Earth Juice Bloom Master

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true grit

true grit

Has anyone used the soluble Earth Juice Bloom Master 0-50-30? Says derived from organic sources (marine fossilized bird guana, bone beal), listed under organics bloom boosters or organic hydro on most sites but is right up there with MOAB. Found some organic nutes I would like to try in coco and was lookin at some MOAB like bloom boosters and found this...anyone given it a go? Just curious, as I don't feel like ditching the Hammerhead/MOAB combo but always miss some of that organic twang.
 
sky high

sky high

I'm gonna call suspect here. I'm trying to find an actual pic of the label that I can read (everything is too small) to see WTF is going on..... but what i do see is that they say this is a water soluble plant food >with< marine based/guano products....

gonna be some chems in there....and IMO....not "organic". Not sure if there would even be time for the marine based/guano based ferts in the mix to breakdown/work on most strains if this is a 6th-7th week kinda application...

WA state page: http://agr.wa.gov/PestFert/Fertilizers/FertDB/prodinfo.aspx?pname=4027

purty label tho..... ;-) (what's that fine print say under the N-P-K analysis? Anyone have a bag?)

s h
 
true grit

true grit

Yeah I can't find any closer pics or application directions. Truthfully even if its not full organic but is same rates as MOAB almost that puts me one step closer to my goal of organics in coco. Like last time the big issues was teh lack of late plump that the hammerhead/moab gives. There are some decent liquid organic pk boosts but nothing like the big guns...

heres a link to product page-
http://www.hydro-organics.com/home/index.php?productID=695

Probably right SH, but who knows mr ye of little faith :giggle lol.

sent em an email with more pointed questions...ill post it up when i get answers.m
 
sky high

sky high

Little faith..in this 'industry" for sho, bro. I spent almost 4 years livin' it daily and checking out all the claims..... and that's why I'm callin' suspect on this one. Never seen something so HOT be organic.... but hey....if my ASSumptions are wrong I'll certainly admit it and be HAPPY someone really wired a high-pow organic formula and didn't just spend some serious $$$ on graphic design and more cutesy/misleading labelling....... uhumm...burp...fart...

can't wait to hear what they have to say

s h
 
true grit

true grit

Heres what I got in response so far, i already emailed back a few more ?'s....


EJ:
There is no 100% organic high NPK nutrients, especially 100% water soluble nutrients.
Organics often much more than just high NPK percentages but getting back to Bloom Master.

Fast release.

Bloom Master is the only high NPK soluble powder that contains Earth Juice "Exclusive" solution grade organics: fossilized marinebird guano, steamed bone meal and seaweed along with organic micro buffers.

Bloom Master™ is a concentrated water-soluble bud & bloom plant food supplement
designed to increase the production of blooms, essential oils, resins and fragrances
of flowering and fruiting plants.

To be used as part of a complete fertilizer program. Caution: Please use carefully for
a little goes a long way and too much can be non-beneficial.

Add To Water & Stir Until Completely Dissolved.
BLOOM MASTER USAGE CHART: For use as a bloom plant food supplement
General use rates at tsp (teaspoons) per U.S. Gallon of water (or solution).
• Rates may be adjusted to individual needs.

Teaspoons per gallon
Vegetative Recovery system from 0 - 1/4 tsp. Non recovery 0 -1/8 tsp
Flowering Recovery 1/2 tsp. No-Recovery 1/4 tsp
Ripening Recovery 1/4 tsp. Non-Recovery 1/8 tsp

Use during the budding through flowering phase.

If you are hand-feeding a planting mix medium I would suggest the following organic options;
Earth Juice Bloom & Catalyst
Earth Juice Bloom from 1/2 - 1 Tablespoon per gallon
Earth Juice Catalyst start at 1/4 teaspoon and finish at 1 tablespoon per gallon
Please see the Earth Juice Charts at www.hydro-organics.com for other use rate recommendations
See the many other Earth Juice Organic options such as Big Bloomin Guano, etc.
 
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norcal

Bump. Did any1 ever try this out? I am about to switch back from H&G to try Earth Juice out again and I am really curious about adding this product too the line. I am sure it is similar to Shooting Powder/Moab but I am not running Earth Juice because it is 'organic'. I really love their products and it has been the 1 nutrient line I have ran that has even came close to House and Garden. I got my answer though apparently it is meant to be ran with their Original line.
 
true grit

true grit

Never got around to trying, couldn't find it local. Just messed around with base, HPK, and nirvana application to get the same boost i was from MOAB combo.
 
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norcal

Oh alright. If I try it out I will be sure to be back in a couple of months to let some people if you/they are still interested in the results.Ill still be using Shooting Powder so that should be a good comparison.
 
dorjewright

dorjewright

Very interested in this topic. I've been using the EJ line to make aac teas in soil for a while now. I use the advanced plus feeding schedule but this grow like to add some of the other products like Big Blooming Guano, Bloom Master etc.
A question: what is meant by "recovery", non recovery, is that a hydro term?
 
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Mauihaole

Very interested in this topic. I've been using the EJ line to make aac teas in soil for a while now. I use the advanced plus feeding schedule but this grow like to add some of the other products like Big Blooming Guano, Bloom Master etc.
A question: what is meant by "recovery", non recovery, is that a hydro term?
Nice to hear someone is currently using the advanced plus chart this is my 1st run with it I am outdoors in Roots orgainc in Hi. any seguestion advice would be great. Thank you. Also on the organic thing I emailed them some time back about witch products were 100% organic. He couldnt give me a streight answer but basicly said omri allows cirtain synthetic p an k numbers yet be labeled organic. Ill look up the reply post it if it might help anyone
 
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Mauihaole

Hello Sir

For starters the NOP (National Organic Program), which are the rules USDA applies for regulating what can be termed organic , can be somewhat difficult to understand. For example: Liquid Fish fertilizers are allowed to use and contain two synthetic ingredients synthetic phosphoric acid (P) and potassium hydroxide (K) which no other protein base fertilizer such as blood meal, alfalfa meal, etc are not allowed to use or contain ?. So if you are currently using liquid fish fertilizers you should be comfortable with using our Organic based products.

All of our fertilizers can be used for Indoor and Outdoor gardening.
Some can only be applied by hand feeding others can be applied by both hand feeding and hydroponic /autodosers.

All of our fertilizers, supplements, media are compatible and can be used together.

Products with Mycorrhizae cannot be allowed into Hawaii. Please check to see what other products
are not allowed in HI

Here's one of the most "tried and true" (Worldwide since 1991) Natural - Organic recommendations for hand feeding outdoor plants that will provide dynamic results without the worry of fertilizer burning or
salt build up. Long Time Top Favorite that Champion results
1. Container: Aerobags
2. Medium; Amazon Bloom
3. Fertilizers: Earth Juice Grow & Earth Juice Bloom Original Formulas
Optional
4. Earth Juice Catalyst
5. Earth Juice MicroBlast
6. Earth Juice Meta-K

Natural-Organic
Verde Fire Grow & Bloom (Most versatile)
Rainbow Mix Grow & Bloom (Xtremely Popular)
Primal Harvest (Xtremely Popular)
Bat Guano Grow
Volcano Bat
Big Bloomin Guano
Hydro Spice Grow & Bloom

Organic based
Hi-Brix Grow & Bloom
Sugar Peak (Very Popular)
Sweet & Heavy

With Organics
SeaBlast (Xtremely Popular)
Bloom Master

Primarily synthetic containing small amount natural ingredients
Elements (Xtremely Popular)


Here's a couple of videos

Sugar Peak


World's Largest Hydroponic Ficus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_msw_gBv_cw

RootStock
Organic natural cloning of indoor and outdoor plants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTwl_FSHB
 
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Mauihaole

Hello Sir

For starters the NOP (National Organic Program), which are the rules USDA applies for regulating what can be termed organic , can be somewhat difficult to understand. For example: Liquid Fish fertilizers are allowed to use and contain two synthetic ingredients synthetic phosphoric acid (P) and potassium hydroxide (K) which no other protein base fertilizer such as blood meal, alfalfa meal, etc are not allowed to use or contain ?. So if you are currently using liquid fish fertilizers you should be comfortable with using our Organic based products.

All of our fertilizers can be used for Indoor and Outdoor gardening.
Some can only be applied by hand feeding others can be applied by both hand feeding and hydroponic /autodosers.

All of our fertilizers, supplements, media are compatible and can be used together.

Products with Mycorrhizae cannot be allowed into Hawaii. Please check to see what other products
are not allowed in HI

Here's one of the most "tried and true" (Worldwide since 1991) Natural - Organic recommendations for hand feeding outdoor plants that will provide dynamic results without the worry of fertilizer burning or
salt build up. Long Time Top Favorite that Champion results
1. Container: Aerobags
2. Medium; Amazon Bloom
3. Fertilizers: Earth Juice Grow & Earth Juice Bloom Original Formulas
Optional
4. Earth Juice Catalyst
5. Earth Juice MicroBlast
6. Earth Juice Meta-K

Natural-Organic
Verde Fire Grow & Bloom (Most versatile)
Rainbow Mix Grow & Bloom (Xtremely Popular)
Primal Harvest (Xtremely Popular)
Bat Guano Grow
Volcano Bat
Big Bloomin Guano
Hydro Spice Grow & Bloom

Organic based
Hi-Brix Grow & Bloom
Sugar Peak (Very Popular)
Sweet & Heavy

With Organics
SeaBlast (Xtremely Popular)
Bloom Master

Primarily synthetic containing small amount natural ingredients
Elements (Xtremely Popular)


Here's a couple of videos

Sugar Peak


World's Largest Hydroponic Ficus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_msw_gBv_cw

RootStock
Organic natural cloning of indoor and outdoor plants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTwl_FSHB
This is the reply I was sent when I asked witch products were 100% organic noticed he still didnt say witch was if any were
 
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Genesofgreen

Earth Juice..

Has anyone used the soluble Earth Juice Bloom Master 0-50-30? Says derived from organic sources (marine fossilized bird guana, bone beal), listed under organics bloom boosters or organic hydro on most sites but is right up there with MOAB. Found some organic nutes I would like to try in coco and was lookin at some MOAB like bloom boosters and found this...anyone given it a go? Just curious, as I don't feel like ditching the Hammerhead/MOAB combo but always miss some of that organic twang.
I'm a noob to the farm, so for what my opinion's worth, here it is. I have run the full line of EJ products a number of times and the only thing I'm truly sold on is their Catalyst. I use it in my tea. As for the remaining components in their line, I'd give them a 6/10. With the use of EJ, (imo) the PH seems to be all over the place which makes for too much work. I keep it simple and work smart. Let me mention their Microblast, too. Nice product, but again, I'm unsure of the PH inconsistencies. Hope this helps you somewhat...if not, I gave it my best shot. Peace n luv GOG
 
dorjewright

dorjewright

EJ works great for me. Buffers the high ph spring water (ph 7+). Run off is 6 +/- inspite of the ph of the mix being 5-.
Anyone know where I can get big blooming guano and the bloom master online?
 
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anti

I like this stuff a lot, I use CNS17 as my base and use this bloom master -50-30 along with awesome blossoms and bloombastic and get beautiful flowers
 
greenboot

greenboot

Bump. Did any1 ever try this out? I am about to switch back from H&G to try Earth Juice out again and I am really curious about adding this product too the line. I am sure it is similar to Shooting Powder/Moab but I am not running Earth Juice because it is 'organic'. I really love their products and it has been the 1 nutrient line I have ran that has even came close to House and Garden. I got my answer though apparently it is meant to be ran with their Original line.
i tried it and now i'm a little frustrated that the lady at my local shop did',nt order my next batch like i asked her to do.. but i used it along with the earth juice microblast, and silica, in order to organically replace my gh cha ching bloom booster.. i was overly pleased with my results… as for hot organics,, guano and bone meal are are both considered (hot organics),.
 
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Mauihaole

Besides making my own super soil and teas with caps benes I found Rainbow mix an Amazing line from EJ the veg & bloom very simple I use at a lower then suggested as I use other top dressings guano s work great hand and hand but if you want a noticeable diffrance in size smell taste the bloom I swear 5 days after applying it bam the thick long hairs the plumpness the aroma the oil production all just goes nuts its one of my never go without plus it has benes and humic acid also langdamite 0-0-22 great too for top dress in helping plump and harden your nuggs I use a lot but my system is as organic as I can make it and my growing style or wte we call our own ways works great for me. and the 2 week flush with all the top dress 1st wk is like another explosive bang to the point Ive thought I started flushing too early. If this helps 1 person then I am happy make sure you blend it very very well at least two inches deep if your roots allow or top with more soil/casting peatmoss wte it does not mix easily anoter reason its nice to put in the transplant holes or layer it if your TP is timed with application time . Aloha
 
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