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started out with 3 cbd autos [cbd kush, cbd white widow and cbd critical mass] outside around august 20th in 10gal bags... one died within a week of germination, 2 survived fine and now are in well into their 5th week since germination... as seen on photos, both are spindly and way undersized for being about 37 days old but i expected this using nothing but lowe's bought soil [raised bed mix] and nothing but tap water... my intentions were to go as simple as possible, and consequently expect a very modest size/yield... but i figured it's called weed for a reason [it actually is a weed] and if my grow bag grown tomatoes and beans can thrive under identical conditions so can friggin' weed...
apparently i was wrong, these plants are far more finicky and demanding than the veggies i grow right along them...
idk, perhaps the current hybridized strains available have gotten so far away from the actual original weed strains that could thrive in most hot/humid conditions that now they've become much more difficult to grow than any common vegetables...
moving on, i obviously started way too late for north east area to finish the cycle outside so i knew both grow bags will need to go into the tent for most of their growth cycle...i next purchased ac infinity's 2x4 full grow tent kit and right before the first night which recently went down below 55 f degrees i had them moved into that tent, this was about 3 days ago...
now, i don't want to share too much info about myself given my location [north east, above wv, below me] but need to provide some in order to get a better advice... so, i'm severely disabled in a wheelchair living in an apartment where there's no possibility of growing anything... therefore all the veggies [and now my first attempt at this green stuff] i grow, i do so at my mom's house garden/yard, she lives a couple of small towns away from me, less than 20 minutes... i also ask her to water my veggies in bags whenever she waters her garden on daily/semi-daily basis...
ditto regarding these 2 weeds i've decided to try to grow recently....
anyway, both plants seemed to wake up anew after the first 2 days/nights in a controlled environment under the lights and to me looked suddenly invigorated based on daily pics my mom regularly snaps of them for me [i'm not very mobile and can't get to her place too often]...
then today, a total disaster...
when my mom looked into the tent late morning today, both bags were covered inside and out with writhing, crawling larvae which to my laic eye looked like centipede larvae on the few pics she snapped for me...also, there were 5 or 6 roly-poly looking bastards on the leaves of the smaller plant apparently in the throes of munching away the leaves of my poor plants with abandon... even the bottom part of the zipper on the tent's front door had a bunch of those writhing, crawling larvae so they evidently can move/spread quite speedily...
according to what she told me a few hours later, she first had the presence of mind to snap several pics for me but then immediately started to spray all these bastards with some type of an insecticide she sometimes uses on her plants in the garden [supposedly it's 'organic' but i don't know what brand].. within several minutes of her spraying the stuff most - if not all - of the larvae were barely moving anymore or already curled up dead... afterwards she lifted both grow bags above the tent's floor and scraped the remaining dead carcasses off of it and then vacuumed the floor of the tent...
as far as she could tell, no new moving insects of both kind were visible anywhere afterwards...
i had to commend her, with her total phobia and disgust for spiders, centipedes and similar creepy-crawlies she did very well...
however, i'm not fooled... unless that insecticidal spray she used was some powerful toxic chemical crap instead of some mild organically formulated one [in which case both plants will also likely die within 2-3 days] there are still likely a bunch of these bastards within the soil of both grow bags... i counted at least 600 on all the photos so there are likely multiple of that number still in the soil/bags, whether dead or alive...
perhaps the sudden change from the rather recently cool nights outside to the ac light's and overall tent's warm and serene environment signaled these nasties eggs to hatch en masse within the soil or whatever triggered this sudden infestation, but at this point i'm not sure what to expect next and what to do...
i'd feel significant pangs of regret to just destroy these 2 plants after well over a month of willing them to grow and survive yet perhaps the best course of action would be to just take both bags out of the tent asap before any eggs could be laid in its crevasses, nooks and crannies, spread that soil outside in her yard/garden, thoroughly wash and/or sterilize the bags and just begin anew with a fresh, different soil [i'm thinking happy frog by fax farms perhaps?] and maybe even new grow bags...
i'm thinking that the raised garden bed mix soil i purchased from lowe's and used in the grow bags was already full of these bastards' eggs and they simply spontaneously hatched when exposed to the grow tent's environment...
my mom dropped by my place a few hours later and she snapped a few pics of both plants for me just before she did so...i can definitely see some damage to the leaves on the shorter plant made by the roly-poly looking bastards... the slightly taller plant looks ok, at least not in any worst state it did on pics from the previous day prior to this outbreak of insects...
after some googling, what i thought were centipede larvae, i think might actually be greenhouse millipede larvae... i've found some pics online of the latter ones which seem to be the closest match to what i see on the pics my mom snapped... i'd post a link or 2 but i'm not sure that would be cool along the forum's policies....
as far as the roly-poly [aka woodlice] looking bastards, i don't know what these are...there's one of these visible on photo number 3 i've posted, at the bottom, towards the right crawling on the inside of the grow bag, a couple of inches above the soil... afaik, wood lice don't munch on plant leaves so they're likely something else...
now, greenhouse millipedes [if that's what these in fact are] are apparently harmless to potted plants in which soil they dwell so perhaps my mom did far more harm to both of my plants by spraying some evil toxic crap all over them than just let them be but i don't blame her...upon seeing such writhing, crawling mass of larvae all over the bags and tent area, i'd likely take immediate action of death dealing myself and i don't even share the level of disgust towards such - admittedly gross - crawlies with my mom, at least not to that extent... however, i'd certainly not reach for the nearest can of some chemical concoction as my first choice and would likely just resort to a more physical, direct action of holocausting the nasties...
any suggestions as far as my next course of action will be appreciated... as well as what they in fact are, especially the ones that were ON my plant's leaves apparently snacking away...
as i looked closely at today's pics, i noticed that the larger plant seems to actually have just began its flowering phase this morning already with a couple of whitish 'petals' at the very top thus i won't probably get anything more than a small single bud off of it in the end, provided it'll even survive the spray assault unleashed upon it by my mom...
so any self respecting grower would most likely just pull both tiny plants and start anew... however, these being my very first 'weeds' ever grown in my 56 y/o life, i have developed quite a sentiment towards them in a span of just a single month so i'd be happy with even a single small bud from my very first attempt, before i begin my next attempt but utilizing much better basic resources this time around [besides using a much better soil i also pre-ordered ac's upcoming wifi controller and plan to add a wifi internet live cam so i can remotely view, monitor and adjust conditions inside the tent]... but if allowing these 2 plants to remain within the tent, and finish their cycle for the next 2 months or so, might potentially serve to inundate my new tent with hidden eggs that will hatch during my next attempt, i'll just nix these 2 plants at once so please share your experience/opinion freely...
man, i just can't keep my typing concise... apologies in advance for my unabridged literary tendencies....
ok, lastly the description of photos taken earlier today [actually now it's yesterday in light of the 3am time of me posting this] by mom... there was actually another photo - showing the worst infested area of all of these - she snapped and showed me but neglected to send me that one, where there was an actual writhing small circle mass of these larvae, about 100 or so... however, here are the ones she sent me :
pic 1 - a bunch of larvae at the outside base/surface of ac infinity's auto-watering pots...
pic 2 - a bunch of larvae at the zipper area, around the front bottom area of my tent...
pic 3 - close up of the larvae from pic 2...
pic 4 - a bunch of larvae on top of the soil's surface plus a roly-poly looking bastard visible at the pic's bottom towards the right...
pic 5 - close up of the roly-poly looking bastard...
pic 6 - a bunch of larvae crawling along the outside surface of one grow bag and on tent's floor...
pic 7 - a close up of a larvae on the bag's surface...
pic 8 - same as above...
pic 9 - the shorter one of both plants with some visible leaf damage by the roly-poly looking bastards, at least 9 leaves are affected...
pic 10 - the slightly taller of the 2 plants, with discernable damage only to the 2 bottom leaves and also a very slight sign of already entering the flowering phase...
pic 11 - same plant as pic 10, different angle...
thanks to anyone for sharing any experienced advice and suggestions
...
cheers...
[edit]- hmmm, before i posted this and now as i'm in 'edit' mode, my photos are visible to me... but after i posted it publicly, only the photos titles are displayed, no actual pics are visible... what am i doing wrong?...
started out with 3 cbd autos [cbd kush, cbd white widow and cbd critical mass] outside around august 20th in 10gal bags... one died within a week of germination, 2 survived fine and now are in well into their 5th week since germination... as seen on photos, both are spindly and way undersized for being about 37 days old but i expected this using nothing but lowe's bought soil [raised bed mix] and nothing but tap water... my intentions were to go as simple as possible, and consequently expect a very modest size/yield... but i figured it's called weed for a reason [it actually is a weed] and if my grow bag grown tomatoes and beans can thrive under identical conditions so can friggin' weed...
apparently i was wrong, these plants are far more finicky and demanding than the veggies i grow right along them...
idk, perhaps the current hybridized strains available have gotten so far away from the actual original weed strains that could thrive in most hot/humid conditions that now they've become much more difficult to grow than any common vegetables...
moving on, i obviously started way too late for north east area to finish the cycle outside so i knew both grow bags will need to go into the tent for most of their growth cycle...i next purchased ac infinity's 2x4 full grow tent kit and right before the first night which recently went down below 55 f degrees i had them moved into that tent, this was about 3 days ago...
now, i don't want to share too much info about myself given my location [north east, above wv, below me] but need to provide some in order to get a better advice... so, i'm severely disabled in a wheelchair living in an apartment where there's no possibility of growing anything... therefore all the veggies [and now my first attempt at this green stuff] i grow, i do so at my mom's house garden/yard, she lives a couple of small towns away from me, less than 20 minutes... i also ask her to water my veggies in bags whenever she waters her garden on daily/semi-daily basis...
ditto regarding these 2 weeds i've decided to try to grow recently....
anyway, both plants seemed to wake up anew after the first 2 days/nights in a controlled environment under the lights and to me looked suddenly invigorated based on daily pics my mom regularly snaps of them for me [i'm not very mobile and can't get to her place too often]...
then today, a total disaster...
when my mom looked into the tent late morning today, both bags were covered inside and out with writhing, crawling larvae which to my laic eye looked like centipede larvae on the few pics she snapped for me...also, there were 5 or 6 roly-poly looking bastards on the leaves of the smaller plant apparently in the throes of munching away the leaves of my poor plants with abandon... even the bottom part of the zipper on the tent's front door had a bunch of those writhing, crawling larvae so they evidently can move/spread quite speedily...
according to what she told me a few hours later, she first had the presence of mind to snap several pics for me but then immediately started to spray all these bastards with some type of an insecticide she sometimes uses on her plants in the garden [supposedly it's 'organic' but i don't know what brand].. within several minutes of her spraying the stuff most - if not all - of the larvae were barely moving anymore or already curled up dead... afterwards she lifted both grow bags above the tent's floor and scraped the remaining dead carcasses off of it and then vacuumed the floor of the tent...
as far as she could tell, no new moving insects of both kind were visible anywhere afterwards...
i had to commend her, with her total phobia and disgust for spiders, centipedes and similar creepy-crawlies she did very well...
however, i'm not fooled... unless that insecticidal spray she used was some powerful toxic chemical crap instead of some mild organically formulated one [in which case both plants will also likely die within 2-3 days] there are still likely a bunch of these bastards within the soil of both grow bags... i counted at least 600 on all the photos so there are likely multiple of that number still in the soil/bags, whether dead or alive...
perhaps the sudden change from the rather recently cool nights outside to the ac light's and overall tent's warm and serene environment signaled these nasties eggs to hatch en masse within the soil or whatever triggered this sudden infestation, but at this point i'm not sure what to expect next and what to do...
i'd feel significant pangs of regret to just destroy these 2 plants after well over a month of willing them to grow and survive yet perhaps the best course of action would be to just take both bags out of the tent asap before any eggs could be laid in its crevasses, nooks and crannies, spread that soil outside in her yard/garden, thoroughly wash and/or sterilize the bags and just begin anew with a fresh, different soil [i'm thinking happy frog by fax farms perhaps?] and maybe even new grow bags...
i'm thinking that the raised garden bed mix soil i purchased from lowe's and used in the grow bags was already full of these bastards' eggs and they simply spontaneously hatched when exposed to the grow tent's environment...
my mom dropped by my place a few hours later and she snapped a few pics of both plants for me just before she did so...i can definitely see some damage to the leaves on the shorter plant made by the roly-poly looking bastards... the slightly taller plant looks ok, at least not in any worst state it did on pics from the previous day prior to this outbreak of insects...
after some googling, what i thought were centipede larvae, i think might actually be greenhouse millipede larvae... i've found some pics online of the latter ones which seem to be the closest match to what i see on the pics my mom snapped... i'd post a link or 2 but i'm not sure that would be cool along the forum's policies....
as far as the roly-poly [aka woodlice] looking bastards, i don't know what these are...there's one of these visible on photo number 3 i've posted, at the bottom, towards the right crawling on the inside of the grow bag, a couple of inches above the soil... afaik, wood lice don't munch on plant leaves so they're likely something else...
now, greenhouse millipedes [if that's what these in fact are] are apparently harmless to potted plants in which soil they dwell so perhaps my mom did far more harm to both of my plants by spraying some evil toxic crap all over them than just let them be but i don't blame her...upon seeing such writhing, crawling mass of larvae all over the bags and tent area, i'd likely take immediate action of death dealing myself and i don't even share the level of disgust towards such - admittedly gross - crawlies with my mom, at least not to that extent... however, i'd certainly not reach for the nearest can of some chemical concoction as my first choice and would likely just resort to a more physical, direct action of holocausting the nasties...
any suggestions as far as my next course of action will be appreciated... as well as what they in fact are, especially the ones that were ON my plant's leaves apparently snacking away...
as i looked closely at today's pics, i noticed that the larger plant seems to actually have just began its flowering phase this morning already with a couple of whitish 'petals' at the very top thus i won't probably get anything more than a small single bud off of it in the end, provided it'll even survive the spray assault unleashed upon it by my mom...
so any self respecting grower would most likely just pull both tiny plants and start anew... however, these being my very first 'weeds' ever grown in my 56 y/o life, i have developed quite a sentiment towards them in a span of just a single month so i'd be happy with even a single small bud from my very first attempt, before i begin my next attempt but utilizing much better basic resources this time around [besides using a much better soil i also pre-ordered ac's upcoming wifi controller and plan to add a wifi internet live cam so i can remotely view, monitor and adjust conditions inside the tent]... but if allowing these 2 plants to remain within the tent, and finish their cycle for the next 2 months or so, might potentially serve to inundate my new tent with hidden eggs that will hatch during my next attempt, i'll just nix these 2 plants at once so please share your experience/opinion freely...
man, i just can't keep my typing concise... apologies in advance for my unabridged literary tendencies....
ok, lastly the description of photos taken earlier today [actually now it's yesterday in light of the 3am time of me posting this] by mom... there was actually another photo - showing the worst infested area of all of these - she snapped and showed me but neglected to send me that one, where there was an actual writhing small circle mass of these larvae, about 100 or so... however, here are the ones she sent me :
pic 1 - a bunch of larvae at the outside base/surface of ac infinity's auto-watering pots...
pic 2 - a bunch of larvae at the zipper area, around the front bottom area of my tent...
pic 3 - close up of the larvae from pic 2...
pic 4 - a bunch of larvae on top of the soil's surface plus a roly-poly looking bastard visible at the pic's bottom towards the right...
pic 5 - close up of the roly-poly looking bastard...
pic 6 - a bunch of larvae crawling along the outside surface of one grow bag and on tent's floor...
pic 7 - a close up of a larvae on the bag's surface...
pic 8 - same as above...
pic 9 - the shorter one of both plants with some visible leaf damage by the roly-poly looking bastards, at least 9 leaves are affected...
pic 10 - the slightly taller of the 2 plants, with discernable damage only to the 2 bottom leaves and also a very slight sign of already entering the flowering phase...
pic 11 - same plant as pic 10, different angle...
thanks to anyone for sharing any experienced advice and suggestions
cheers...
[edit]- hmmm, before i posted this and now as i'm in 'edit' mode, my photos are visible to me... but after i posted it publicly, only the photos titles are displayed, no actual pics are visible... what am i doing wrong?...
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