Personally I never butcher the plant after 2weeks into flower apart from maybe trim a few fan leaves back from bud sites if I can't tuck them out the way. I Top it after few weeks of veg (from seed) once there are several nodes, then take the bottom quart off a week or so later then maybe another trim before flower. Keep it simple us pot heads tend to obsess especially with a grow, it's a very durable plant and takes a lot to mess it up completely. I notice some of yous veg for ever ? Why ? Once it's a foot or more it gets flipped for me, and overall in around the 3 n half months time scale Iv Always scored my quota of 15-20 oz per M2 every time with the above methods (there's 5oz on the profile pic done in this way for eg) anyway good luck comrade :cool: