Male preflowers with pistils? Reverse Hermie?

[Blue.Skies]

Hey all! First grow. I’m learning a lot. However, just when I think I KNOW FOR SURE what I’m looking at, MJ still baffles me.

All my plants are from bag seed (so I expected males and/or females with hermaphroditic traits) germinated around 12/10/20. None of them showed what I felt to be true gender determining preflowers after 7 weeks of veg in DWC under Spider Farmer SF2000 and SF1000. They are on day 16 of 12/12. Other than my learning curve with hydro nutrients and LED lights, the only “stress” the plants received was topping and LST early in veg and one night the heater malfunctioned causing the tent to get up to 89-90 F for the 12 hour dark cycle. Otherwise the environment has always been 65-75 F and 45-60% humidity.
All of the plants now show definite female bracts with pistils. All EXCEPT Ms. Pearl here. She started growing what I thought for sure were MALE preflowers. I decided to give her a few days to be certain. But instead of her preflowers looking more like a male, pistils keep coming out of them. I see a grape like growth patterns, the male “crab claw”, crossed and not-crossed stipules, growing at the node and between the nodes,
BUT...
After a day or so from appearing, 2 little pistils keep coming out of these things. Is it naive to wait and be sure? If it is a hermie (almost seems like reverse hermie based on my reading), would it hurt to give it more time? Or am I playing Russian Roulette by not culling asap? Thank you in advance. Peace!

 

[Justlovetogrow]

Hermi mate rip it out or will seed everything

 

[Blue.Skies]

Hermi mate rip it out or will seed everything

Thank you for the quick reply! I’m literally monitoring every preflower on every plant every day. So far, instead of hardening or developing might be the right term, they keep shooting out pistils. Is it normal to have a plant look completely male (to my green eyes), but show female hermaphroditism? Does that indicate a “true hermaphrodite” or “reverse hermaphrodite” possibly?

 

[Blue.Skies]

Forgot the pics showing pistils. Like I said, I’m checking them daily, even just to see if the outer bracts split to reveal the pollen sac, but before that happens, 2 white pistols pop out of what I would’ve 100% called a pollen sac. Anywho, I’ll keep posting pics until I cull the plant to help other newbs like me.

 

[Justlovetogrow]

Forgot the pics showing pistils. Like I said, I’m checking them daily, even just to see if the outer bracts split to reveal the pollen sac, but before that happens, 2 white pistols pop out of what I would’ve 100% called a pollen sac. Anywho, I’ll keep posting pics until I cull the plant to help other newbs like me.

I wouldn’t leave it mate if it pops u won’t be happy with all the hermi seed I wouldn’t know about reverse hermi never heard of it it’s just hermi imo

 

[Mr.GreenthumbOG]

Male.
Mr.G

 

[Blue.Skies]

Male.
Mr.G

What do you make of the pistils? It definitely looked spot on exactly what I imagined a male to look like...til pistils started popping out of all those male parts. Which made me think reverse hermie due to the 90 degree night in 2nd week of flower. From what I’ve read on genetics, it would have been a good plant to breed, as it’s hermaphroditic trait is to become female when under stress. Making stress resistant females. Thanks for help.

 

[growsince79]

Forgot the pics showing pistils. Like I said, I’m checking them daily, even just to see if the outer bracts split to reveal the pollen sac, but before that happens, 2 white pistols pop out of what I would’ve 100% called a pollen sac. Anywho, I’ll keep posting pics until I cull the plant to help other newbs like me.

Natural herm kill it.

 

[Blue.Skies]

Natural herm kill it.

Shims gone and not a moment too soon. Every time I cull a plant, they refill the tent within a day. They need to just go up.

 

[growsince79]

What do you make of the pistils? It definitely looked spot on exactly what I imagined a male to look like...til pistils started popping out of all those male parts. Which made me think reverse hermie due to the 90 degree night in 2nd week of flower. From what I’ve read on genetics, it would have been a good plant to breed, as it’s hermaphroditic trait is to become female when under stress. Making stress resistant females. Thanks for help.

From what I read, it's natural herm. Reverse herm starts out totally male and changes at the end. I didn't know the pollen might be special until after I used it. I should have froze the extra.

 

[growsince79]

From what I read, it's natural herm. Reverse herm starts out totally male and changes at the end. I didn't know the pollen might be special until after I used it. I should have froze the extra.

This only started making female parts after 2 days 24 hr light while collecting pollen.

 

[mysticepipedon]

Most bag seed these days (and for the past 30 - 40 years) are the result of a female plant popping a male flower. They always have to be watched. I just don't mess with them.

Of course, there are probably at least half a dozen very famous clone-only strains that originated from bag seed, so just because I don't mess with them doesn't mean you can't find something special in them.

 

[growsince79]

Most bag seed these days (and for the past 30 - 40 years) are the result of a female plant popping a male flower. They always have to be watched. I just don't mess with them.

Of course, there are probably at least half a dozen very famous clone-only strains that originated from bag seed, so just because I don't mess with them doesn't mean you can't find something special in them.

From what I read, it's natural herm. Reverse herm starts out totally male and changes at the end. I didn't know the pollen might be special until after I used it. I should have froze the extra.

This male (reverse herm?) was from macriddle male x purple chem female. Pollen was used to breed purple chem. Seeds are now ripe and waiting their turn.

 

[Blue.Skies]

Most bag seed these days (and for the past 30 - 40 years) are the result of a female plant popping a male flower. They always have to be watched. I just don't mess with them.

Of course, there are probably at least half a dozen very famous clone-only strains that originated from bag seed, so just because I don't mess with them doesn't mean you can't find something special in them.

It’s our only option unfortunately. But the only seeds we save are from loud, sticky, good good when there’s like one or two seeds in a QP. Like form a light leak or stress mid-flower. So far the 3 girls from original 6 are ripening up nicely despite me doing everything exactly wrong before learning proper ways. One seems like she has some glue in her and another maybe some diesel. Two strains we consume a lot. Cheers

 

[zebrausa]

Thank you for the quick reply! I’m literally monitoring every preflower on every plant every day. So far, instead of hardening or developing might be the right term, they keep shooting out pistils. Is it normal to have a plant look completely male (to my green eyes), but show female hermaphroditism? Does that indicate a “true hermaphrodite” or “reverse hermaphrodite” possibly?

If you have the space, move the plant, collect the pollen then kill it. It looks like a normal male plant to me.

 

[Edinburgh]

Its a male kill it!

 

[GreyGhost]

Hi everyone could you help me out first time grower (outdoors) everything was going good until about 5 days ago I noticed slight changes in the plant Like it’s going back into vegging or herm?? But as I said first time so I’m being cautious haha.