Jackberry F3 = Only 2 females out of 35 seeds

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I got 2 females out of 35 seeds!!:sign0065: Anyone else have major issues with M/F ratios? Im so very very dissapointed and disgusted. I'm sure this is jsut a "fluke" and is not common with Sannies gear. It just sucks big time because I have NEVER gotten anywhere near this poor of a M/F ratio before and was really depending on this crop. Now I dont even want to flower out the 2 little plants because it wont even be worth the power bill for only 2 little plants..

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cannabeans

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from what i understand...

i really cant "prove" this but, i have read that enviromental conditions will affect the sex of cannabis especially when growing indoors!

heres what i remember....

lighting- hps lamps will cause more males
temps- cooler temps will cause more males
nutrients- lower amounts of nitrogen will cause more males.

im not sure if any of these factors play a roll in your problem, just somethin to think about!
 
lbezphil2005

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I got 2 females out of 35 seeds!!:sign0065: Anyone else have major issues with M/F ratios? Im so very very dissapointed and disgusted. I'm sure this is jsut a "fluke" and is not common with Sannies gear. It just sucks big time because I have NEVER gotten anywhere near this poor of a M/F ratio before and was really depending on this crop. Now I dont even want to flower out the 2 little plants because it wont even be worth the power bill for only 2 little plants..

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If I were you I'd start cloning! within 3 weeks you can have a nice little army to replace what you didn't get in the seed pack - sorry about the germ ratio, that really sucks, but I believe it has something to do with the environment they are in for that to happen - in nature a ratio like that would be detrimental to the survival of any species, so Im pretty sure the seeds didn't come that way - unless Sannie just happened to pick all the male tendancied ones and put them in your pack - another slim probability. Clone clone clone!
 
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I would clone but I dont have a seperate veg room or lights for a seperate grow area at the moment. And I doubt it was enviromental factors because i'm growing them the same way and in the same place that I grew out my last run of Grapegod and Dynamite ( Next Gen seeds ) and out of 21 seedlings I got 15 females from those seeds ( Attitude seedbank ) .. So im pretty sure its not enviromental..
 
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when i say environmental....

maybe the conditions were not spot on for the seed line you chose... im not really sure though. hope you can overcome your setback!!!!!!!
 
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you dont need a seprate veg area if you have nothing in the flower room,just veg take cuts keep stuff veggeing til cuts root keep one for a mom flower it all out..
 
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The 2 plants are already in flower.. And they are not big enough to even clone really. They only have a few small branches..I'm hoping Sannie will help me out somehow. 2 fems out of 35 seeds is just plain horrible. I had such high hopes for this strain.. I will probably pull less than 2 OZ's for all of my trouble and cash layout. So basically im going to lose around $600.00 USD when its all said and done.. The money for the seeds,soil and light bill etc.. This is just plain sickening.
 
phenotyper

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lighting- hps lamps will cause more males
temps- cooler temps will cause more males
nutrients- lower amounts of nitrogen will cause more males.

Quoted for emphasis and truth. I bet something changed in your environment and produced more males.
 
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why the hell would you put um in flower when they aint even big enough to clone, then complain bout only getting 2 ounces? sounds to me like your wasting your light and space. y not veg them another 2 weeks, take 15 cuts, then wait another 2 weeks and throw all the cuts in flower. so your a month behind, but you get 10duple the amount of return at harvest.... no brainer.
 
phenotyper

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why the hell would you put um in flower when they aint even big enough to clone, then complain bout only getting 2 ounces? sounds to me like your wasting your light and space. y not veg them another 2 weeks, take 15 cuts, then wait another 2 weeks and throw all the cuts in flower. so your a month behind, but you get 10duple the amount of return at harvest.... no brainer.

Harsh but to the point. Wondering the same thing myself. I wouldn't even waste my time.
 
cannabeans

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sexual maturity....

i was wondering how long the veg time on these plants were? did they even reach sexual maturity? there is a time in a seedlings life that is is ready to reproduce. this might have something to do with your problem too!
 
jawnroot

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You shouldn't slam the guy for his misfortune, but by the same token we all realize going into regular seed that there's a small chance all of them will turn out male. Roll of the dice.
 
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why the hell would you put um in flower when they aint even big enough to clone, then complain bout only getting 2 ounces? sounds to me like your wasting your light and space. y not veg them another 2 weeks, take 15 cuts, then wait another 2 weeks and throw all the cuts in flower. so your a month behind, but you get 10duple the amount of return at harvest.... no brainer.

This!

I dont know if Sannie will help you out considering you recieved the beans and all. honestly the probability of only 2 females is very small, I am tempted to go over my stats notes and give the exact probability but I am not that much of a dork. Shit like this is why I grow from clone, too many unknowns when growing from seed, let alone if you get some unstable genes and get a herm. Talk about loosing $600 is sickening, try having a rouge herm seed up 30k in high quality flowers! Buy seeds and make moms from tested stable genes imo. Also Sorry about your luck man!
 
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Just got my seeds I ordered from sannies today, hoping for a better experience than yours. I got chocolate rain and the jackberry x ko kush freebie
expecting for serious dankness and pretty ladies
 
Misterdirt

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Sorry to hear of your problem, KS.

Sannie remedies many growers problems, but I don't know about M/F ratios.
 
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After reading this thread, I got worried. I've been vegging 4 jackberry f3's for the last five weeks, and my preflowers are showing a 50/50 M/F ratio.

I have two definite males, with good preflower development. No doubt they're males. The other two show no preflowers at all, which usually means they are girls. I'll post again when I know for sure. I just flipped them a couple of hours ago.
 
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