Help needed urgently please!

[Jay2212]

Hiya I am fairly new to this, any help will be greatly appreciated!
100% coco
Strain Cali cookies
Canna nutes a&b, canna cal Mag to bring ec upto 0.4 before a&b, bud link, little bit of super thrive
Ph 5.8
Currently in week 2 from getting the cuttings

I noticed the start of thrips yesterday and have since sprayed the girls with 4ml/per litre of pyrtherm but the plants looked unhealthy before this, please could someone tell me what is going on here as I just don’t know? Cheers

 

[Jay2212]

4x 600w hps
Humidity 40%
Temp day 25/27
Temp night 22/24

 

[ozarkgrey]

PH is to low, and they look over or under fed to me. what type of medium are using? droop before or after water ?

 

[ozarkgrey]

are you measuring your PH by your run off ? cause 5.8 might be low enough to cause nute lock out?

 

[Jay2212]

are you measuring your PH by your run off ? cause 5.8 might be low enough to cause nute lock out?

Thanks for the reply ozark, they are in coco, last feed I did a ph of 6, at the minute I am hand feeding them 1 litre each and then waiting until dry, eventually to go on droppers, at first I though it were N Tox but the tips aren’t clawed, 1 or 2 of the leaves also have rusted spots on them but not sure if this is due to the thrips

 

[Jay2212]

Thanks for the reply ozark, they are in coco, last feed I did a ph of 6, at the minute I am hand feeding them 1 litre each and then waiting until dry, eventually to go on droppers, at first I though it were N Tox but the tips aren’t clawed, 1 or 2 of the leaves also have rusted spots on them but not sure if this is due to the thrips

That’s the ph in my tank sorry

 

[Jay2212]

That’s the ph in my tank sorry

Leaves aren’t growing to full potential either they seem stunted and small, some are clawing worse than others

 

[Jay2212]

Currently feeding at 1.2 ec

 

[ozarkgrey]

That’s the ph in my tank sorry

you want to measure the water run off or surry as they call it. place a pan under the pot and water it with 6.0-6..5 PH water till you get the surry and then measure it. that will give you a true reading of the soil PH. i would also stop all nutes till you get this handled

 

[Beachwalker]

Thanks for the reply ozark, they are in coco, last feed I did a ph of 6, at the minute I am hand feeding them 1 litre each and then waiting until dry, eventually to go on droppers, at first I though it were N Tox but the tips aren’t clawed, 1 or 2 of the leaves also have rusted spots on them but not sure if this is due to the thrips

Don't wait for Coco to dry! water it at least once a day

talk to Coco growers on here if I think of one I'll try to tag somebody in for you, but that's the first thing I would change right away, never let Coco dry out

and always run at least 20% extra through it for run off every watering and always water it with nutrients, And a pH of 5.9 - 6 is commonly used in Coco, but next time add perlite to it

also when you find a Coco grower ask them about washing cocoa and doing do some reading would help you right now too, good luck

Edit: I've got a good cocoa grower that might be able to talk to you! @Seraphine

 

[Jay2212]

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Don't wait for Coco to dry! water it at least once a day

talk to Coco growers on here if I think of one I'll try to tag somebody in for you, but that's the first thing I would change right away, never let Coco dry out

and always run at least 20% extra through it for run off every watering and always water it with nutrients, And a pH of 5.9 - 6 is commonly used in Coco, but next time add perlite to it

also when you find a Coco grower ask them about washing cocoa and doing do some reading would help you right now too, good luck

Edit: I've got a good cocoa grower that might be able to talk to you! @Seraphine

thanks a lot! Tbh I haven’t been letting it dry completely out, there’s something a miss here, I also have purple stalks, would you recommend a flush with an ec of around 0.8? Let them take that in and feed as normal? I really want to turn this around and I’m getting quiet concerned. Thanks again

 

[Jay2212]

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thanks a lot! Tbh I haven’t been letting it dry completely out, there’s something a miss here, I also have purple stalks, would you recommend a flush with an ec of around 0.8? Let them take that in and feed as normal? I really want to turn this around and I’m getting quiet concerned. Thanks again

I haven’t been watering to run off though? My friend says he never does this so I followed him like a sheep haha

 

[ozarkgrey]

i'm running super soil here. i've heard both with watering and coco, everyday and every 3-4 days as long as your pot has proper drainage. i suggested laying off some water as they look over or under fed. but nutes with every watering for sure. 600 PPM is that too high for coco /

 

[ozarkgrey]

I haven’t been watering to run off though? My friend says he never does this so I followed him like a sheep haha

right but otherwise you have no idea what the soil or root PH is? i'll bail now and let someone more experienced than i jump in and help you. last thing i want to do is fuck u up worse than you are.

 

[Jay2212]

This is the worst looking one, lights are off, used flash on my phone

 

[Beachwalker]

I haven’t been watering to run off though? My friend says he never does this so I followed him like a sheep haha

Again wait for Sarah, she's around quite a bit usually later in the day and she's a very nice, helpful person.

I'm not a cocoa grower although I am familiar with how to treat the medium, I'd rather you talk to her than me, but what I told you above is legit.

In the meantime I'd recommend you search "growing cannabis in Coco" online and do a lot of reading (and don't listen to your friend! Lol)

Ps. Doesn't even look like your watering the whole pot, make sure that whole thing is wet, never let Coco dry always speed at nutrients and always make runoff!

 

[ozarkgrey]

stick your finger down into it up to the second knuckle, is it wet, dry, moist

 

[Jay2212]

Again wait for Sarah, she's around quite a bit usually later in the day and she's a very nice, helpful person.

I'm not a cocoa grower although I am familiar with how to treat the medium, I'd rather you talk to her than me, but what I told you above is legit.

In the meantime I'd recommend you search "growing cannabis in Coco" online and do a lot of reading (and don't listen to your friend! Lol)

Ps. Doesn't even look like your watering the whole pot, make sure that whole thing is wet, never let Coco dry always speed at nutrients and always make runoff!

Thank you I really appreciate it

 

[Jay2212]

Again wait for Sarah, she's around quite a bit usually later in the day and she's a very nice, helpful person.

I'm not a cocoa grower although I am familiar with how to treat the medium, I'd rather you talk to her than me, but what I told you above is legit.

In the meantime I'd recommend you search "growing cannabis in Coco" online and do a lot of reading (and don't listen to your friend! Lol)

Ps. Doesn't even look like your watering the whole pot, make sure that whole thing is wet, never let Coco dry always speed at nutrients and always make runoff!

Well I thought wetting the whole pot would do damage as they aren’t fully rooted yet, do any of you think I may of over fed?

 

[Newber]

@PlumberSoCal2 uses coco, might be able to help