g13 x butterscotch hawaiian? any info?

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slausongardens

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so bc bud seed co or whatever has a strain called the big which is g13 x butterscotch hawaiian.

wasnt this originally motas or reefermans strain?? i know its been around way before bc bud co got a hold of it and started calling it the big. so anyone know the deal?

i bought it just cuz i want that strain bad as fuck but i dont like supporting rip off artists so just curious to whats going on with it.

thanks.
 
Motarebel

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That cross was made by Swampy using the '88 G-13/HP ,not sure if he got the BH before Reeferman got a hold of it or not. The BH is not a Reeferman original,surprising eh? Swampy is no longer with us but can't help to think he wouldn't of wanted someone profitting from it.
 
Lowman

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G13XBH is now called Free Leonard I thought. The ones I have grown out have been great. Still have two phenos I'm workin with now. Very hardy girls.
 
slausongardens

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you would think bc bud depot would give credit to swampy especially cuz he isnt with us anymore. these big seedbanks just come up on other peoples genetics and claim them like its nothing. jeeze.
 
twoguysupnorth

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Yep Mota has it right. I got a pk of free leonards and also ended up with a pk marked bsh x g13. Free leos are growing now. Ive wanted to try them for years. Since mi went medical and i caught the tail end of swampys life on a med site. He seemed like a funny person and very helpfull to anyone who asked. The seeds.were free to me and will be to the next person too. It was Swampys wishes that everyone had free access to good meds, namely free leo. Leonard peltier, probably have last name wrong, is a political prisoner in the us.

These seedlings had the fattest leaves. I normally grow sat hybrids, which i guess this would be but doesnt look it. Im still in the small plant stage, so a little bit yet. Ime dark green fat indica looking leaves as seedlings.
 
twoguysupnorth

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Earlier pics

These were awhile ago.
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slausongardens

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natural light huh? and i aint talkin bout the sun.

but u got lucky with those beans, from what i hear they will turn out lovely. keep posting pics.
 
twoguysupnorth

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Took me a minute ....lol. That would be my partners, I dont drink or rarely do. I had 3 beers and 2 shots the other day but it was grandmas funeral gathering. Otherwise I can go months without taking a sip. Just saying because I did used to be a severe alcoholic. Apparently when I started meds for depression it flipped a switch and dont need or crave it anymore. Also Im sure pain management helps.
 
twoguysupnorth

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Im also trying g13 in some other stuff right now. Tangerine dream, mau mau, I thought there were more but cant remember. Im excited for all the strains this year. Lots of new ones for me.

The natty is my partners. I hardly ever drink any more. Its nice when I get to take in all the returnables lol and get 20-30$
 
Lowman

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Something to look forward to when you grow her out. As you can see...lots of tip burn as I had a salt build up issue...but she handled it better than the other strains.
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slausongardens

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wow. those are some chunky colas man. damn. im so used to little og nugs, thats a monster. no wonder they call it the big.. although they shoulda kept the free leonard name on gp.
 
noodles

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I have a few pics of butterscotch hawaiian x g13 ill post later, it was a beautiful plant, she smelled intensely of burnt rubber and pine. This was years back, hopefully bcbuddepot didn't screw it up with their breeding skills.
 
twoguysupnorth

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Wow Lowman. nice. I guess it didnt register that it was you posting lol. We will have to compare?trade or pollinate something.
 
fractal

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Something to look forward to when you grow her out. As you can see...lots of tip burn as I had a salt build up issue...but she handled it better than the other strains. View attachment 206973


THAT is a freaking beautiful plant right there, looks like you could hit 3 pounds a light with the right amount of plants in a SOG. What are those colas, like 20 grams each? Insane.
 
N8tive Farmer

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natural light huh? and i aint talkin bout the sun.

but u got lucky with those beans, from what i hear they will turn out lovely. keep posting pics.
Swampy and myself bred those for med reasons and gave them away free prolly a few thousand,right pheno was killer,used my GHash and swampys BHhe had for years and years,cray made that cross anywaqy reef didn't have shit to do wiith it,the seedbank got those beans from who knows who but I also heard they have some herm issues so prolly someone made some F2's and screwed them up and sold them to that seedbank as we never had a herm problem with original stock,I miss my friend bigtime we had fun winnin contests with this cross and givin away all those beans,swampy named his Free Leonard when we split up the beans I just carried on with G13/BSH for a few more gens,hell I still give these awayb to med users who need help.:D
 
The Joker

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Swampy and myself bred those for med reasons and gave them away free prolly a few thousand,right pheno was killer,used my GHash and swampys BHhe had for years and years,cray made that cross anywaqy reef didn't have shit to do wiith it,the seedbank got those beans from who knows who but I also heard they have some herm issues so prolly someone made some F2's and screwed them up and sold them to that seedbank as we never had a herm problem with original stock,I miss my friend bigtime we had fun winnin contests with this cross and givin away all those beans,swampy named his Free Leonard when we split up the beans I just carried on with G13/BSH for a few more gens,hell I still give these awayb to med users who need help.:D
Wherever you are NDN guy, I hope you are doing well and happy. I have some of these seeds left. I should do an open pollination to the Pure Kush. I hope you still have that cut I gave you.
 
eastcoastjoe

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From what I understand @Shamus is very close with N8tive. Apparently he is in charge of his seed stock. Maybe he has heard from him.
 
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