Feminized Vs. Normal Seeds

[h4ppyf4rmer]

just curious, why would anyone use normal seeds instead of feminized seeds?

In the past I've only bought feminized seeds for obvious reasons but I've often wondered why people buy regular seeds with the 35% chance to get a male.
Planning on producing more seeds?
cheaper seeds?
can't get feminized seeds in a particular strain?

 

[TheRemer]

just curious, why would anyone use normal seeds instead of feminized seeds?

In the past I've only bought feminized seeds for obvious reasons but I've often wondered why people buy regular seeds with the 35% chance to get a male.
Planning on producing more seeds?
cheaper seeds?
can't get feminized seeds in a particular strain?

I havnt had many males. But the ones i do get i collect the pollen. I got a cut of black indica i wanna keep so i dosed her with some pollen. Got some seeds on my way. Fems are nice cus you can bust 100% girls. But i do like the regs i think.

 

[jumpincactus]

Well here comes a 500 page thread omg you really didnt bring that up did you. :)

I'm going to move your thread to the breeders forum. Hope you dont mind. More appropriate place to get some answers.

 

[Monster762]

just curious, why would anyone use normal seeds instead of feminized seeds?

In the past I've only bought feminized seeds for obvious reasons but I've often wondered why people buy regular seeds with the 35% chance to get a male.
Planning on producing more seeds?
cheaper seeds?
can't get feminized seeds in a particular strain?

All of the above.

 

[Organikz]

Haha @jumpincactus

I'll open up. Most feminized seeds are made by applying colloidal silver to a female plant. Here's the issue. A plant that has 0 potential to turn hermaphrodite will not provide seeds like this. So you see there is genetic potential to becoming a hermaphrodite.

This is my best understanding.

 

[Organikz]

Think XX XY XXY. A true female is XX.

 

[ROCKTOTO]

To get a prize male 4 breeding and personally I think reg seeds grow with more vigor.

 

[KillerSativa]

The way I look at feminized seeds, simply put they are hermaphrodites in disguise. Yes, you are more likely to produce females yet they still carry the herm gene.

The problem I have is when irresponsible breeding occurs using females from a feminized plant passing on the herm gene. Polluting genetic lineage. Same reason a True Indica or Sativa is hard to come by, these days everything is a hybrid which has Indica or Sativa tendencies. Unless you are lucky to explore finding your own land race strains around the world.

 

[Two.Bears]

just curious, why would anyone use normal seeds instead of feminized seeds?

In the past I've only bought feminized seeds for obvious reasons but I've often wondered why people buy regular seeds with the 35% chance to get a male.
Planning on producing more seeds?
cheaper seeds?
can't get feminized seeds in a particular strain?

If you want to save seeds for the next crop is one reason.

 

[Two.Bears]

To get a prize male 4 breeding and personally I think reg seeds grow with more vigor.

Of course. The plant that produced those seeds had a dose of colloidal silver.

Anothee thing to consider. If a crop fails and seeds arent produced you could lose some special genetics

 

[Leew421]

The term s1 was created in the cannabis culture. If absolute preservation needs to be taken then instead of hermine the girl I would just hit her with pollen from a solid male. The more I study the more I would much rather have any f series over s. It doesn't always require silver. The removal of ethylene will result in male parts.

 

[Organikz]

The term s1 was created in the cannabis culture. If absolute preservation needs to be taken then instead of hermine the girl I would just hit her with pollen from a solid male. The more I study the more I would much rather have any f series over s. It doesn't always require silver. The removal of ethylene will result in male parts.

I knew there was another way. I think the colloidal silver is very frowned upon because it increases the genetic potential of hermie. I need to get my Malawi rolling and find a good male and cross it with my blackberry. This whole Monsanto scare has me freaked.

 

[Leew421]

They make bags that block it out. I fucked with silver once and I didn't like spraying it like that, it made it look like shit. I just decided to make seeds and run a bunch of them and hand pick what I want from that. I'll hit it again with the same pollen for a second run

 

[MIMedGrower]

Haha @jumpincactus

I'll open up. Most feminized seeds are made by applying colloidal silver to a female plant. Here's the issue. A plant that has 0 potential to turn hermaphrodite will not provide seeds like this. So you see there is genetic potential to becoming a hermaphrodite.

This is my best understanding.

All marijuana plants can reverse. It is always in their genetics. It is caused by hormonal shifts.

And they use a much safer chemical called STS to inhibit ethelyne production and coerce stamen to grow.

I like feminized seeds as I must stay in plant count and have no room for males anyway.

 

[Organikz]

All marijuana plants can reverse. It is always in their genetics. It is caused by hormonal shifts.

And they use a much safer chemical called STS to inhibit ethelyne production and coerce stamen to grow.

I like feminized seeds as I must stay in plant count and have no room for males anyway.

Rhodilization...yessir I realized my mistake but it really takes some serious stress to make a true female go hermaphrodite otherwise they would just light leak it. So now that youve triggered that shift and begin making beans would the hormonal shift code into the genetics and be a little more sensitive to a trigger of this hormone shift? or say more hermaphrodite lineage.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Rhodilization...yessir I realized my mistake but it really takes some serious stress to make a true female go hermaphrodite otherwise they would just light leak it. So now that youve triggered that shift and begin making beans would the hormonal shift code into the genetics and be a little more sensitive to a trigger of this hormone shift? or say more hermaphrodite lineage.

Rhodilization is when you let the plant mature too long and it can make seeds from late nanners.

Works but is very unreliable.

STS is a chemical like CS but safer for us and the plant. And is applied early in flower to stop ethelyne production which is the hormone that makes the flowers bloom.

Neither of these techniques stress the plant the way you are suggesting. You can apply to only part of a plant and have healthy female buds on the rest of it.

I have found that strains like diesel and Thai that tend to grow nanners do so feminized or regular. And stable strains like northern lights and white Widow never get any in my garden even when from feminized seed.

It comes down to the breeding of the plant not the way it is making seeds.

This is info from discussions with the breeder of CH9 seeds. He is one of the early users of STS to make Fem seeds in the late 90's and has been written up in Skunk magazine for his breeding techniques.

The book Marijuana Botany by Clark has great info.

Here is a huge list of free pot books that includes clarks books.

http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/

 

[Organikz]

Rhodilization is when you let the plant mature too long and it can make seeds from late nanners.

Works but is very unreliable.

STS is a chemical like CS but safer for us and the plant. And is applied early in flower to stop ethelyne production which is the hormone that makes the flowers bloom.

Neither of these techniques stress the plant the way you are suggesting. You can apply to only part of a plant and have healthy female buds on the rest of it.

I have found that strains like diesel and Thai that tend to grow nanners do so feminized or regular. And stable strains like northern lights and white Widow never get any in my garden even when from feminized seed.

It comes down to the breeding of the plant not the way it is making seeds.

This is info from discussions with the breeder of CH9 seeds. He is one of the early users of STS to make Fem seeds in the late 90's and has been written up in Skunk magazine for his breeding techniques.

The book Marijuana Botany by Clark has great info.

Here is a huge list of free pot books that includes clarks books.

http://catnews.org/FREE Pot Books/

Cool because honestly this was always a little confusing to me. I think im going to do it the old fashion way. Let them do the horizontal dance. Let a landrace Malawi boy get his d wet in some of this hybrid blackberry. Got 2 phenos of black. A bush and a tree but my concern is budsets and quality lol. I do like their vigor though.

 

[h4ppyf4rmer]

Well here comes a 500 page thread omg you really didn't bring that up did you.

lol, I was honestly wondering... a lot of great answers here and stuff I didn't know, Thanks everyone...

 

[h4ppyf4rmer]

and BTW, I have no intention of breeding. I need to keep my plant count down and what the hell am I going to do with a bunch of seeds... there's already 200 million seed providers with a million different cross strains, I don't need to be one more ... I am no one };-)

 

[BudBogart]

I have used feminized seeds from various well known breeders for several years. I have no intention of getting into the breeding of my own seeds. I think breeding your own is a great hobby if you have the time, space and inclination to do so. If I were young enough, but I'm not.
I personally have found one nanner in the many, many buds that I have trimmed over several years of growing female.
The cost of female seeds is twice the cost vs regular seeds. By the time and money you spend plant, water, light, feed , sex and weed out the males females are the value way to grow , unless your looking to start making clones for perpetuality, why not?
My method of growing, I start early and grow, grow, grow until I can put out big old plants in the ground in early May. The thought of wasting that precious seedling growth stage by putting them all under 12/12 to sex them is the real deal kill for me.
I've learned a lot on this thread, thanks for posting.