Keeping track of KEEPERS

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Dunge

Dunge

EDIT: Sorry about the hashed formatting.
It looked great in the editor.

I started wondering how long I had been growing and cloning some of my girls.
I thought it might be easier to just enter the planting data into Excel.
This was not true.
But here it is anyway. (Hope the cut and paste formats readable)

Key: Full name entered when a seed line is planted the first time; additional plantings are listed by code only.

planting history code
1/4/2010 BA 1&2 from cuttings BA bag seed
1/6/2010 .1 Eldorado EL Nirvana
..................1 AK48 AK Nirvana
1/14/2011 3 CR CR bag seed
1/30/2011 3 Grapefruit Blueberry GB Chimera
..................3 F13 F13 DJ Shorts
2/15/2011 .2 GB
...................2 F13
8/26/2011 ..5 F13
9/13/2011 ..1 AK
10/22/2011 2 Purple WreckXBlue Moonshine PWxBM CanaCollective
....................2 White Fire WF OG Rascal
1/24/2012 ..2 Pre 98 Bubba Kush 98 CaliConnection
....................2 BlueberryXColeone BC CanaCollective
12/20/2011 .5 Satori S Mandala
.....................1 Pineapple Chunk fem PC Barney's Farm
.....................1 Super Lemon Haze fem SLH Greenhouse Seed
1/10/2012 ..4 S
3/5/2012 ....1 Sugar Mango Ryder fem SMR World of Seeds
....................1 Cotton Candy fem CC Delicious Seeds
....................1 Crazy Miss Hyde fem CMH Samsara Seeds
4/14/2012 ..3 Pakistan Ryder fem auto World of Seeds
....................3 Critical auto Dinafem
....................3 Haze auto Dinafem
5/15/2012 ..3 Tre Star Dawg TSD Topdog
.....................3 Alien Rock Candy ARC Alien
6/13/2012 ...2 S
.....................2 PWxBM
7/12/2012 ...4 S
......................1 Mazar x Great White Shark fem World of Seeds
......................1 Cheese G13 Labs
7/22/2012 ....6 S
1/17/2013 ....2 Skunkage TH Seeds
......................2 Wreckage TH Seeds
......................1 Burmese Kush TH Seeds
......................2 POW Hazeman
......................4 WF
......................5 Neville's Haze NH Mr. Nice
4/25/2013 ...4 NH
5/1/2013 ......2 WF
.......................2 98
5/22/2013 .....5 Sweet Tooth fem auto ST Barney's Farm
.......................1 Pineapple Express fem auto PE G13 Labs
5/23/2013 ....1 Purple Marko fem PM Female Seeds
......................1 Lemmon Kush fem LK Female Seeds
......................1 Blue Venom BV G13 Labs
......................1 Original Sour Diesel OSD CaliConnection
......................1 Tahoe OG fem TOG CaliConnection
......................1 Acapulco Gold fem AG Barney's Farm
......................1 Dr. Grinspoon DrG Barney's Farm
......................1 Vanilla Kush VK Barney's Farm
......................2 WF
......................2 98
5/3/2013 ......1 TOG
......................1 AG
......................1 VK
7/11/2013 ....3 THC Bomb fem THC Bomb Seeds
.......................1 LSD fem LSD Barney's Farm
.......................3 White WidowXSkunk reg WWXS Free Seeds

This is the result of only four seed orders and the attached free seeds.
I currently have a slug of varieties about ready to harvest for the first time. All those free seeds and a great summer overfilled my basement space.
My oldest keeper is a White fire from two years ago.
I also have a Pre 98 Bubba Kush almost that old.
And one Alien Rock Candy for 18 months.

Will any or the current room of flower make it into the future?
Some didn't survive. The competition is intense.

Let's see some lists and read some long lived keeper stories.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

Living dead girl
Oh man, I bet NCGA would be on this one already, I don't think I know anyone who keeps notes and is as organized the way he does.

I am terrible about organization, absolutely terrible. :o
 
Dunge

Dunge

My notes are pages on a clip board.
Format is: date, action, notes.
The entries are limited to planting, cutting, and harvesting with time spent in 12/12 noted.
It helps to keep it stripped down to only things that will help me with planning and keeping track of when to start looking for roots on clones.
I am ignorant of so many things, but with the farm and imported seeds, I'm doing fine.

What is NCGA?
If Seamaiden thinks I should grow it, I will grow it.
 
straydogOG

straydogOG

NCGA you about man :)

History :

the mighty mites :
Mighty Mite x ? Mix
Mighty mite x skunk f3
Mighty Mite x indica f4
MCW x ? x Mighty Mite x indica
Dutch Mighty Mite x Mighty Mite x indica

everything else in no order, most of these were gifts. Most I was never able to try, all are going to be 10-20 years old.

Kona
Holy Weed
Sensi seeds Skunk #1 (2nd gen.)
Blueberry (hemp BC)
Golden Thai x Romberry
Kush x haze
Holy Weed Crosses
T2 x Haze
Pure Oaxacan
Cal Widow
Pure haze or haze 19 (2nd gen from earlier females) (Positronics)
NL#5 x SK#1 (SSSC)
Sensi seeds Durban (2nd gen)
Beatrix Choice X Skunk #1
WARF (White Russian x Afghani #1) x G-13 (Airborne)
Blue Widow F2 (NCGA)
White Russian x Blue Widow (NC7d) (NCGA)
EWW (Ew x White Widow (Aloha 98 male) x (G-13 x 5a)
PW (Purple Warrior) Purple Hutu x G-13 (Airborne)
WW x Rom x C88
MTF (Sag) x J Herer (Soul`s)
and many more I gave away to have a good home :)
 
soserthc1

soserthc1

NCGA you about man :)

History :

the mighty mites :
Mighty Mite x ? Mix
Mighty mite x skunk f3
Mighty Mite x indica f4
MCW x ? x Mighty Mite x indica
Dutch Mighty Mite x Mighty Mite x indica

everything else in no order, most of these were gifts. Most I was never able to try, all are going to be 10-20 years old.

Kona
Holy Weed
Sensi seeds Skunk #1 (2nd gen.)
Blueberry (hemp BC)
Golden Thai x Romberry
Kush x haze
Holy Weed Crosses
T2 x Haze
Pure Oaxacan
Cal Widow
Pure haze or haze 19 (2nd gen from earlier females) (Positronics)
NL#5 x SK#1 (SSSC)
Sensi seeds Durban (2nd gen)
Beatrix Choice X Skunk #1
WARF (White Russian x Afghani #1) x G-13 (Airborne)
Blue Widow F2 (NCGA)
White Russian x Blue Widow (NC7d) (NCGA)
EWW (Ew x White Widow (Aloha 98 male) x (G-13 x 5a)
PW (Purple Warrior) Purple Hutu x G-13 (Airborne)
WW x Rom x C88
MTF (Sag) x J Herer (Soul`s)
and many more I gave away to have a good home :)



impressive list there of some old genetics - pure Oaxacon and pure Haze very nice
 
straydogOG

straydogOG

I have 18 Kona ... these are`nt from any seed company,I had 1 friend from the big island.

11 Blue Widow F2 or "Two Blue" I think is what ncga named them.

both of them are around 12-15 years old..to the best of my memory...I`m no pro at germing old beans. I did use a product once called "bacto" sold by sannies that seemed to really help ..i`m out of that. Or I guess a 12-24 hr soak in mild liquid kelp mix....a friend gave me lbs of that (dry concentrate) ... Soak in mild mix of Nitron A-35? any Tips??? I`m runnin a project now tho.. I have no room...

Before I started new beans ..I dug through this stash... and tried to germ a few in paper towel with bottled water,air temp was around 80-85 F . At first I started trying to do some of the mighty mite mix beans...I figured I have hundreds..after 3 weeks nothing... I said well those f3,f4`s looked small and light colored...Then I went for it Got 0% germ and lost all the .. G-13 x Blue Widow , Black Khyber , Ak-47 , Williams Wonder x Bubbleberry x G-13 , G-13 x Fig Widow9 . I gave it almost a month,nothing ... I could have cried , So I packed everything up again, and got drunk as hell...Kicking myself to this day ...for not useing the great gifts that were givin to me. There were just stages in life that I had no chance to grow,and time went on,I always knew hey you better do something with those soon , someday. Let this be a hard learned lesson for you folks... use it or loose it... pack your beans up in good containers,always well labeled and store in the fridge , or freezer for long term storage. Really what hurts me the most is not the fact that I dont get to grow some kind from 15 year old beans... like I cheated time. It`s the fact that I didnt use the gifts that people gave me...like getting a shirt from a good friend for christmas ,and saying how much you love it, but then putting it in the back of the closet and never wearing it.

Current : Killer Queen x Blue Hammer (4 girls ) 2 sativa phenos, 2 more indica pheno.... these are trees! I let 2 K.O. Kush F4 boys have there fun... The girls are packed and glowing :)

BSSF.... straydog ;)
 
Dunge

Dunge

Tetrazolium is a stain that will show if a seed has any life inside.
It's a destructive test, so it can only give hope when seeds are abundant.
If there is living tissue present, you might be able to stimulate germination with the addition of gibberelic acid.
 
straydogOG

straydogOG

Tetrazolium is a stain that will show if a seed has any life inside.
It's a destructive test, so it can only give hope when seeds are abundant.
If there is living tissue present, you might be able to stimulate germination with the addition of gibberelic acid.



Dunge ..tyty.. Tetrazolium I`ll pass on that but it `s a good tip thank you .... gibberellic acid on the other hand ,I actually have. 0.10% 30 ml gibberellic acid bottle. Its 3 ml to 27 ml of water... to get a solution of 100 ppm. just a note for someone else. (30ml is 1oz)

I`m going to do some control tests with different liquid soaks in paper towel ...on some of the old mighty mite beans I have...I have hundreds..there over 10 years old. I`ll see what happens and move on from there...

1 . 100ppm gibberellic acid
2. 200ppm gibberellic acid
3. liquid kelp extract
4. nitron a-35
5. nitron a-35 and liquid kelp

Dunge thanks again ..peace
 
straydogOG

straydogOG

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straydogOG

straydogOG

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KillerQueen x BlueHammer males are K.O. Kush F4

Trying to get a fungus gnat problem under control
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soserthc1

soserthc1

prob goes without saying but rub them down with some sand paper first and a little razor slit if that does not work will help if there viable ...
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

Living dead girl
Some years ago there was someone on another forum who used a mild bleach solution for germinating old beans. The problem is I can't remember how much! It was very mild, though, along the lines of what's used for water treatment. I wish I had taken note of amounts, but I honestly never thought I'd have old beans to pop. Now I do. Hrm.
 
Dunge

Dunge

EDIT: Sorry about the hashed formatting.
It looked great in the editor.

I started wondering how long I had been growing and cloning some of my girls.
I thought it might be easier to just enter the planting data into Excel.
This was not true.
But here it is anyway. (Hope the cut and paste formats readable)

Key: Full name entered when a seed line is planted the first time; additional plantings are listed by code only.

planting history code
1/4/2010 BA 1&2 from cuttings BA bag seed
1/6/2010 .1 Eldorado EL Nirvana
..................1 AK48 AK Nirvana
1/14/2011 3 CR CR bag seed
1/30/2011 3 Grapefruit Blueberry GB Chimera
..................3 F13 F13 DJ Shorts
2/15/2011 .2 GB
...................2 F13
8/26/2011 ..5 F13
9/13/2011 ..1 AK
10/22/2011 2 Purple WreckXBlue Moonshine PWxBM CanaCollective
....................2 White Fire WF OG Rascal
1/24/2012 ..2 Pre 98 Bubba Kush 98 CaliConnection
....................2 BlueberryXColeone BC CanaCollective
12/20/2011 .5 Satori S Mandala
.....................1 Pineapple Chunk fem PC Barney's Farm
.....................1 Super Lemon Haze fem SLH Greenhouse Seed
1/10/2012 ..4 S
3/5/2012 ....1 Sugar Mango Ryder fem SMR World of Seeds
....................1 Cotton Candy fem CC Delicious Seeds
....................1 Crazy Miss Hyde fem CMH Samsara Seeds
4/14/2012 ..3 Pakistan Ryder fem auto World of Seeds
....................3 Critical auto Dinafem
....................3 Haze auto Dinafem
5/15/2012 ..3 Tre Star Dawg TSD Topdog
.....................3 Alien Rock Candy ARC Alien
6/13/2012 ...2 S
.....................2 PWxBM
7/12/2012 ...4 S
......................1 Mazar x Great White Shark fem World of Seeds
......................1 Cheese G13 Labs
7/22/2012 ....6 S
1/17/2013 ....2 Skunkage TH Seeds
......................2 Wreckage TH Seeds
......................1 Burmese Kush TH Seeds
......................2 POW Hazeman
......................4 WF
......................5 Neville's Haze NH Mr. Nice
4/25/2013 ...4 NH
5/1/2013 ......2 WF
.......................2 98
5/22/2013 .....5 Sweet Tooth fem auto ST Barney's Farm
.......................1 Pineapple Express fem auto PE G13 Labs
5/23/2013 ....1 Purple Marko fem PM Female Seeds
......................1 Lemmon Kush fem LK Female Seeds
......................1 Blue Venom BV G13 Labs
......................1 Original Sour Diesel OSD CaliConnection
......................1 Tahoe OG fem TOG CaliConnection
......................1 Acapulco Gold fem AG Barney's Farm
......................1 Dr. Grinspoon DrG Barney's Farm
......................1 Vanilla Kush VK Barney's Farm
......................2 WF
......................2 98
5/3/2013 ......1 TOG
......................1 AG
......................1 VK
7/11/2013 ....3 THC Bomb fem THC Bomb Seeds
.......................1 LSD fem LSD Barney's Farm
.......................3 White WidowXSkunk reg WWXS Free Seeds

This is the result of only four seed orders and the attached free seeds.
I currently have a slug of varieties about ready to harvest for the first time. All those free seeds and a great summer overfilled my basement space.
My oldest keeper is a White fire from two years ago.
I also have a Pre 98 Bubba Kush almost that old.
And one Alien Rock Candy for 18 months.

Will any or the current room of flower make it into the future?
Some didn't survive. The competition is intense.

Let's see some lists and read some long lived keeper stories.
New seed order from Meduser yields planting update:
1/22/2014 ...2 BubbaKush X DC by Cannacopia
....................2 UBC Chemo (wide) by Woodhorse
....................2 JillyBean by TGA
....................2 DeepPurple by TGA
....................2 Rocky Mt. High by Motarebel
....................2 TrainWreck X WilliamsWonder by Motarebel

Current keepers are still Alien Rock Candy, White Fire, Bubba Kush.
Provisional keepers are THCBomb, WhiteWidow X Skunk, & BlueVenom.
This is largely the result of desirable product, favorable structure, and the plants ability to clone for me.
 
Dunge

Dunge

New seed order from Meduser yields planting update:
1/22/2014 ...2 BubbaKush X DC by Cannacopia
....................2 UBC Chemo (wide) by Woodhorse
....................2 JillyBean by TGA
....................2 DeepPurple by TGA
....................2 Rocky Mt. High by Motarebel
....................2 TrainWreck X WilliamsWonder by Motarebel

Current keepers are still Alien Rock Candy, White Fire.
Provisional keepers are THCBomb, WhiteWidow X Skunk, & BlueVenom.
This is largely the result of desirable product, favorable structure, and the plants ability to clone for me.

Did an early planting of this summers outdoor autoflowers.
One each of six different seeds.
The plan is to duplicate this tray at three week intervals just to see what happens.

1/11/2014
Sweet Tooth auto by Barney's Farm
Pineapple Express auto by Barney's Farm
Cindy Jush auto by Auto Seeds
Auto Pounder w/ Cheese by Auto Seeds
G13 Haxe auto by Free Seeds
Royal Green auto by unknown

Executive action:
Dropping all the provisional keepers, and I lost my Bubba Kush after over two years of true love.
So I compensated by planting:
Pre 98 Bubba Kush by Cali Connection
Tahoe OG by Cali Connection
BubbaKush X DC by Cannacopia

new provisionals (good cuttings of flowering plants) from the 22 Jan planting are:
Rocky Mt. High by Motarebel 1&2
TrainWreck X WilliamsWonder by Motarebel 2&4
JillyBean by TGA 1
AKX 1&3 (This is a pollen chuck that was planted by a friend and cam back to me as teens.)

My wish is to leave bread crumbs of my mmj seed sprouts, and to get others to tell of seeds they are sprouting, and cuts they are keeping.
 
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