they're this big mystery.
But there is this whole accepted lie that just cuz your buds and beans come from hawaii its gonna be kine grade... nope. I have smoked so much shit trash buds grown in hawaii soil and all over like fucking shit buds! Lacked power and flavor everything like why waste your time... some of the worst weed I ever smoked has been from hawaii...
Its really about the grower and thier know along with thier strain knowledge. All these people wasting cash to buy land out here thinking it's going to be fire... like hahahaha then it comes of shit and they pusher talk it up and bribe like others will say its fire... while a few breeder and grower legends have pulled legen fire out here is only because they already pulled fire before. Save you money buy I one of those midwest flat zone... the whole the sun makes it and the soil biology... naw brah, cuz I smoked Dutch Hawaiian weed and it fucking sucked even shit not sprayed with poison. But there are some guys who grow the firest buds but all synthetic and I'm like brah brah your shit would be even more fire organic. But nope... idk cant fix stupid, but stupid will land you in a shitty situation...and maybe dead...
I could grow better weed in canada with my indoor set up how I like it, then in hawaii I'm talking the whole high effect flavor yeild....
But big island genetics brah does have fire and he doesn't pay me or give aloha for my saying shit like this I even sent him my diary hoping for a bunch of free shit cuz no one had his shit in pictures and everyone I MEAN EVERYONE I TALKED TO WAS LIKE FUCKING JOKE BRAH not legit... but it is legit. And I know it is. But also I know how to pull great effect buds and if the strain cut get da flava going be there as fire! Got legit after taste on my 707... fire.
So before you think let me waste my hard earned cash on a farm in Hawaii (watching these mainland transplants trying to make next weeks groceries at the market lol!) Brah just lobby for the USA to make buds legal and let us go to south America and other place to crop huge and send up here, and crop in middle america... fuck that gmo corn!

Fuck your property values brah!only if you grow fire do you have fire... dont make me go all nick cage in his new movie... running with the devil... cuz I care enough about purity to go all vengeful wrathful god on anyone! Or anything that challenges my way! I'm God the alfather and I gave nothing authority above me....AWWWW!!! WATCH THE WORLD BURN ON TV FOR THE DISRESPECTFUL BULLSHIT THE HUMANS HAVE PERPETUATED ON ME AFTER I JUST WANT RO HAVE A GOOD TIME!
 
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I'm not sure what you're replying to? I'm aware that MassG spread clones and the rest is history. Even with that though, it wasn't until the last decade or so that most people even learned the story. I was responding to OP asking why the breeder/grower of Dogbud never came forward.


Regardless, the idea that the dogbud in question came from Hawaii (where it was supposedly seeded), was imported to the mainland, and made its way to fucking Indiana is really and truly absurd. It's just such a wild stretch in an attempt to cling on to a fabled tale, that goes against the stories already told from the people involved.
So true, there is absolutely no connection between chem91 and Hawaii... that was the point I was trying to make earlier.
 
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NoD might have been murdered because 91chem came out... you know the old days, of we are partners and you gave them a seed or cut with asking me... blam! Now how are we going to know if someone steals our shit if everyone has it... it was one of those old drak days island legends I over herd fuck8ng high off my ass at some picnic table with the guys who would know... I've smoked the conveted strains from all around, and chem91 is kind of like this one I called dallar bag, who knows what they called it. This is fucking ages ago. Kauai electric and this anxiety tincture, memories flood back. But I cannot recall much no names or faces cuz I was so high the world was like tripping, but was clear and clean functional highs, it was a thing back in the late 80s beginning of the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, the plant is either an extinct molokai wonder or maui transplant or something like that. But PNW has been chilling in hawaii long time... sometimes they have fire, but certain highs just dont translate like HP13 from the Oregon area I had wasn't the fire of maui grown HP13 clone I had like 10yrs ago... but the reason the breeder of chem91 cant reply was because he was murdered sometime after late 1989- 2000 early. Police could get evidence cold case. and was not the kind of guy who catch heat for credit or cash... old school pro. His gfs were super nice. One had fire... I mean FIRE! so long ago and I still remember and my memories are shit but you know when you smoke a bong hit and it's like your in a cartoon... for some reason i remember that... i jus use to surf allover and was chill. Herd all kind old bud tales from the dark days of budz... all kine... View attachment 1099573
Who the hell is nod? You personally know the breeder or grower of dogbud from the pnw?
 
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So true, there is absolutely no connection between chem91 and Hawaii... that was the point I was trying to make earlier.
The psychadelic narcotic effect is sanonimous with most of the old Hawaii strains...
 
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Who the hell is nod? You personally know the breeder or grower of dogbud from the pnw?
I'm sure its explained in the post somewhere...
 
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Who the hell is nod? You personally know the breeder or grower of dogbud from the pnw?
Most pnw shit is over hyped... and they just do pusher tactics... i can get louder and trash talk everyone... it's why so many dudes who come out here end up leaving because we smell the bullshit and are like no pal. Your hostile bogus style doesnt mix out here beat it haole or else... there is a huge increase of craft breeders on the west coast that want dog to be from there for the clout. But most the real special buds in hawaii, someone like you would sooner get false cracked then smoked out with it... while there is hidden gems all over PNW and the mainland many from the regions ban together even if they are wrong for the sake of price point bullying. There are very few strains that have legend effects that cross over once they go state side... but they exist. And there are traits of the 91chem that are certain Hawaii strains... and only a few strains have that renown Hawaiian effect of functional tripper narcotic, and its consistency is so much... to put it blunt a lot if racism and brown hate and shit like catpiss and 91 chem are probably from certain dudes long gone from out here because I smoked a few coveted strains out here and herd stuff but the experence made me think they have to be from some local boy grower who learned from some hippy back in the day or something like that. So unless the guys who have the real Hawaii chron dont want people to know about thier buds, most if the super psychadelic highly functional narcotic buds were breed by amazing old school dudes here in hawaii. And brought after stable to PNW and other starting point hub in the connection chains. Yep!
 
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So true, there is absolutely no connection between chem91 and Hawaii... that was the point I was trying to make earlier.
Dog bud is not pnw its Hawaii so is original fucking catpiss and a few others that are renowned... if you come Hawaii n I smoke you out with fire and your not legit about how it effects you and do the it's alright with the wow faces... brah... brah... people all no it's ok if I fuck with you but you cant fuck with me... hahahaha. I'm real player i been around the best buds you could never smoke my whole life and am known for telling it like i honestly see it... among other things.....😇. So what's said is one thing but till you show me 91 chem that is from one and has the same fucking fire it has here and in NYC with the fucking Hawaiian connects or stolen soil from hawaii in the mainland... you got nothing. And I know the strains. I passed on 100k a yr to fuck with weed and I have been all over and got better drugs then 95% of you always... or that night mate that you legit had will come true like the last fuckers... and I just walk away if possible because why would I let some loser swing on me because they can handle the truth... so what company are you from cuz most companies have shit gear and I'm not being a dick but I know good gear when i have it. And green so much d rate seeds from over hyped dishonest fucks... so cuz you read on some forum or show doesnt mean shit! Because I've known and god has kept some of the good dudes on the DEA most wanted hidden... and thier shit is fire. And no most dont get that real chron cuz a real pro smells the heels and is like what... but till you pull 72hr effects with the next day being a great day trip from some fucking orange zkittles a main land strain... then please type more bullshit incase you do end up dropping something good. Bud if your trying to fuck with my know or rep. I'm gonna fight back with a brah you and I and anyone here who knows dudes like jj will tell you hawaii is renowned for some of the best breed shit... most legendary fire has hawaii bud somewhere in it and they dont say it either. Cuz its stolen or cuz they dont want to deal with the boxing out the industry most the lower level guys do...fucking tired of it. Look at my bud LOOK LOOOK looks dont mean shit it's the high and shit that's why I'm smoking it... my control if a med grower I know in hawaii who is straight cali and his shit is fire but my shit outdoor Hawaiians top his best shit. And fuckers with big names send him gear and cuts cuz he is epic with his grow... and my bud will still top his that will rival most cartridges here and the mainland... so either accept my forgotten fuckign wasted rant about shit I shouldn't recall... and be like wow... 72 hr of tripping vision impressive. Cuz that as close to wonder as touring going to get... even if you got great pictures...
 
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Sounds to me like ur hoping somebody's going to give u a chem 91 clone ?,just like that?,and of course,your the only person who could verify it,bet u still wouldn't be happy,I'm out,if I wanted to listen to ramblings of a madman I'd go to the local nuthouse.76
 
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Sounds to me like ur hoping somebody's going to give u a chem 91 clone ?,just like that?,and of course,your the only person who could verify it,bet u still wouldn't be happy,I'm out,if I wanted to listen to ramblings of a madman I'd go to the local nuthouse.76


LoL, what's wrong with hoping someone's going to give your a chem 91 clone? Just like that?
I've had shit like that happen MANY TIMES, so I don't think it's completely unusual, and hope is a good thing.

There's a lot of one hand washing the other around here, and I for one, like it that way. But personally, I don 't mind reciprocating. Many of us are together in this endeavor, I believe. $$$ be damned. It's done for the love of the plant.
 
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Just gonna throw my 2 cents in...as just another "haole" who came from the mainland / PNW to hawaii....the reasons people leave hawaii are obvious...its expensive, everything from beat up Toyota trucks being double blue book value to a loaf of bread, a hostile culture doesn't want mainlanders, the services such as mail, power, water, etc are all subpar, and the rain is insane, the poverty and the crime that go with it etc, and everything here is harder - from digging a hole to clearing jungle off your land. top if off with incompetent politicians and regulators, shitty education and shitty paying jobs....all push people off the island.

That said, it is a beautiful special place to call home, and i do believe those that are meant to be here will stay. And those that aren't wont.

Also - I think one thing many local hawaiians Ive met dont realize is the scale difference of the grows...Sure a lot of people here have a 20x20 canopy from ace and are growing some plants...but there are very few true farms producing hundreds of pounds a year consistently. Vs the mainland where there are thousands of farms all doing massive scale right in the open. Dont get me wrong - Hawaii has a strong cannabis culture, but compared to the west coast, the emerald triangle, southern oregon, etc, the numbers pale in comparison. Sure some of them are pushing trash, but many many many many west coast growers have given their life over to growing...and passion produces quality.
I agree with the last part. The first part, I think is political, and I don't want to go there.

But yes, the Natives do want them off the Island, and they want to be left alone, because before the invasion, they had a great culture, until the pit vipers, vultures and organized crime moved in to prey on these populations of people, set up camp, and take the land away. They've been suffering every since. There are always two sides to a story, and it seems like one only ever gets told.

So you can pin it onto them, but I don't see it that way.
 
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I agree with the last part. The first part, I think is political, and I don't want to go there.

But yes, the Natives do want them off the Island, and they want to be left alone, because before the invasion, they had a great culture, until the pit vipers, vultures and organized crime moved in to prey on these populations of people, set up camp, and take the land away. They've been suffering every since. There are always two sides to a story, and it seems like one only ever gets told.

So you can pin it onto them, but I don't see it that way.

After I typed it out I deleted it...realized it really doesnt matter what I say about it and has nothing to do with chemdog
 
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After I typed it out I deleted it...realized it really doesnt matter what I say about it and has nothing to do with chemdo
After I typed it out I deleted it...realized it really doesnt matter what I say about it and has nothing to do with chemdog
Good eye, I am very capable of the same thing, wasn't trying to be a jackass. We all see things from a slightly different perspective, I suppose.
 
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Sounds to me like ur hoping somebody's going to give u a chem 91 clone ?,just like that?,and of course,your the only person who could verify it,bet u still wouldn't be happy,I'm out,if I wanted to listen to ramblings of a madman I'd go to the local nuthouse.76
i have 1 going and i have 12 fems from cali connect waiting for a card spot and cali connect is legit. it will be better then a clone of 91chem cuz cali is just that good. 818headband was the shit!
 
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LoL, what's wrong with hoping someone's going to give your a chem 91 clone? Just like that?
I've had shit like that happen MANY TIMES, so I don't think it's completely unusual, and hope is a good thing.

There's a lot of one hand washing the other around here, and I for one, like it that way. But personally, I don 't mind reciprocating. Many of us are together in this endeavor, I believe. $$$ be damned. It's done for the love of the plant.
id love a clone of it to put next to my cali connect fems and regular... it would be the ulitmate
 
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