End of flower trouble, please help!

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This is my first grow and I started 2 auto seeds, do-si-do and blueberry kush. It’s been around 16-17 weeks (no idea why it’s taking so long) and the blueberry kush is about ready to harvest but I’m having some trouble with the do-si-do. The leaves look to be dying (yellowing w/ brown edges) and I know that’s expected at the end but the buds keep putting out white hairs and some fox tails. It seems my plant is dying before the buds are ripened! The leaves in the lower middle of the plant seems to be healthier and I’m not sure if it’s because they get less light or if thats just the new growth and the plant is using up storage from older growth first.
A few weeks ago I noticed my runoff ph was a little high (7) so I did a flush with lower ph water and managed to get it down to 6.5 and 400ppm. I started feeding again after a week but no signs of improvement. I’ve been carefully plucking dead leaves here and there and there aren’t many left. I don’t know how she will have the energy to get those buds to ripen.

Soil is the fox farm happy frog and ocean forest mixed in fabric pots. Feeding with fox farm trio + cha-ching, cal-mag, and bud candy adjusted to 6.5 ph and measuring around 1500ppm when feeding. I keep temps around 73 and humidity in low 40s so VPD is steady 1.5. I have 2 mars ts600s and I recently set up the adlite bundle along side them. Also have some 10 watt strips/bulbs along the side’s wherever upper buds were shadowing the lowers. I didn’t train early enough and have a main cola that’s getting too much light (1300 ppfd) but the rest of the plant is getting around 600-900ppfd so I don’t want to raise the light any more unless it’s necessary.

I’m really at a loss here. I did a full strength feed about a week after flushing with around 1500ppm and run off measured 1100ppm. Plain water for a week then another feed. Am I over feeding? I figured after I flushed there was nothing left so I should give them plenty to make up for whatever lockout was happening. When I water a day after feeding the runoff has around 800-900ppm so I know they are using some of the nutrients. I’m open to any and all suggestions here.

*The problem child do-si-do is the big one on the left. BBK is on the right and probably ready to chop. I can add some trichome pics if it will help.
 
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1 vote for over feeding.

1 vote for too much lighting.

1500 feed is a lot feed.

1300 ppfd is a lot of light.

Too much feed and too much light can continue bloom longer then it. Should be.

But honestly they look great. Most likely you have mainly cloudy tricones. You could really chop it at anytime and will be good smoke.

Fixing it at this stage probably wouldn't be suggested. You pretty much done.

Fixing it would require a heavy flush 5-10 gallons, this would cause issues because a heavy flush will run out all nutes. With the lack of nutes buds would become less dense for recovery. Reducing the light would also make buds less dense, you can reduce it a little but I wouldn't suggest a lot. You don't really have enough time left to fix and have her recover as you would lose more leaves in the process. Then when finished buds would be more fluffy less dense. (No one wants that)

I would just give water and go as long as you can. Or just verify most tricones are cloudy chop dry smoke.
 
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1 Stimme für Überfütterung.

1 Stimme für zu viel Beleuchtung.

1500 Futter ist viel Futter.

1300 ppfd ist viel Licht.

Zu viel Dünger und zu viel Licht können die Blüte länger anhalten lassen als sie sollte.

Aber ehrlich, sie sehen toll aus. Höchstwahrscheinlich haben Sie hauptsächlich trübe Tricones. Sie könnten es wirklich jederzeit zerhacken und es wird guter Rauch sein.

Eine Reparatur in diesem Stadium ist wahrscheinlich nicht empfehlenswert. Sie sind so gut wie fertig.

Um das Problem zu beheben, wäre eine kräftige Spülung mit 5-10 Gallonen erforderlich. Dies würde Probleme verursachen, da bei einer kräftigen Spülung alle Nährstoffe verbraucht werden. Durch den Mangel an Nährstoffen würden die Blütenknospen weniger dicht und könnten sich nicht erholen. Eine Verringerung des Lichts würde die Blütenknospen ebenfalls weniger dicht machen. Sie können es ein wenig reduzieren, aber ich würde nicht viel empfehlen. Sie haben nicht wirklich genug Zeit, um sie zu reparieren und sich erholen zu lassen, da Sie dabei mehr Blätter verlieren würden. Wenn sie fertig sind, wären die Blütenknospen dann flauschiger und weniger dicht. (Das will niemand)

Ich würde einfach Wasser geben und so lange weitermachen, wie Sie können. Oder überprüfen Sie einfach, ob die meisten Tricones trüber, trockener Rauch sind.
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ch dem Spülen zu schnell zu hoch dosierte „Stress-Schock“-Situation
 
nronio91

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1 vote for over feeding.

1 vote for too much lighting.

1500 feed is a lot feed.

1300 ppfd is a lot of light.

Too much feed and too much light can continue bloom longer then it. Should be.

But honestly they look great. Most likely you have mainly cloudy tricones. You could really chop it at anytime and will be good smoke.

Fixing it at this stage probably wouldn't be suggested. You pretty much done.

Fixing it would require a heavy flush 5-10 gallons, this would cause issues because a heavy flush will run out all nutes. With the lack of nutes buds would become less dense for recovery. Reducing the light would also make buds less dense, you can reduce it a little but I wouldn't suggest a lot. You don't really have enough time left to fix and have her recover as you would lose more leaves in the process. Then when finished buds would be more fluffy less dense. (No one wants that)

I would just give water and go as long as you can. Or just verify most tricones are cloudy chop dry smoke.
Thanks for the reply! I figured the light was too much but was in battle of too much on parts and not enough on other because I didn’t train properly in the earlier stages. I also had a feeling my feeding wasn’t right. I filled the fox farm schedule to a T and was getting higher ppm than what it said I should have. Their schedule didn’t include the cal-mag or bud candy and my tap water has 200ish ppm so I’m not sure if that would add up to make for such a high feed measurement.

I’m probably going to chop the BBK today as it looks ready as it going to be. Might hold off longer on the do-si-do and see if the white hairs stop and turn to orange. Here’s some trichome pics. Lots of milky, some amber, some clear.
 
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You can always give it another week, but as this is your first grow. You probably don't got no weed. Future grows when you have weed let them go a little longer so you can see the difference, but I'm sure that shit going to be fire just as it is.

Good job on the grow. Looks really good. Next time try staying little lighter on the nutes and a little lighter on the light see how it goes.
 
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You can always give it another week, but as this is your first grow. You probably don't got no weed. Future grows when you have weed let them go a little longer so you can see the difference, but I'm sure that shit going to be fire just as it is.

Good job on the grow. Looks really good. Next time try staying little lighter on the nutes and a little lighter on the light see how it goes.
Thanks dude, I appreciate it. Im planning on chopping the BBK when I get home today. I want to wait a little longer on the DSD and see if I can get more orange pistils and amber trichs. She is still drinking enough for me to have to water daily so must be still doing some growing/ripening right?
I set my dry tent up over the weekend and ran everything overnight to test and see if I could stabilize optimum temps/humidity. Was able to keep temp in low 60s. Humidity was around 35% but that's with nothing in it. I'm sure once there's fresh bud hanging it will be closer to 60% RH. I can always increase humidity if needed.
Should I chop the whole plant and hang or cut the branches and hang them?
 
Oldchucky

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If you had of mind to, I think you can do partial harvest indoors! Boy, she is a fox taling fool! Good luck!
 
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