Curling/folding Of Lower Leaves

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Trentski420

Trentski420

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So it's kind of hard to describe there's only a few here and there and seem to mostly take place on lower/older leaves
 
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PharmHand

Could be too much nitrogen.... What you feeding? How strong? How often? What medium? Ever water to runoff? What's it going in/ coming out at? Zoom away and get a whole plant pic that helps too. Is there wind hammering the plants? Side lighting or overhead?
 
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rascali

I usually see that when you're driving your nutrients hard at the limit where the growing tips are fine, but sheltered areas don't get enough light to fully process all the flowing nute's. Those low light areas then will show classic signs of high N.
That's what I tell myself, and if I use it as feedback on the next watering it usually subsides rather than progresses.
 
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hermit186

hermit186

Over fed and need trimming of the bottom and your working on Ntox very early, cal/mag if you use it will put you there in the first 2 weeks of flower. If they are over fed then will bet you Ph is off also. Compounded your growing in a tray and if water stands in there for any length of time (1 or 2 hours) you are going to end up chaseing your tail and your on the yellow brick road already. If your showing red vains on the stems is eather PH lock out or you need Mag. You are walking on a tight rope your options are forward or back or can you fly. Your right here at the start and they look ok almost good but not for much longer.
What questions
feeding?
PH?
Media?
how often do you water?
what is your nutrients and what is the ppm of your mix.
Humidity ?
Grow temperature.?
From your pictures I see some thing that make me wonder how they look as good as they do.
The don'ts I see.
Leavening any water standing in a catch basen is very bad Idea. The H2O evaporates out and in time you will make a concentrated mess the H2O evaporates and what you have is the beginning of a host of problems.

Want help need the info above and pictures that show the whole plant and from up higher and one from down low looking up.
Trim out some of the lower growth and moderate the plant to plant contact on the top 25% of the plant no contact.
Plants are stupid but they are predictable and as they grow they are looking for room if they cant find the room to grow you have to fake them out trim the bottom which never produces anything worth smoken. You should have air movement on the order of the leaves moving lightly. I run my fans at the trim level and on low.
 
Trentski420

Trentski420

I usually see that when you're driving your nutrients hard at the limit where the growing tips are fine, but sheltered areas don't get enough light to fully process all the flowing nute's. Those low light areas then will show classic signs of high N.
That's what I tell myself, and if I use it as feedback on the next watering it usually subsides rather than progresses.
Ding ding ding lol ya she's kind of tall for the light and has a lot of low light areas I added a CFL and a high output fluorescent to surround her along with the LED
 
Trentski420

Trentski420

Over fed and need trimming of the bottom and your working on Ntox very early, cal/mag if you use it will put you there in the first 2 weeks of flower. If they are over fed then will bet you Ph is off also. Compounded your growing in a tray and if water stands in there for any length of time (1 or 2 hours) you are going to end up chaseing your tail and your on the yellow brick road already. If your showing red vains on the stems is eather PH lock out or you need Mag. You are walking on a tight rope your options are forward or back or can you fly. Your right here at the start and they look ok almost good but not for much longer.
What questions
feeding?
PH?
Media?
how often do you water?
what is your nutrients and what is the ppm of your mix.
Humidity ?
Grow temperature.?
From your pictures I see some thing that make me wonder how they look as good as they do.
The don'ts I see.
Leavening any water standing in a catch basen is very bad Idea. The H2O evaporates out and in time you will make a concentrated mess the H2O evaporates and what you have is the beginning of a host of problems.

Want help need the info above and pictures that show the whole plant and from up higher and one from down low looking up.
Trim out some of the lower growth and moderate the plant to plant contact on the top 25% of the plant no contact.
Plants are stupid but they are predictable and as they grow they are looking for room if they cant find the room to grow you have to fake them out trim the bottom which never produces anything worth smoken. You should have air movement on the order of the leaves moving lightly. I run my fans at the trim level and on low.
I have no clue why you think I leave them sitting in runoff... where did this come from?

Are you saying if I use cal/mag within first 2 weeks of flower I will get N toxicity? They are in coco and I use RO water.. I have been encountering overfeeding on my first 2 grows 2nd of which I'm just finishing now .. I think I will have better luck in this area for my 3rd..
 
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Trentski420

Trentski420

It was a mother that I'm going to flower didn't end up even taking that many clones but she's getting too big flowering her in a few weeks
 
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PharmHand

I have no clue why you think I leave them sitting in runoff... where did this come from?

Are you saying if I use cal/mag within first 2 weeks of flower I will get N toxicity? They are in coco and I use RO water.. I have been encountering overfeeding on my first 2 grows 2nd of which I'm just finishing now .. I think I will have better luck in this area for my 3rd..
Some cal mags have stupid amounts of N like 4-0-0 just check the N to Cal ratio and avoid the carbonates which raise your ph over time. The botanicare one is 2-0-0, nitrate based and it's cheap. Ag stores have separate cal and mag products for even cheaper then you can agjust ratios accordingly anywhere from 3:1 to 6:1 cal to mag depending on strain and stage of growth. I use RO too and bring it up to about 150ppm(.5 scale) with calmag as per jackmayoffer then add my base. Just watch that N some plants don't need much to start hooking.... Dudes point about lowlit areas of plant needing less nutes showing toxicity first is bang on
 
hermit186

hermit186

The picture are not very good looked like that to me sorry and the plants look like wet feet could be a part of there problem but good luck. Why I think that. started growing before the 1st Woodstock
 
Trentski420

Trentski420

This is a problem for you because!? Wtf do you think these forums are for? Post somewhere someone wants to hear what you have to say
 
Toaster79

Toaster79

This is a problem for you because!? Wtf do you think these forums are for? Post somewhere someone wants to hear what you have to say
Look how many posts you have and that's what you have to say!? Get a fucking life bud
And this is exactly what I'm getting at. Use the fucking search function and read up on your fucking problem. There's tons of same fucking threads asking same fucking questions getting same fucking answers all over again because people are to fucking lazy to use thee fucking search function or even better get to the fucking FAQ section that has been a bitch to put together just to get a simple fucking answer that has been answered million fucking times before.

Did I use the F word enough for the search function?
 
EventHorizan

EventHorizan

And this is exactly what I'm getting at. Use the fucking search function and read up on your fucking problem. There's tons of same fucking threads asking same fucking questions getting same fucking answers all over again because people are to fucking lazy to use thee fucking search function or even better get to the fucking FAQ section that has been a bitch to put together just to get a simple fucking answer that has been answered million fucking times before.

Did I use the F word enough for the search function?
ok gentelman... He is a newbie,, toaster, and while he lacks what almost all newbies lack, still you know we open the doors for everyone, even tho i totally agree....
As for op, ive said itonce ive said it a million times... These guys want to work with you, not for you.... Start a thread called,,, IM A FUCKING NEWB, HELP ME.... And then post every day and pathetic ppl such as myself will watch over your shoulder, and if you dont come off as a moron,maybe throw a like up here and there, and soon a comment, and then it will all start coming together... Anyway there is an old saying... Dont bite this dick that fucks you baby......
 
Trentski420

Trentski420

And this is exactly what I'm getting at. Use the fucking search function and read up on your fucking problem. There's tons of same fucking threads asking same fucking questions getting same fucking answers all over again because people are to fucking lazy to use thee fucking search function or even better get to the fucking FAQ section that has been a bitch to put together just to get a simple fucking answer that has been answered million fucking times before.

Did I use the F word enough for the search function?
Why are you here though?... ya you need a life... you just troll around for threads that bother you? Sad sad existence... if you think Im going to type curling/folding leaves and Instantly find what ails my plants than your a fucking retard... seriously get a moderator to tell me the exact same thing cause I may listen than but your goofy ass doesn't mean shit me
 
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Toaster79

Toaster79

Sad sad e if you think Im going to type curling/folding leaves and Instantly find what ails my plants than your a fucking retard... seriously get a moderator to tell me the exact same thing cause I may listen than but your goofy ass doesn't mean shit me
That's exactly my problem with spoiled kids like you expecting getting served everything on a silver plate just because you exist. Do your homework, read, educate yourself. If you even tried you wouldn't be playing million questions. And on top of that you've got serious attitude problem.
 
EventHorizan

EventHorizan

Why are you here though?... ya you need a life... you just troll around for threads that bother you? Sad sad existence... if you think Im going to type curling/folding leaves and Instantly find what ails my plants than your a fucking retard... seriously get a moderator to tell me the exact same thing cause I may listen than but your goofy ass doesn't mean shit me
That's exactly my problem with spoiled kids like you expecting getting served everything on a silver plate just because you exist. Do your homework, read, educate yourself. If you even tried you wouldn't be playing million questions. And on top of that you've got serious attitude problem.
well im not a mod, but i am a justice of the peace (PIPE) :)
Its Sunday,, we all just smoke and chill around here on Sunday....
Ok i am gonna end this thread tho if we dont get back on track...
Toast, if you dont like the guy, and you have made your point, then prob be a good thing to just leave him alone. You know that ppl that dont do their homework will get left by the wayside.. So unless u got something encouraging, maybe be best for your rep, to just let it go..

As for Trent, brother a lot of guys come here and they just want spoonfed the answers, and honestly thats not possible.. Look at it like this... Before you ever had the chance to get knee deep in some good pussy, you had no idea what to do.. Ya i could prob explain how it works, but it took practice before you became a porn star, ye follow me?
And then you got guys like Toast, and me, and many many ppl here that have spent hr, days, months, years, and even decades researching, trial and errors, thousands of dollars, and they feel slighted when some snow flake shows up and wants it all just handed to them. Im sure you understand. And im not saying thats you, but i am saying that your guilty untill you prove yourself innocent. We also like to get to know a member a little. Never know if someone is leo...
Then you got the bat shit crazy ones every now and then. You got the ones that will argue a sign painted red. You got ones that cant follow directions. You got every type of person that visits here. Not everybody like just anybody...

So my advice for you is, start one more thread and call it..
Trents Guerrilla grow(1st grow) All advice welcome..
And then start off by saying some things about yourself and your setup. What strains your gonna run and any questions you may need an answer for.. And everyday posts pics and update us... It took almost 3 weeks and me almost killing 1 of the 3 i started befor someone answered... That was less than a year ago... I have harvested over 5 #s since then....
Ok so i hope this ends the back and forth and moves this in a positive direction for all

Good luck Trent
 
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