LED/ HPS/ CMH= WTF

[Aqua Man]

Yes, I have doe all your suggestions.

And still didn't make a difference for ya? I have a HPS soil grow going and a led hydro going. I have no complaints with either but I also have as you can tell no decent way to make a good comparison.

 

[Aqua Man]

And I would also have to agree led is more well suited to sog or scrog grows.

 

[1diesel1]

And I would also have to agree led is more well suited to sog or scrog grows.

Your grows in tents?

 

[Aqua Man]

Your grows in tents?

My led/hydro/scrog is a small sealed room. Growth is really good. This is 2 weeks I don't know if pics show the time stamps.

My HPS/soil is just open room but I don't have pics because of plant limits it's at a friend's.

I don't really take many pics for reasons. The last is the equipment side of my led grow.

 

[1diesel1]

Just to clarify, my current grow is 12x14 with 8 foot ceilings. All the plants and lights are in the same 12x14 room. Lights are hanging in different areas in the room.
My current results I have posted are accurate to the best of my ability.

 

[Aqua Man]

Just to clarify, my current grow is 12x14 with 8 foot ceilings. All the plants and lights are in the same 12x14 room. Lights are hanging in different areas in the room.
My current results I have posted are accurate to the best of my ability.

In my opinion and only that... Like I said I think led is more well suited to sog and scrog style grows. I can't say for sure but I feel like if I was doing open room where my plants are reaching 5+ feet tall I would prob steer away from led also

But if you take the same room and scrog 4' rows I would probably go LED.

I think the challenge is penetration but I'm no expert. Right light for the job kinda thing.

 

[Moshmen]

Sucks it didn't work out so far. That has always been my concern with them. I'm keeping plants a lot shorter and a little less veg now so maybe it's a viable option. The main thing Im waiting to see is the longevity of these "expensive" setups. If you are only getting 2-3 years out of them think I'll continue waiting. Also would like to see what kind of die back you get after a year or so or if the spectrum shifts.

as tech moves along the price should come down. And we are keeping an eye on “ burn back” not to concerned about spectrum it’s more about intensity

 

[Moshmen]

as tech moves along the price should come down. And we are keeping an eye on “ burn back” not to concerned about spectrum it’s more about intensity

Canopy penetration def an issue!

 

[Jbum]

I built my lights for about $230 with QB boards and could not be happier with the results!

I run 4000k in the veg tent and 3000k in the flower tent.

 

[Moshmen]

I built my lights for about $230 with QB boards and could not be happier with the results!

I run 4000k in the veg tent and 3000k in the flower tent.

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Awesome lady you got there! What’s the true wattage? And just curious about the ice ?

 

[Jbum]

Awesome lady you got there! What’s the true wattage? And just curious about the ice ?

It’s basically a 600w HPS replacement. And the ice is because im in the process of flushing her out and the ice will help her push to finish. Thinking it’s cold so produce more trics and hopefully achieve these colors from like my outside harvest I have hanging just did.

 

[1diesel1]

Looks good bro!
Here’s a question for you guys.
This is a old grow room I built some years ago.
14x12 with 7 foot ceilings.
What LED capacity would it take to sufficiently flower in this room and will I get quality canopy penetration?
12 plants in 25 gallon pots
4 ton carrier package unit heat or A/C when needed.
Running co2.

 

[Aqua Man]

Looks good bro!
Here’s a question for you guys.
This is a old grow room I built some years ago.
14x12 with 7 foot ceilings.
What LED capacity would it take to sufficiently flower in this room and will I get quality canopy penetration?
12 plants in 25 gallon pots
4 ton carrier package unit heat or A/C when needed.
Running co2.View attachment 905901

I would say 50w/sq foot would be ideal. Add 10% if the LEDs are using lenses.

About 18" seems to be the sweet spot for my hlg 600.
Its 620w and I flower a 4x4 but it's also in a highly reflective area. That about 40/sq foot and I do run CO2.
I get about 70k lux at that height but I do push it to 80k and a bit closer for stretch and the first 5weeks of flower Inan 8 week strain

 

[1diesel1]

I would say 50w/sq foot would be ideal. Add 10% if the LEDs are using lenses.

About 18" seems to be the sweet spot for my hlg 600.
Its 620w and I flower a 4x4 but it's also in a highly reflective area. That about 40/sq foot and I do run CO2.
I get about 70k lux at that height but I do push it to 80k and a bit closer for stretch and the first 5weeks of flower Inan 8 week strain

But will I get quality canopy penetration for a 4-5 foot plant? If it’s at 70k-80k lux at the top of the canopy where am I at 1-2 feet below the top of the canopy?
And is it effective enough to produce?

 

[Aqua Man]

But will I get quality canopy penetration for a 4-5 foot plant? If it’s at 70k-80k lux at the top of the canopy where am I at 1-2 feet below the top of the canopy?
And is it effective enough to produce?

I wish I could answer you. I have never used my led in an open grow area or without a scrog. I would believe that if you had optimal coverage at 50w/sq foot yes. I can however take lumen readings at different heights after I get home from work for comparison if you like

 

[1diesel1]

That pic above is a 20x20 tent I used to veg in. Things a freakin monster to set up:)

 

[cemchris]

But will I get quality canopy penetration for a 4-5 foot plant? If it’s at 70k-80k lux at the top of the canopy where am I at 1-2 feet below the top of the canopy?
And is it effective enough to produce?

This is kind of what has been holding me off since I pack them in on the tables.

 

[oldskol4evr]

My led/hydro/scrog is a small sealed room. Growth is really good. This is 2 weeks I don't know if pics show the time stamps.

My HPS/soil is just open room but I don't have pics because of plant limits it's at a friend's.

I don't really take many pics for reasons. The last is the equipment side of my led grow.

freaking jelly of this room amazing bro

 

[DistyDemon]

#1 reason why I wont drop 5k on 4x new gavita 1700 or spydrX. Everyone I know hates them!

5k is. Nothing for a light upgrade if it actually performs amd recoups my investment in 2 turns.

 

[1diesel1]

What about these? Think they’ll work?