Is may 1st too early to transplant outside in the midwest?

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mancorn

mancorn

Also I think the yellowing and spots are a nutrient deficiency right? I noticed it after I went a couple days without feeding. I've been trying to take care of that. Can I pull those leaves?
Yeah pull off those yellow/burned ones. They’re not coming back and not doing any good at this point.
 
DevinA95

DevinA95

I've had mine out since germination in late February. Some are flowering already, so I KNOW I put them out too early. Some are not flowering and seem to be coming along fine. Next year I'm not going to start them until at least mid-April.
I plan on starting mine later next year too. Live and learn lol
 
DevinA95

DevinA95

yeah, you could flip them now if you wanted.

I'll let an outdoor grower chime in, but you will probably be inducing flower by putting them outside now due to the reduction in light hours (DLI)
Flipping now would give me smaller yields right? I'm trying my best to maximize yields and I'm prepared to keep them in the bucket longer if I have to as long as it doesn't hurt them. One of the plants is still in the solo cup because there wasn't enough room for all to be in pots. I'm expecting it to die but maybe it won't.
 
Moe.Red

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Also I think the yellowing and spots are a nutrient deficiency right? I noticed it after I went a couple days without feeding. I've been trying to take care of that. Can I pull those leaves?
You are pretty tight in there with high walls. I'll bet your canopy is tight enough that your lower leaves are dying due to no air flow.
 
DevinA95

DevinA95

You are pretty tight in there with high walls. I'll bet your canopy is tight enough that your lower leaves are dying due to no air flow.
I have 2 120mm pc fans. One blowing in the bottom and one blowing out the top. The one you see in the picture is the top one. I've been more worried about the lower leaves getting light though.
 
DevinA95

DevinA95

I have 2 120mm pc fans. One blowing in the bottom and one blowing out the top. The one you see in the picture is the top one. I've been more worried about the lower leaves getting light though.
I have 2 120mm pc fans. One blowing in the bottom and one blowing out the top. The one you see in the picture is the top one. I've been more worried about the lower leaves getting light though.
 
mancorn

mancorn

I plan on starting mine later next year too. Live and learn lol
It’s hard to time since you’ll be using a short light schedule. All the other growers are doing 18+ hours and can tell you it takes 6 weeks to have 4 plants outgrow a 3x3 (or whatever). But if you want to do 14 hours from the get go, it takes longer, and pretty hard to get advice since not very many people are doing low hours in a tent.

I’ve had friends get their outdoor grows ripped off and restarted in July and still had decent grows. And I’ve done multiple clones from topping months old plants that caught up to the mom. So unless you’re trying to grow trees, getting out early isn’t really the bees knees. You can easily grow a 6’ by starting today.

Granted I live in a very mild climate with no frost and doesn’t start raining till October.
 
DevinA95

DevinA95

It’s hard to time since you’ll be using a short light schedule. All the other growers are doing 18+ hours and can tell you it takes 6 weeks to have 4 plants outgrow a 3x3 (or whatever). But if you want to do 14 hours from the get go, it takes longer, and pretty hard to get advice since not very many people are doing low hours in a tent.

I’ve had friends get their outdoor grows ripped off and restarted in July and still had decent grows. And I’ve done multiple clones from topping months old plants that caught up to the mom. So unless you’re trying to grow trees, getting out early isn’t really the bees knees. You can easily grow a 6’ by starting today.

Granted I live in a very mild climate with no frost and doesn’t start raining till October.
I very first started with 14/10 and someone convinced me to do 18/6 and it did make a big difference but I didn't think they would grow this fast because I'm new to this. I would've been fine to stay at 14/10 I think. I'm not in a huge hurry and willing to take the extra time if it means bigger yields. This is good to know for next year. They have all been topped and have had some training but I stopped because of the no room issue (not sure how that will affect them) I set them outside sometimes for the day to let them adjust as well. I thought I would be able to put them out sooner
 
freezeland2

freezeland2

I started with 18/6 but have slowly been trying to adjust them to outside time. I now have them at 15

I started with 18/6 but have slowly been adjusting them to match the outside light. Now they're on 15/9. Also they're not going to be near my house and hidden in woods. I will probably be checking on them a couple times a week because I dont want to be spending too much time around the area because I have to sneak in and out.

I believe it is the amount of light per 24hrs, not necessarily how many hours per day of light. They will receive a lot more light outside than you give on a 18/6 schedule. When the days get shorter and they start receiving less natural sun light per 24hrs they kick in and do their thing to flower. Could be wrong, but don’t believe so.
 
mancorn

mancorn

I believe it is the amount of light per 24hrs, not necessarily how many hours per day of light. They will receive a lot more light outside than you give on a 18/6 schedule. When the days get shorter and they start receiving less natural sun light per 24hrs they kick in and do their thing to flower. Could be wrong, but don’t believe so.
Think you’re talking about Day Light Integral (which is the amount of PAR hitting your plant in a day). But this is not what triggers short day plants into flowering. The DLI can influence root, shoot growth, branching, flower number, stem thickness, etc., - pretty much all the stuff we talk about when discussing how much light you need in a given space. But the actually trigger from the vegetation stage to the flower stage has to do with uninterrupted dark.
 
MIGrampaUSA

MIGrampaUSA

So in answer, the summer equinox is the longest day of the year and that happens June 21st, after that the days get shorter. I haven’t grow outdoors or many years but June 1st. Is about the earliest to put plants outside. Maybe someone else has a different take?
Mid Michigan here ... Memorial day is when I usually plant. Most years, that falls pretty close to June 1st. So we're of similar mind on timing.
 
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