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in my experience that hasnt been how the autoflower thing works in well over a decade, more like 20 years.. the ruderalis thing jumps ship to a dominant trait through excessive inbreeding just like hermaphrodism can and does. A truly genetically bound herm,ie isnt just a dominant trait, it can actually replace most if bnot all of the males in a species on its own, within a couple gens in a natural population, and thats why 9/10 annuals now a days are all hermaphrodites, evolutionarily designed, in the wild. things like amaranth and cannabis are outliers there. And whether its truly a dominant trait or not is actually irrelevcant to me, because it behaves as one now, and retail market breeders routinely lie about whether their fast photos have reduralis in them or not as well.
Theres a reason im so noisy about the hermaphrodite and reduralis thing these days, they do not behave as recessive traits in many of our lineages anymore, theres been way too much repetitive inbreeding in the genotypes. because of this, it is my opinion that every auto should be treated as if its holding a dominant gebnotype in a first generation cross. CPU's little he she there is a perfect example of what im talking about too. That is exactly what happened on her photoperiod that got pollenated by an auto. that is literally the plant in her photo. If you want to go look at what i was responding to, its the single best example of what im talking about ive ever seen happen, actually. That is a genetically bound hermaphrodite autoflower born from a *stable* photoperiod plant at a single generation. it is quite literally a genetic abomination, and everything i worry about the future of cannabis genetics becoming.
There's only one of only two things that could have happened to make that plant she posted the picture of, both equally troublesome, a breeder lied to her about her photo, or the auto that made pollen had been inbred WAY to excessively without paying attention to the recessive traits at all. Either one can cause a generation of plants like that. They both had the genetically bound recessive hermie trait stacked too, quite obviously lol.
All recessive, That was the case with straight ruderalis genes like 25 years ago and before quite literally half the seedbank photos had ruderalis somewhere in their history.. Hasnt been for over a decade with most of them now and we have entered *very* evolutionarily dangerous waters with the autos, especially considering breeders are lying about long veg autos and calling them fast photos and ruining entire gene pools with their dna
If you hit a photo with the modern stabilized autos you get 1/2 to 3/4 autos and the reulting generation with many (MOST actually) modern photos.
As of today, in my personal experience, it takes a generation or two to remove a stabilized rederalis trait because in most plants it behaves as a dominant trait now. So as far as im concerned it IS a dominant trait. As of right now, with 9/10 stablized autos, if you let them hit a photo, the bulk of your offspring will be autos that start to flower from anywhere from 1 month, to 18 months in.
the longer ones just slowly moreph into non revertable reveg growth itf you keep them around long enough. And they dont even fully revert under 20/4 or 24hrs light
The only safe way forward is to assume ruderalis to be a dominant trait. And thats the only way to easily and quickly educate new growers about a rapidly growing issue in cannabis genetics imho. So thats what i do. As with most things this issue is nuanced and complicated, i simplify it as much as i can tbh. You never have any idea now a days when youre going to have a ruined generation of seed because of how much the genetically bound hermie and ruderalis thing is floating around stacked through inbreeding unless youve been with your lineages from the beginning. And even then, bringing in new DNA can be quite sketchy these days. You truly never know when a generation of genetic hermies or half autos is gonna pop out anymore when working with seedbank genetics from retail market breeders with a bottom line above all else. I generally wont touch seedbank plants to bring into my own lineages unless theres a couple generations of non inbred reg crosses made with known lineages, then ill hunt out and select a male to bring the DNA into my lineages, Its the only way ive found over the last decade or so to make sure i dont have random autos and genetically bound hermies make their way into my lineages from the seedbanks.
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i have to buy more soil for my outdoor pots. I've used a bunch for some container veggies. I'll post my seedling pics in a couple days, they grow slowly with my little germination station lights. I've got 3 decent clones and i'm giving away the 4th clone. I think 6 plants is enough to handle for me LOL. Gawwwd this stiffness i'm feeling from weed wacking doesn't let me work for long.
