Is it too early to tell male or female?

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HerbalEdu

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somebody out there somewhere, not you but you have heard... anyone sexing a plant on 12 -12 is doing it the slowest possible way...outside of 13 - 11 which some cannabis plants do actually flower on 13 hours light. Try it. Sexing it with the bare minimum darkness could take weeks. 2 maybe 3. People flower with 12, 13 because they think maximum light equals maximum yield. But remeber, its a plant that gets happy, flowers and gets excited about darkness.

Sexing on 6 hours light gives it maximum darkness yet provides just enough light (meager rations) for it to manage its processes just fine. But it's only for sexing. 6 is too much of a slimming diet, not recommended for long periods. It's not uncommon to sex a few adult plants in 4-5 days from a group if you have 9 or a dozen to look at. There is always fast ones and slower ones. If you have been abusing them with light stress on 18 or 24 hours light... they arent happy and may not cooperate. So really I would say this quick sexing is for adult plants accustomed to 16 or less daily light integral. 14's will be ready and willing to party and get naked.

Be bold, and drop your known favorite variety you are familiar with into 10 -14, 2 more hours more darkness than normal for flowering. Hit it with 10 hours intense light. You will be surprised with the result. Photoprotection is a real phenomenon, not a myth. Take note of the differences in quality, resin production, bud size, growth pattern, finish time. When you see differences, try 9, 8. Really dial that shit in for that variety. If you are experienced, you may even like to try it out of boredom. But be prepared for interesting things. Then go full ape and start flowering cycle with 12-12 and drop that time a little each week with a 6 or 8 hour finish that last week.

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what trigger flowering is the release of florigen hormone that happen when enough night time, if you want to create a spike in florigen hormone release you could just make a transition to flower with 24h darkness or 36h darkness, this make the plant produce preflowers and flowers much faster ...
 
RegularRebel

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what trigger flowering is the release of florigen hormone that happen when enough night time, if you want to create a spike in florigen hormone release you could just make a transition to flower with 24h darkness or 36h darkness, this make the plant produce preflowers much faster ...
Not a good idea. Its unhealthy, and unnecessary. You can also leave it in the dark for a week. Also not a good idea and not healthy.
 
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what trigger flowering is the release of florigen hormone that happen when enough night time, if you want to create a spike in florigen hormone release you could just make a transition to flower with 24h darkness or 36h darkness, this make the plant produce preflowers and flowers much faster ...
Learn plant biology 101 and you can avoid imitating useless and detrimental practices. Respect the plant, respect living things, have reverence. Move from use/abuse/exploit for me me me to respect, reverence, love.
 
HerbalEdu

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@RegularRebel I think you would do better in another online community. I'm not sure Thcfarmer is the place for you. You seem to run into this problem in every thread you join. Maybe try reddit instead.

In a week you went from incoherent chat GPT babble to straight up abusive language. I'm sorry everyone ignored your DIY calmag thread. I'm sorry I made fun of you for telling people to stick matches in their soil.

But like I said before, you have no credibility here, no diary, no pics. You're trying to fool a forum packed with experienced growers into thinking you know what your talking about when it's really obvious to everyone you don't.

Stop hijacking people's threads picking fights with people who don't agree with you. Every time I read one of your posts my bullshit detector goes off the scale.

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Learn plant biology 101 and you can avoid imitating useless and detrimental practices. Respect the plant, respect living things, have reverence. Move from use/abuse/exploit for me me me to respect, reverence, love.
as many have already stated including moderator, your not worth arguing with. You're mixing actual science with your own beliefs, and bulshits in almost every of your useless wall of text.
 
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amneziaHaze

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as many have already stated including moderator, your not worth arguing with. You're mixing actual science with your own beliefs, and bulshits in almost every of your useless wall of text.
ah don't pick on him he is probably depressed or off the meds and releasing his anger online.better here than fighting with his family and friends you can easily just press the ignore button
 
RegularRebel

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If you 2 would have put the same effort into learning the ABCs of plant biology, instead of displaying your hurt egos, you would have found some basic information like that plants need light for photosynthesis. I thought it was common sense, but I checked, and this information is available, not a secret, easy to find. It used to be taught in public school.

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It's not really necessary to provide links to that. But you should check that you arent a victim of superstitions, bro science, because it's going to be a little difficult to argue for denying a plant the opportunity for photosynthesis as something helpful, even short term.

Thank you for this opportunity to illustrate my previous statements with such good examples of why studying plant biology, gardening, horticulture and such is best done outside the context of cannabis focused areas because of the prevalence of misinformation and crowd mentality. This is good for people to know.

If you can present a sane rational argument for your advice of keeping a cannabis plant in darkness for 24-36 hours is a better method than I put forth, I would be willing to read it. It would be counter-intuitive, but anything is possible. Perhaps we all have had it wrong for a few thousand years.
 
HerbalEdu

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If you 2 would have put the same effort into learning the ABCs of plant biology, instead of displaying your hurt egos, you would have found some basic information like that plants need light for photosynthesis. I thought it was common sense, but I checked, and this information is available, not a secret, easy to find. It used to be taught in public school.

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It's not really necessary to provide links to that. But you should check that you arent a victim of superstitions, bro science, because it's going to be a little difficult to argue for denying a plant the opportunity for photosynthesis as something helpful, even short term.

Thank you for this opportunity to illustrate my previous statements with such good examples of why studying plant biology, gardening, horticulture and such is best done outside the context of cannabis focused areas because of the prevalence of misinformation and crowd mentality. This is good for people to know.

If you can present a sane rational argument for your advice of keeping a cannabis plant in darkness for 24-36 hours is a better method than I put forth, I would be willing to read it. It would be counter-intuitive, but anything is possible. Perhaps we all have had it wrong for a few thousand years.

once again mixing actual science with bullshits ...

24 36 hours darkness once isn't exaclty what you could call a too prolonged period of darkness. Plant handle it easily they are much more resilient than you suggest, it's not like a week without a light ...

everyone know TOO MUCH light deprivation is detrimental ...

you may want to look into how phytochromes actually work with cannabis. and how they regulate florigen hormone release and how florigen hormone induce flowering ...
 
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RegularRebel

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Will feminized seeds from good breeders herm
Let's examine what could be good, or bad. But I would rather use seed supplier instead of breeder.
Is a seed supplier that *only provides feminized or sterile GMO products that you cannot make your own seeds so you become dependent on them constantly draining your money "good," when compared to a different supplier of regular seeds who sells you something and then it is yours to do as you like, empowering you to make as many seeds regular or feminized you want to, "good" ? You tell me. Who's the good guy? Who are you empowering?
 
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Because to make feminized seeds they artificially stress a female into producing male reproductive parts which makes it a hermaphrodite.

Well that’s one way however I can tell you first hand it’s not how feminised seeds are made on mass by commercial breeders.

It would take up way to much space doing it that way as well as costs.

nearly all the big breeders started trying to make fem seeds originally with gibberellic acid.
I know this from the conversations I used to have with them on overgrow ( back then most of them were young bucks my age )

Then they found out colidal silver worked to reverse & later on sti
 
amneziaHaze

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he's confusing people asking for help with half truth half bullshit. mostly my point ...
yea true... but i feel sorry for the kid

Well that’s one way however I can tell you first hand it’s not how feminised seeds are made on mass by commercial breeders.

It would take up way to much space doing it that way as well as costs.

nearly all the big breeders started trying to make fem seeds originally with gibberellic acid.
I know this from the conversations I used to have with them on overgrow ( back then most of them were young bucks my age )

Then they found out colidal silver worked to reverse & later on sti
he is probably thinking about potatos and monsanto we dont have that in cannabis.only gmo is that famous strain.
ormaybe he thinks about strains that have been inbreed for so long that they dont produce good polen.but those strains are inbreed for a reason

he picked a fight with herbal XD.doesnt know dude has an doctorate in agroculture
 
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HerbalEdu

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yea true... but i feel sorry for the kid


he is probably thinking about potatos and monsanto we dont have that in cannabis.only gmo is that famous strain.
ormaybe he thinks about strains that have been inbreed for so long that they dont produce good polen.but those strains are inbreed for a reason

he picked a fight with herbal XD.doesnt know dude has an doctorate in agroculture
not a doctorate in agriculture just enough sciency background to spot all his misinterpretations of sciency stuff he link and refer all the time.

i still not figured what point he attempted to make in another post linking a study about pollen abundance between males and induced males, that had nothing to do with the topic or what he was even saying ....
 
RegularRebel

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Well that’s one way however I can tell you first hand it’s not how feminised seeds are made on mass by commercial breeders.

It would take up way to much space doing it that way as well as costs.

nearly all the big breeders started trying to make fem seeds originally with gibberellic acid.
I know this from the conversations I used to have with them on overgrow ( back then most of them were young bucks my age )

Then they found out colidal silver worked to reverse & later on sti
Artificial as in the literal meaning, not from nature, man-made. Application of either chemical would be artificial in that sense. Would you like to describe to them how the plant reacted and how it looked after beng subjected to these chemicals?
 
amneziaHaze

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not a doctorate in agriculture just enough sciency background to spot all his misinterpretations of sciency stuff he link and refer all the time.

i still not figured what point he attempted to make in another post linking a study about pollen abundance between males and induced males, that had nothing to do with the topic or what he was even saying ....
he does that a lot he spams until somebody notices its bullshit then he just quietly leaves and stalks another tread.

i didnt know collodial silver was artifical??? isnt that just regular old silver ore just the dust after it falls on the floor.is this your attempt at getting people to explain you how the world functions you start saying stupid stuff and people come running to correct you.
 
RegularRebel

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i didnt know collodial silver was artifical??? isnt that just...
Nobody claimed colloidal silver was artificial. There seems to be an added problem of reading comprehension in your case. That's sad.

It may be of help to diagram out the sentence of your native language to help you understand what the meaning of the sentence is.

"Application of either chemical would be artificial in that sense."

Can you identify the subject of the sentence?

I will give you a hint. Often in english, the first word/s are the subject. Often, subject - verb - adverb, but this sentence is a little more complex. Give it a try.
 
RegularRebel

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"either" can you allsoo explain me what this word means?
I could, but the use of a dictionary would be more empowering. Is english your native language? Are you taking medication or have you been diagnosed with a learning problem? Are you experiencing confusion more often than normal? Slurred speech? Difficulty with language?

Maybe describe to us what you vape frequently to run your battery down?

I am beginning to worry that you may need to be examined by a medical practitioner.
 

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