Damien's Photo Grow: Malawi X Panama Edition

[Funk junky]

I had a book my lazy partner I was working with loaned it to an oxygen thief.
I went crazy when police raided him and took book. If I weren’t sure I would reference book.
Luckily I had been studying it for years.
But couldn’t memorise the lot so omitted some indoor info as applicable.
Reason I went mad was I was just starting up indoor, but then that’s when started lurking on forums so not all bad.

 

[PlumberSoCal]

I had a book my lazy partner I was working with loaned it to an oxygen thief.
I went crazy when police raided him and took book. If I weren’t sure I would reference book.
Luckily I had been studying it for years.
But couldn’t memorise the lot so omitted some indoor info as applicable.
Reason I went mad was I was just starting up indoor, but then that’s when started lurking on forums so not all bad.

I picked up a copy of Ed's book back in 77 and read it cover to cover many times before passing it on. Even though I've got a Kendall I'm old and still prefer books but being here, with all the experimentation going on in real time is pretty awesome.

 

[Funk junky]

Book rule no substitute

 

[Funk junky]

Had Cervantes bible

 

[Jimster]

YOU should write a book. Love every response of yours I've read here.

"Smothering mother" nails it. Almost every problem we hear about is caused by just that, except insects. Although causing problems by over watering/fertilizing/stressing will allow insects to do more damage.

Most successful growers I've talked to through the years all say the same thing, "Leave 'em the F... alone." They're right.

When we start out we've usually heard so many things we don't know where to begin. Try different things, find one that seems to work and stick with it. You can always try this or that on one plant and see what happens.

I think I still have my original copy of Ed Rosenthal's first book on growing somewhere, from the 70's. Looking back, there was NO internet and getting any kind of info was almost impossible. Ed's book was falling apart from daily readings I made, and made about every mistake that you could make. Looking back at the early book, it was sort of a "Fly by the seat of the pants" book for growing, since he also didn't have the knowledge that is available on this site. Things have come a LONG way.
Ed's book helped a lot in laying out the basics for growing, but didn't address much else. The guy who showed me how to grow with a HID light was like a Masonic Grand Master, with all sorts of rituals and things that he insisted on doing... he was sort of strange but his knowledge and his buds were phenomenal. In the town where he grew, the police station was on the ground floor and basement of an old 5-6 story building, with the top floors not being actively used and vacant for decades. Access to the top floors was controlled by a single security door (Before building codes, obviously). He grew on the top floor in a room inside another room, with ventilation going outside the building. He grew there for years before the cops got a grant to renovate the building. Fun was over, but looking back, it was like the wild west with nobody trusting anyone for fear of the "Man" catching you doing something wrong.

 

[Funk junky]

Thing is that’s what got us networking.
Every silver lining has a touch of gray hey.
In this life if you’re ever gonna see a perfect day it will be so tranquil it will pass you by. Bad is a good measure for what’s good.
Anyone remember film demolition man? It made a good point?

 

[Funk junky]

What what I learned while reading was and actually realised, is indoor even though you can control it and fend of the elements.
I found at least one thing that you couldn’t fix. Can’t remember the specifics but it basically told me they like this, then later somewhere else it told me they love that.
But you had to choose because you couldn’t do both indoor. Can’t remember what it was but I’d think maybe temps and humidity based maybe?
But not sure was many years ago but it’s hard to have high humidity and low temperatures. Don’t actually think that was it though, just remember comparing a chapter in general care to the indoor section and it was contradictory.
Please don’t make me prove this, like no photos it didn’t happen.
I know it’s there in book and kept flipping between both sections thinking shit you have to choose here cause can’t do both.
Maybe there was a solution?
But was not on forums at time to query it.
Our weather here means outdoor is hard. You have to choose certain strains which are ripe end of September or depending on weather, and of course your surrounding environment 2 week October is possible.
There is wriggle room though my friends who could grow in there back yards enjoyed more of a micro climate.
I was always handcuffed as needed surrounding foliage as camouflage which doesn’t do any favours if late flower you get a lot of rain.
Damn we’re so more densely populated here I had to box clever, look for spots that man would just have no interest in entering. A lot of the time this was just the other side of main roads they would put rows of trees down then there was normally a ten to 12 foot corridor then a fence to stop wildlife like deer wandering into the road, sometimes I would spend hours cutting little cut throughs through brambles good way of not creating visable paths to your grow spots after frequent visits

 

[damien50]

Day 53 - 8th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

Lowered my lights back down. Just didn't like them so high. Not having any real issues since cutting the ppms down. Not losing a bunch of leaves anymore either. Not really much going on.

Mothers and clones in the 5 gallon buckets are thriving. Yeah I just don't have much going on right now.

Pictures though. Thanks to the old guys contributing on here, I don't mind at all, carry on lol.

Bud shots from all 6 phenos.

 

[damien50]

Day 56 - 9th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

10.5/13.5

Getting some nice red pistils. I don't have much going on besides #3 fattening up and changing the light schedule to 10.5/13.5. Pictures though.

 

[Rikismom420]

I picked up a copy of Ed's book back in 77 and read it cover to cover many times before passing it on. Even though I've got a Kendall I'm old and still prefer books but being here, with all the experimentation going on in real time is pretty awesome.

Child’s garden of grass was my first weed book...don’t remember what was in it,, been about 45 years ago lol

 

[Jimster]

Day 56 - 9th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

10.5/13.5

Getting some nice red pistils. I don't have much going on besides #3 fattening up and changing the light schedule to 10.5/13.5. Pictures though.

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I haven't shown any updates from my Malawi project, now in 6th week of flowering. These are different than just about ANY strain that I've grown, Sativa, Indica, or otherwise. They are currently about 6.5 ft tall split into 4 main colas. What is the most unusual about them is the main stems. They are a lot like bamboo canes, very hard and stiff. They are very resistant to being trained and aren't too bushy, but tower over the others.
If I can get photos, I will. I can't believe how large they have become in 6 weeks, and they are now beginning to grow above the level of the light. I'll try to get some photos, eventually.

 

[Rikismom420]

I haven't shown any updates from my Malawi project, now in 6th week of flowering. These are different than just about ANY strain that I've grown, Sativa, Indica, or otherwise. They are currently about 6.5 ft tall split into 4 main colas. What is the most unusual about them is the main stems. They are a lot like bamboo canes, very hard and stiff. They are very resistant to being trained and aren't too bushy, but tower over the others.
If I can get photos, I will. I can't believe how large they have become in 6 weeks, and they are now beginning to grow above the level of the light. I'll try to get some photos, eventually.

Wow love to see those pics.

 

[Jimster]

Day 56 - 9th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

10.5/13.5

Getting some nice red pistils. I don't have much going on besides #3 fattening up and changing the light schedule to 10.5/13.5. Pictures though.

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Here are the latest pics at 6 weeks. Regular, closeup, and a distance shot. I wish they grew a little bushier, but perhaps I can still spread these out a little after the others make room for it!

 

[Jimster]

Here are the latest pics at 6 weeks. Regular, closeup, and a distance shot. I wish they grew a little bushier, but perhaps I can still spread these out a little after the others make room for it!

Malawi at 6 weeks flowering. Promix in 5 gallon bucket w/ 20% composted manure, 1 cup wood ashes, Jacks 20-20-20 (and now Jacks blooming fertilizer). No Ph checking, no TDS meters, no potions or powders other than 1 dose Tria. This is just to show that expensive stuff isn't needed for good results.

 

[damien50]

Day 59 - 8th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

Not much going on again. Mothers and clones are doing great.

@Jimster they look good. They reached 6f right?

 

[Jimster]

Day 59 - 8th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

Not much going on again. Mothers and clones are doing great.

@Jimster they look good. They reached 6f right?

Yes, they are probably around 6.5 ft at the tallest. They are darker green than most of my others... I can't wait to see what these are going to look like when they finish. They are starting to thicken up and I'm hoping that they don't get too much taller. I would love to try these outdoors, but my success outdoors is dismal. At this poit I'm collecting a bunch of different strains that I've wanted to try, after using mostly the same strain for decades. Don't get me wrong... I love these old strains, I just have enough to last me for a while and I'm going to investigate some Indica strains for a while.
Taking a walk down the garden path....

 

[Funk junky]

Yeah think you got this one nailed bro. My friend South Africa did have a look said they look nice.
He’s that busy at mo that he’s not doing much on the forums at mo.

 

[Rikismom420]

Yeah think you got this one nailed bro. My friend South Africa did have a look said they look nice.
He’s that busy at mo that he’s not doing much on the forums at mo.

Day 59 - 8th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 640ppm/5.9 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

78-84f Leaf Surface Temp - Night Time Temps 62-68f

60-65% RH

4" Light Height

Not much going on again. Mothers and clones are doing great.

@Jimster they look good. They reached 6f right?

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Hi there, so all these are auto flower and if they all are how many plants do u have, my little buds are just now popping up on my 3 plants, so I have auto flower seeds in fridge,do you think I need to bring them to room temp before potting them thought I might just plant the inside in the sun warmth and leave for a week. Have my friend watching my three babies , what is your take on this. Thx again
Happy growing

 

[PlumberSoCal]

Hi there, so all these are auto flower and if they all are how many plants do u have, my little buds are just now popping up on my 3 plants, so I have auto flower seeds in fridge,do you think I need to bring them to room temp before potting them thought I might just plant the inside in the sun warmth and leave for a week. Have my friend watching my three babies , what is your take on this. Thx again
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Looks to me like you're killing it.
Seeds should be fine if you thaw 'em out or not. Get 'em in the ground, time is right!

 

[Funk junky]

Hi there, so all these are auto flower and if they all are how many plants do u have, my little buds are just now popping up on my 3 plants, so I have auto flower seeds in fridge,do you think I need to bring them to room temp before potting them thought I might just plant the inside in the sun warmth and leave for a week. Have my friend watching my three babies , what is your take on this. Thx again
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Should be fine straight out of fridge. I like to soak in glass for 12- 24 hours to soften shell ( if they sink time to remove from glass) then I use antiseptic wipes on a plate, mostian so damp pour excess water off but do not let dry out.
Then when I get first signs tap root is cracking out of the pointy end of seed, I put in pot tap root pointing down wards, I leave soil at least an inch from top of pots then wrap cling film over top of pot. Plant your seeds no deeper than the width of seed then scuff a little loose soil over top only just cover.
We can add more soil later as the soil will contract and you can add soil right up to the cotyledons ( those little round leaves although I leave space) the cling film gets removed when seedlings have Brocken out.
Every now and then the protective layer inside of seed will not free the cotyledons, in this case gently break seal with stanly knife blade or scalpel