4/29
So the guys at UC are preaching a system where you mix up the next weeks nutes ahead of time and then use that to top off your system via a float valve. They say that this method is better for a number of reasons.
1. You can adjust the top off res's PH so that as your system's PH creeps it will offset the change in PH (this would require some fine tuning).
2. You save water and nutes because you don't empty the system and refill it each week.
3. You keep all of the good microbes healthy and thriving throughout the grow instead of re-establishing them each res change.
Supposedly the big tomato farmers are doing this right now and it works great for them. They do a 50% res change 2-3 times through out the entire grow, veg and bloom.
It sounds like it makes a lot of sense. I think there is an article on Urban Garden about this technique but I can't find it....
Jack and everyone else, what is your opinion on this?
The above is how I have my system set up, The first couple weeks I was topping off with RO water then doing add backs..I now have the 200 gallon rez nuted up and do my add backs via float valve..Works great and the plants look better then any plants I have ever grown
05/01
DAY 12 OF 12 ON 12 OFF... A 12 hour flush at 300ppm and now there at 12OO PPM stoped Bud Ignitor started Big Bud...
05/02
Originally Posted by FileError404
Incredible!!
They also look pretty even in size. Very impressive!
Are going to start PK 13/14 like in the Canna schedule? They should almost scare you by next week So what are these things?
Sticking to two boosters
Big Bud and Over Drive...The Hydro shop did a test of almost every combo of bloom boosters and
Big Bud and Over Drive came up the winners..JACK
05/02
Originally Posted by bakershredhead
Hey Jack looking good have u been using the cannazym and roots excell the whole grow at the manufactures reccomended doses?
Yes....I will cut the Roots Excel at the end of week 5 of flower I use 120ml for every 100 gallons, And start bumping up the Cannazym From week 5 on then cut it rite before the flush..JACK
Originally Posted by L-Immortal
Actually he has a valid point albeit a very small one and it needed to be pulled out of some pretty muddy waters.
They do recommend that it is cut out at the end of week three. With that said I’m sure Jack has a method to his madness on running the accelerator thru week 5. You can’t argue the results the man has they are phenomenal to say the least
JAck--Week 3 for how many week strains whats 100.00 to have piece of mind that your roots have the extra push until the end...
05/03
k I wanted to
share my foliar spray program this is what I do and have had good sucess.. Im sure some one has something much better that will yield 20 lbs a light... But this is what I do and have had real world experiance and really good sucess..
I Foliar spray twice a week in a 7 day period. Sea Fuel Bloom at 1tsp per gallon,Sea Mineral 1/2 tsp per gallon,Wet Betty 1 tsp per gallon, Then I switch the next week to Alg-A-Mic at 1 tsp per gallon, Seaful Bloom 1/2 tsp per gallon,Wet Betty 1 tsp per gallon. I alternate back and forth until week 4 bloom..JACK
{06/12}
I foliar spray rite after lights out up to week 3 in flower. Then I only spray SNS 217 as a prevenative for mites ..JACK
05/06
Originally Posted by Carnack
I gotta hand it to you Jack, you have the right approach to this.
Can you elaborate on your feeding schedules sometime? I would like to see how you mapped it out - and I'm sure you did...lol!
Kudos bro...
Jack:
Keeping the nutes simple in bloom I am using Canna Aqua Flora A + B as my base nutes, Roots Excel until the end of week 4, Cannazym, Cal Mag, Week 1 and 2
Bud Ignitor, Week 3 -6
Big Bud, Then finish with Over Drive and then flush, I let the plants tell me what my ppms need to be at. I have not pushed them past 1200 ppm at week 3 now and find that 1,000 and 1,100ppm seem to be where the plant seem most happy at there current stage of growth.The system is super simple as long as every thing is kept simple...JACK
05/16
A couple things Boomer First I am using ultra violet light to kill any mold that tries to form, Second I have a commercial dehumdafier that keeps my Humidity where ever I want it, I have it rite between 45 and 50, And last its like a small wind tunnel in the room Im rocking 5 -12" Vortec fans at 1200 cfm each plus 10 oscillating fans,And 2 -5 ton Air handlers the air is moving big time As far as PH I have had no issues what so ever super stabel and I do not add any PH up or down. Once I mix my nutes my PH is around 5.0 and over a 2 day period its rite at 5.7 to 5.9 and when I do add backs the Ph going in is from 5.5 to 5.9 this keeps everything super stable The highest I have seen it was 6.3 They are at the point where the 250 gallon Rez is lasting 2.5 to 3 days and I could see in the next few days every 2 days easy, This is when they start boosting super hard and anything you throw at them they devour like monsters. Man it almost sounds to good to be true when I start talking about how easy the Under Current buckets are but it really is..And the results well there looking pretty amazing...JACK
05/24 Big Ups to every one for the props...Mello I did not use a humidifier and had
RH in the 30%to 40% range the first 3 weeks of Veg, Is your friend growing with an Under Current? JACK
05/26 40" {centers} seem to be working with the 13 gallons I will be going with 50" centers,
05/31 Hittiing them hard at this point for there final push stopped
Big Bud started Over Drive The Colas are the size of 1000 watt bulbs from top to bottom and this is when the start putting on weight hold on its about to get real good...JACK
05/31 I hate Rock Wool I go straight from the turbo cloner to the Under Current stystem I have not had any issue with damaging roots Just pore some Hydroton in the bottom and place the clones and pore around the roots.JACK
06/17 ... Dropped the Rez temps and night temps in the 60 degree range ...
06/18 Final push....So I drained the rez added 300 ppm of Over Drive only Over Drive no base nutes. This is my third day of flushing and holy fucking shit it made the colas just explode and become Rock hard I'm talking hard as a wooden base ball bat...2 more days and then I will begin to chop the first few.I will take some pics tommorow...Jack
06/20 ... I hate
Bud Candy and would rather flush with straight RO then Final Phase..
There is a reason behind my sucess I am a rookie compared to most, First this is a full time job takes working 7 days a week for the system to work smoothly
Its on here when I started using over Drive ...Week 6 is when I started .Today is the last day of flush they come down tonight Im using RO with Over Drive at 200 ppm for the last 24 hrs
06/24 Jack provides cliff notes: Nutes Miracle Grow, I never flush I really like the taste of Miracle Grow, No Rock Woll, as far as medium goes I use Soil. Thanks for askig I thought no one would ever ask these questions.... Big ups to every one I really appreciate the love I have no clue yet on the yield I do know that mixed spectrum bulbs kicked the shit out of the straight HPS bulbs,I will go all mixed spectrum from here on out, The biggest stalks where in the 6" net pots.And File Error that picture made my day I will pm you my email I want the picture you photo shoped to hang up at the shop. Jack
06/30 Jacks closing thoughts:
OK Here is what the conclusion to my U C Journey has found This run was a test to find out what strains would be best to run in the UC system I am looking for the highest quality Meds along side a high yielding strain some say you cant have both I say bull shit..The
Chemdog #4 x Deep Chunk will have no problem pulling 2 per plant and a few did this run on average they where any where from 1 to 1.50# (I was running 2 phenos one short the other pheno had every thing I was looking for)With this pheno and the mixed spectrum she came in at 2.5# I did see towards the end that the tomatoe cages where keeping the plants from opening up I will cage them from the outside next run to allow better training Now the OG Raskal Strawberry Bubba and Master Bubba where the second biggest yielders these two will have no problem hitting my goal of 2 per plant, I will be switching to the 13 gallon buckets and taking out 2 plants per system making a total of 14 per system 28 plants total .The quality is there the weight is there its just a matter of pruning the shit out of the center of the plant they get so bushy with that many lumens on them its just a matter of keeping it under control, I can see where pulling 4 # a plant can be reached with a really good Blue Dream or Casey Jones but for now I will stick to the elites and get them yielding just where I want them...Big Ups To Texas Kid for having the skills to show us all how its done and Big Ups to Daniel for answering all my questions,I should be back up and running with the 13 GALLON UC'S in the next couple weeks ...JACK
07/17
No Ph swings here. And the roots looked great the whole way through. I use Roots Excel and Cannazym, one of the reasons I love this system is how stable the PH is.
It is a must to let the PH swing and not add any PH up or Down I ride mine at 5.0 to 6.3 its usally at 5.9 to 6.1 unless I'm doing add backs/nuting up. And
Chiller temps at 63 to 66 is a must. Jack
Ok I will give it another shot I will ask for everyone to atleast read the first page before asking a question and DO NOT MENTION PEOPLE or PLACES :fighting0003: This is a Legal grow well within my limits..There are 2 rooms on a flip flop burning 30 x1000 watts in each room with 2 x 5 ton ac units in each room, At the moment I am running Under Current Hydro 8 gallon buckets 16 site's per system, 32 sites per room. Soon to be 13 gallon Under current buckets with 3" tubing.There are no in or out vents burning propane and co2 at 1200 to 1500 ppm with 5 can 150's in each room and UV light inside the ac units for killing mold..Strains are Chemdog #4 X DEEP CHUNK,ALIEN DOG, OG RASKALS,FIRE BUBBA,MASTER BUBBA and Strawberry Bubba, Nutes are CANNA'S full line with Roots Excelerator And Magical.. If you ask a questin I will do my best to answer it If I do not answer I am either really busy or the question has been answered more then likley its the second one...:bong2: Give me a minute going to post some pics...JACK :pimp:
Getting ready to put togther my bloom nutes going with CANA AQUA as my base...Has any one had any results with CANNA BOOST, I am also going to use PK 13/14 with
Big Bud and Over drive...Does PK 13 /14 replace
Big Bud or can I use them together?
I rarley ask these types of questions for this very reason there is never a clear answer and it always turns into my buds are the size of a donkeys dick....I have had great sucess with mixing different nutes in the past I never over due it and understad that less is more.That being said It was mearly a question of If any one has ran Both Cana Boost with PK 13/14 Along side
Big Bud and Over Drive..Not hey can you show me your nute collection and school me on what a plant needs..I really dont want to come off like I dont appreciate the advice beacuse I do it just seems unless you have ran Under water culture with the above nute combo you should step away from the key pad,And if you have I am all ears..Lets not make this a pissing match of what nute company is best..Just want to know If I run the above combo for a 9 week strain. When do I start pk13 / 14 ?when do I start Boost?,
BIG BUD? ,OVERDRIVE?...Thanks for the help JACK
Today is day 5 of flower and both systems where given a 5 hour flush at 250 ppm for 6 hours then refilled with Bloom nutes Cana A + B plus Advance
BUD IGNITOR, Cannazym, Roots Excel and Magical..1000 ppm total, I will keep the bloom nutes basic Bud Ignitior,
BIG BUD and OVER DRIVE ...Will be the only boost additives going to keep it simple:cool..The Strawberry Bubba's, and the
Chemdog #4 X Deep Chunk's (4 Deep) are monsters so far so good all is a rockin in the Under Currents :rock ..JACK
Roots Excel until week 3 of flower..:damnhippie:
40" square 40" wide 40" long, The celings are 10' 6"..The bulbs are kept 12" from the plant..JACK
07/17
:rastadancing:
pH swings are typically nutrient related having to do with un or less stable nutrient relationships.....decaying root matter can also drop pH as microbes off gas (shit) into the solution as they bioremediate the root mass. Adding sugars to water culture is another root die back culprit.
The presence of dead root matter is a symptom of some imbalance you've got in your solution......remember water culture offers very little to no buffer for mistakes made in the nutrient solution.
Most common causes for root die back are pH spikes during adjustments and spiking of EC during nutrient add backs......also allowing solution levels to drop too low which can expose roots....drying them out, causing die back....then rot after roots are resubmersed.
Roots should look stellar from veg to harvest....if not, then something is typically out of balance and can usually easily be corrected.....looking forward to seeing your next grow Noone88.
07/17 I
also really like Cannazym and I double up the dose after week 6 through 8 this really helps.
07/25
Ok I will give it another shot I will ask for everyone to atleast read the first page before asking a question and DO NOT MENTION PEOPLE or PLACES :fighting0003: This is a Legal grow well within my limits..There are 2 rooms on a flip flop burning 30 x1000 watts in each room with 2 x 5 ton ac units in each room, At the moment I am running Under Current Hydro 8 gallon buckets 16 site's per system, 32 sites per room. Soon to be 13 gallon Under current buckets with 3" tubing.There are no in or out vents burning propane and co2 at 1200 to 1500 ppm with 5 can 150's in each room and UV light inside the ac units for killing mold..Strains are Chemdog #4 X DEEP CHUNK,ALIEN DOG, OG RASKALS,FIRE BUBBA,MASTER BUBBA and Strawberry Bubba, Nutes are CANNA'S full line with Roots Excelerator And Magical.. If you ask a questin I will do my best to answer it If I do not answer I am either really busy or the question has been answered more then likley its the second one...:bong2: Give me a minute going to post some pics...JACK :pimp:
Getting ready to put togther my bloom nutes going with CANA AQUA as my base...Has any one had any results with CANNA BOOST, I am also going to use PK 13/14 with
Big Bud and Over drive...Does PK 13 /14 replace
Big Bud or can I use them together?
I rarley ask these types of questions for this very reason there is never a clear answer and it always turns into my buds are the size of a donkeys dick....I have had great sucess with mixing different nutes in the past I never over due it and understad that less is more.That being said It was mearly a question of If any one has ran Both Cana Boost with PK 13/14 Along side
Big Bud and Over Drive..Not hey can you show me your nute collection and school me on what a plant needs..I really dont want to come off like I dont appreciate the advice beacuse I do it just seems unless you have ran Under water culture with the above nute combo you should step away from the key pad,And if you have I am all ears..Lets not make this a pissing match of what nute company is best..Just want to know If I run the above combo for a 9 week strain. When do I start pk13 / 14 ?when do I start Boost?,
BIG BUD? ,OVERDRIVE?...Thanks for the help JACK
Today is day 5 of flower and both systems where given a 5 hour flush at 250 ppm for 6 hours then refilled with Bloom nutes Cana A + B plus Advance
BUD IGNITOR, Cannazym, Roots Excel and Magical..1000 ppm total, I will keep the bloom nutes basic Bud Ignitior,
BIG BUD and OVER DRIVE ...Will be the only boost additives going to keep it simple:cool..The Strawberry Bubba's, and the
Chemdog #4 X Deep Chunk's (4 Deep) are monsters so far so good all is a rockin in the Under Currents :rock ..JACK
Roots Excel until week 3 of flower..:damnhippie:
40" square 40" wide 40" long, The celings are 10' 6"..The bulbs are kept 12" from the plant..JACK
It depends on how many weeks you are taking them to?I like to start removing them rite after week 4 and do it over a 2 week period (not all at one time) If your growing for tops only in a SOG it wont make a difference If your growing larger plants it will...Hope this helps...:big_boss:JACK