First time attempt in growing, I think it messed up something.

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Hi! It is my first attempt on growing any plants really. I have read about the topic as much as I can but at some point one just has to try it in practice and start somewhere..

Not sure if I am doing any of it correctly, I think I did something (or everything wrong). Would appreciate any advice, thanks!


- I got some EasyBud seeds, I read it would be good choise for a beginner.
- My pot is a 10L (2.6 gallon) plastic with lots of draining holes at the bottom and riser/feet so it won't be sitting in the runoff when it becomes time to water.
- The Light is Spider Farmer SF1000
- Soil is just generic store bought soilmix meant indoor growing for herbs. I mixed in some perlite, not sure about the ratio though because I just threw some in and mixed it. Also added a layer of potting gravel to the bottom of the pot.

More details on the soil from the bag:
Composted ingredients: Compost mix (chicken manure, rough ground bark, light peat)
Other ingredients: Moss substrate, dark peat, plant-based biochar for substrates
Liming material: Ground magnesium limestone powder 4 kg/m³
pH: 6.5
Conductivity: 40 mS/m
Nutrient content:
Nitrogen (N), water-soluble 95 mg/l (470 mg/kg of dry matter)
Phosphorus (P), soluble 52 mg/l (430 mg/kg of dry matter)
Potassium (K), soluble 570 mg/l (4600 mg/kg of dry matter)


Day1:
- I slowly pre-soaked the whole soil with ~2.5L (0.66 gallon) of Ph neutral water and got maybe 16% of it as runoff.
- I then started germinating the seeds between moist cotton pads.

Day2:
- Germination happened really fast, just in 24h the taproot was about 6-7mm (little over 1/4").
- I planted the seedling in to the pot, ~12mm (little under 1/2") depth and ever so gently covered the seed with soil.
- Covered the planting area with a clear plastic cup because I have trouble keeping the RH above 30%.

Day3:
- Nothing spectacular happened.

Day4:
- The seedling barely surfaced with the "pod" still almost closed.

Day5:
- Seedling got some length and the "pod" had opened but everything started looking pretty messed up: it only had one narrow cotyledon leaf and it was pointing straight up.
- Turned on the light with timer set to 18h/6h. Light install height: 24" Light power: 40%

Day6: Still looks same, has not grown and the single cotyledon leaf is still pointing straight up.

I attached a picture of the plant. The soil look soaking wet in the picture, i don't know why, but the surface actually feels just moist and does not look nearly as wet to my own eyes.

The temperature in the growing environment has been pretty much constant 25°C (77°F), with RH varying between 30-37%
I have not watered the pot after pre-soaking it becase the soil still feels moist enough. (I can't squeeze water out of it but it stick into a clump if I squeeze it hard)


I feel pretty confused, on the other hand I know things take time and patience. But on the other hand I feel something is not right.
Like I said, this is my very first attempt on growing stuff.
 
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I would leave the dome off the top of the plant, even if rh is low right now.
Plant is close to the moist soil so humidity down there will be higher. Dome may be doing more harm then good.
Looks like the pot is saturated, make sure to let it dry out some before watering again.

Does the plant only have 1 cotyledon or are they stuck together with membrane making it appear like it only has 1?

Did you pull the seed shell off and the leaf come with it?

If it only has 1 leaf, you will have to wait a few days and see if it starts producing true leaves but there's a chance it might not.
 
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I would leave the dome off the top of the plant, even if rh is low right now.
Plant is close to the moist soil so humidity down there will be higher. Dome may be doing more harm then good.
Looks like the pot is saturated, make sure to let it dry out some before watering again.

Does the plant only have 1 cotyledon or are they stuck together with membrane making it appear like it only has 1?

Did you pull the seed shell off and the leaf come with it?

If it only has 1 leaf, you will have to wait a few days and see if it starts producing true leaves but there's a chance it might not.

Thanks! I will take the dome off. I guess the soil might be really moist, but I saturated it nearly a week ago.

It only has one cotyledon, the other one was somehow deformed I think, it was stuck deep inside the shell which was dangling attached to the deformed leaf. It dropped on its own. I "autopsied" the shell half and it kind of looks like the whole other half of the shell contents was still inside. (It looked like a split pea) You can partially see it in the picture. I moved the shell after it dropped so I could better capture it in the picture.

How many days it usually takes for the seedling to start forming true leaves? At this point there is no any sign of those. In fact I have seen in other pictures that theres a small nodule where the cotyledons are attached but this one does not look anything like that.. Though I have no experience if that nodule is there to begin with or develops after some time.. However, now the leaf looks like its just sticking up from the stem.
 
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Thanks! I will take the dome off. I guess the soil might be really moist, but I saturated it nearly a week ago.

It only has one cotyledon, the other one was somehow deformed I think, it was stuck deep inside the shell which was dangling attached to the deformed leaf. It dropped on its own. I "autopsied" the shell half and it kind of looks like the whole other half of the shell contents was still inside. (It looked like a split pea) You can partially see it in the picture. I moved the shell after it dropped so I could better capture it in the picture.

How many days it usually takes for the seedling to start forming true leaves? At this point there is no any sign of those. In fact I have seen in other pictures that theres a small nodule where the cotyledons are attached but this one does not look anything like that.. Though I have no experience if that nodule is there to begin with or develops after some time.. However, now the leaf looks like its just sticking up from the stem.
The stress of what happened would slow the growth of the plant down so if it were to grow true leaves then it could take a bit.
Was the cotyledon green and then start to yellow?

Do you have more seeds?
Being your first grow and everything, idk if I would put the time and resources into a plant that would be questionable. If it did start growing, no saying how well it will grow through the cycle.

I would start a new seed that way you can start off fresh with a healthy plant.

Even if you start a new seed, you could stick the single cotyledon plant in a small plastic cup such as a solo cup and keep it around to see if it ever starts growing but I wouldn't put a lot of time into trying to get it to grow.
 
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The stress of what happened would slow the growth of the plant down so if it were to grow true leaves then it could take a bit.
Was the cotyledon green and then start to yellow?

Do you have more seeds?
Being your first grow and everything, idk if I would put the time and resources into a plant that would be questionable. If it did start growing, no saying how well it will grow through the cycle.

I would start a new seed that way you can start off fresh with a healthy plant.

Even if you start a new seed, you could stick the single cotyledon plant in a small plastic cup such as a solo cup and keep it around to see if it ever starts growing but I wouldn't put a lot of time into trying to get it to grow.
Yeah, the seedling did not make it. I have more seeds but it really frustrates to fail immediately..
I think I now might know the reason why the seedling did not make it. I read about the soil I used and its actually one of the most nutrient filled soil that manufacturer has, I think it is the reason it did not grow. It barely even had any roots grown.

I made a mistake not checking the specs of the soil before using it. I will try again with a different soil.
 
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Yeah, the seedling did not make it. I have more seeds but it really frustrates to fail immediately..
I think I now might know the reason why the seedling did not make it. I read about the soil I used and its actually one of the most nutrient filled soil that manufacturer has, I think it is the reason it did not grow. It barely even had any roots grown.

I made a mistake not checking the specs of the soil before using it. I will try again with a different soil.
welcome to the farm

don't give up brother, you'll get it. there's prolly no one here that hasn't been thru problems,

especially with seedlings. most have spent thousands and thousands of dollars and countless

hours perfecting their craft. every journey starts with the 1st step, and you're well on

your way. i'm a hydro grower, i grow from clones - no seeds. just continue to hang out

around here, read a lot, ask a lot of question (after you've done some research yourself )

and finally, listen to @Newty, that boy really knows his shite about seed/soil growing.

welcome to the endless rabbit hole of growing, you'll soon be hooked and love this 😍

craft as much as we do -peace' ☮️
 
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Thanks! I will take the dome off. I guess the soil might be really moist, but I saturated it nearly a week ago.

It only has one cotyledon, the other one was somehow deformed I think, it was stuck deep inside the shell which was dangling attached to the deformed leaf. It dropped on its own. I "autopsied" the shell half and it kind of looks like the whole other half of the shell contents was still inside. (It looked like a split pea) You can partially see it in the picture. I moved the shell after it dropped so I could better capture it in the picture.

How many days it usually takes for the seedling to start forming true leaves? At this point there is no any sign of those. In fact I have seen in other pictures that theres a small nodule where the cotyledons are attached but this one does not look anything like that.. Though I have no experience if that nodule is there to begin with or develops after some time.. However, now the leaf looks like its just sticking up from the stem.
The true leaves will appear a couple days after the cotyledons open. These were planted on Saturday, popped through the soil on Tuesday, 1st picture is Wednesday and the 2nd photo was from Friday.
 
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if you'r not seeing the first true set of leaves forming then this is most prolly a dead case, not all seeds make it past germination and seedling stage.
 
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I'd probably start another seed. Starting plants from seeds can be challenging. I try to get every one of them to grow, but sometimes, they just don't.
 
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Yeah, the seedling did not make it. I have more seeds but it really frustrates to fail immediately..
I think I now might know the reason why the seedling did not make it. I read about the soil I used and its actually one of the most nutrient filled soil that manufacturer has, I think it is the reason it did not grow. It barely even had any roots grown.

I made a mistake not checking the specs of the soil before using it. I will try again with a different soil.
Look at my profile picture. That was my first attempt at seed starting😂 and I’ve killed a bunch after also. I get the efforts put forth and failing sucks but its going to happen : ) I’ve got some solos out in the shed right now with more failure in them : ) youll figure it out for sure! just gotta get through the first few humps and bumps. also there is a fine line between being too involved and not involved enough, thats a hard line to find and then to balance on, at least for me. im either out there messing things up or not out there enough which messes things up lol.
 
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I took 6x bagseeds from Cereal Milk dispo weed. Every one of them did that, they sprouted and then died as soon as they came up. Looked exactly like the OP's seedlings. Just bad genetics probably.
 
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