Chuck's Grow Journal #1 - 1st try Growing and battling Impatience

[ChuckFinnl3y]

still a bit busy so couldnt inspect properly but it seem to be getting worse

 

[ChuckFinnl3y]

The problems begin to show up on all the Plants now, i plan to give them a shower later to rule out any left over residues from Foliar application.

Going back and forth thinking it was caused by me (from foliar mix) or caused by pests.

After discussing it a bit i regained some confidence and went from thinking pest issues back to dump me with liquid on leaves while lights on, but now the problem seem to be spreading without doing another Foliar.

No need to sugarcoat anything hit me up with what your thinking. Even if your not sure and dont want me to steer in the right direction rn im really confused and dont really now what i should do next. So please hit me up

@HerbalEdu
@ACSippi
@Imzzaudae

 

[Bilber]

Hey Chuck.....don't use neem oil .......read up on it....it is some bad shit!

 

[ChuckFinnl3y]

Hey Chuck.....don't use neem oil .......read up on it....it is some bad shit!

i tried doing a little bit of digging the day after you mentioned it first, and tbh i forgot about it after some light reading and gotten distracted by other things but the only negative info i found was it may not beein effective or killing positive things but nothing that would indicate doing direct harm to the plant.
But ill try to find some articels that go into more detail, rn im just to distracted chasing my tail

 

[ChuckFinnl3y]

Doesnt look as bad in the pictures so i made a video that might give a better Idea.

And just to clarify, im sure i had or having pests due to some prior leave damage, just not sure if they are in the rootzone thats causing the yellow/darkening.

 

[Bilber]

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[ChuckFinnl3y]

Got ya, at this point im just totally lost and dont really know what i should try.

I've just sprayed the leaves with tab water and let them sit under regular light with a fan blowing until they are dry enough to put them back under the grow light. (Only to rule out residues left behind from foliar )

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This just looks so odd, and i couldnt quiet find something like that. Given im just comparing pictures form sites like https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-symptoms-pictures but i dont wanna do more Harm while trying to solve the Issue if i can.
So i was hoping someone could make an educated guess with the strangeneess it has become.
Right now i wouldnt know what do to and just "sit it out" to see if it gets worse other than just watering to rule out nute lockout.
Maybe you guys have an Idea what it could be or suggest an action to try out first @Captspaulding @Stokes @LoveGrowingIt
and btw sry for all the tagging i dont like doin it at all in general but im kinda desperate rn

 

[Captspaulding]

Looks to me that whatever pest spray you used was too hot a mix, and there was too much still on leaf when lights where on.
This happens a couple few days after the application. I’m not saying burns here, but clogged leaves.

 

[Stokes]

Very odd markings. I cant say that ive seen anything quite like it. By the hooking and shaping of some of the leaves I would suspect its something root related .

What type of bugs did see?

 

[Stokes]

@Captspaulding

What did he spray?

 

[Bilber]

@Captspaulding

What did he spray?

Neem

 

[Bilber]

Soooooo.....neem is shown to be an all-around good product when used correctly........this kid still doesn't like it.....( yet, for the life of me, I cannot remember why.....there had to have been an article or something..)

I'm 100% agreeing with the Capt.....that has happened to plants when I tried foliar spraying......

Yes....my timing was off and I've since learned my lesson....

Since that mistake, if I'm foliar spraying it, it's getting the GNick treatment.....water....either out of a hose outside or the shower wand....

 

[Captspaulding]

@Captspaulding

What did he spray?

Not sure, just saw in one of the earlier posts he was battling a pest, so I just assumed bc it looks like damage that I have seen before. I was spraying really early pre lights on, about 2 hours. Thought that was enough time but I was wrong. A couple days later had a bunch of fans die back

Edit : it was neem.

 

[ChuckFinnl3y]

Looks to me that whatever pest spray you used was too hot a mix, and there was too much still on leaf when lights where on.
This happens a couple few days after the application. I’m not saying burns here, but clogged leaves.

Thats nice to hear, i suspected the Foliar (Neem+Emulsifier) to be the culprit at first but ruled it out as new spots appeared a couple of days after

Very odd markings. I cant say that ive seen anything quite like it. By the hooking and shaping of some of the leaves I would suspect its something root related .

What type of bugs did see?

wasnt sure at first but now while taking them out and cleaning the tent i discover one under the fan and was able to take as closer look, ...Gnats...

Soooooo.....neem is shown to be an all-around good product when used correctly........this kid still doesn't like it.....( yet, for the life of me, I cannot remember why.....there had to have been an article or something..)

I'm 100% agreeing with the Capt.....that has happened to plants when I tried foliar spraying......

Yes....my timing was off and I've since learned my lesson....

Since that mistake, if I'm foliar spraying it, it's getting the GNick treatment.....water....either out of a hose outside or the shower wand....

Yea i hadnt any problems with the first application i did, but lesson learned gotta be carefull with it if i use it again.

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As said above ive now sprayed the leaves to get rid of residues and put them back in the tent hoping the problem is contained.
Could new spots still appear after doing this if it was caused by the Foliar?

 

[Oldchucky]

I don’t know anything about diagnosing, but the fact that it’s happening to all the plants could be a key clue.

 

[Stokes]

Thats nice to hear, i suspected the Foliar (Neem+Emulsifier) to be the culprit at first but ruled it out as new spots appeared a couple of days after


wasnt sure at first but now while taking them out and cleaning the tent i discover one under the fan and was able to take as closer look, ...Gnats...

Yea i hadnt any problems with the first application i did, but lesson learned gotta be carefull with it if i use it again.

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As said above ive now sprayed the leaves to get rid of residues and put them back in the tent hoping the problem is contained.
Could new spots still appear after doing this if it was caused by the Foliar?

Im not sure what style growing youre doing, but if its not organic you can do a peroxide bath to kill gnats iirc, not sure on ratio because i havent done it. You can also put mosquito dunks/bits in your water and it should handle any larvae.

Theyre a pain in the dick, the leaf curl you had is consistent with them in the roots. But those leaf markings were crazy, hadnt seen that before. Hope you get it sorted buddy

 

[Stokes]

Thats nice to hear, i suspected the Foliar (Neem+Emulsifier) to be the culprit at first but ruled it out as new spots appeared a couple of days after


wasnt sure at first but now while taking them out and cleaning the tent i discover one under the fan and was able to take as closer look, ...Gnats...

Yea i hadnt any problems with the first application i did, but lesson learned gotta be carefull with it if i use it again.

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As said above ive now sprayed the leaves to get rid of residues and put them back in the tent hoping the problem is contained.
Could new spots still appear after doing this if it was caused by the Foliar?

Foliars can really damage your plants if done with the wrong dose or at the wrong times. Not gonna argue with any other posters about it, but yeah i think with the edges like that it is fair to say it may have did some damage. I always spray just before lights out with anything

 

[ChuckFinnl3y]

Im not sure what style growing youre doing, but if its not organic you can do a peroxide bath to kill gnats iirc, not sure on ratio because i havent done it. You can also put mosquito dunks/bits in your water and it should handle any larvae.

Theyre a pain in the dick, the leaf curl you had is consistent with them in the roots. But those leaf markings were crazy, hadnt seen that before. Hope you get it sorted buddy

doing bottled organic nutes in peat moss, gonna see if the problem persists.
Cleaned the leaves and put up yellow stickers but if it still gets worse in a couple of days i guess ill have no choice but to try a Soil drench.
Better to kill the microbes than have my plants struggeling and getting a nasty surprise in flower

 

[Bilber]

For sure if it's gnats, let the soil dry out as much as possible.....have a fan blowing on the soil surface....they have trouble flying and landing in windy conditions.....

 

[Stokes]

doing bottled organic nutes in peat moss, gonna see if the problem persists.
Cleaned the leaves and put up yellow stickers but if it still gets worse in a couple of days i guess ill have no choice but to try a Soil drench.
Better to kill the microbes than have my plants struggeling and getting a nasty surprise in flower

Might want to have a look at mosquito bits. You can put them on top of soil or you can just leave them in your watering pot. Theyre bacteria (Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis), so i dont think it will have any adverse impacts on your microbes. I used them last grow when i was in organic soil and had the fuckers