molasses for microbials?

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ok, so im growing some grape ape clones in #2 pots with ocean forest soil... i added the recomended amount of aurora Oregonism XL about two weeks ago to boost the roots ability to absorbe nutes. i understand that the endo and ecto bacteria love molasses... does anybody else use molasses? how much and how often... is there anything better to use?
 
dextr0

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^^^Recipes for feeding your micro life.

Molasses, I use very little in my teas i say around 1tbs. I dont really measure much anymore.

Also Ive heard of people using Honey, Agave, Inulin, etc. I just think people use molasses for the convenience and price.
 
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You can use tea to water every time if you'd like,just use the base tea (EWC,molasses,kelp)
I like to give them plain water every 3rd-4th watering.If I'm using fresh/new mix such as a bag of Foxfarm,coco,perlite I'll use a little less tea at first until some of the nutes have been used up.When using a soil-less mix I'm more likely to use teas every watering.Every person I have gotten to try teas has enjoyed the results & continued to use them.Plants are much healthier.

This dude Guano has great posts there. Just a heads up. ^^^This is exactly what i do.
 
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thanks for the input dex, be sure to put it to good use. as for you mary... i have never heard of worting, but i would love to know more
 
woodsmaneh

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Molasses is great for feeding the microbes your growing, I would recommend 1/2 teaspoon to a gallon of water. I have always used 1 tablespoon but recent reading I have done leads me to believe less is more.

Benefits...

Molasses increases the amount of carbon into soil (C:N ratio) and promotes the growth of beneficial soil microorganisms.

It is an effective soluble foliar carbohydrate.

Improves the structural stability of soils by decreasing dispersion and/or slaking.

Improves soil moisture retention.

The addition of molasses to high N applications ameliorates the phytotoxic effect of discrete N application.

Source of potassium, sulfur and trace elements.

Buffers phytotoxic effects of pesticides, herbicides and mineral oil applications in cropping and pasture systems

Stimulates beneficial microbial activity by providing an excellent food source.

Enhanced microbial activity improves availability of nutrients in the soil and reduces the amount of fertilizer required.
 
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Here is some good info

Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates - b.com]Texas Plant & Soil Lab Report
The following is an article I found on molasses and its use with plants. Thought others might find it useful, I did.

“Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates”
Sugars relating to plant functions for maximum economic production.
Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc., Texas Plant & Soil Lab (Home)

Environmental factors that affect when and how much sugar to use:
a. How much nitrate is in the soil, and plant sap (petiole test).
b. Soil moisture conditions.
c. Sunlight intensity.
d. Temperature.
e. Wind
f. Fruiting stage / load
g. Growth / vigor [shade lower leaves]

The right amount at the right time can improve fruiting and produce normal
plant growth with less attraction for disease and insects.

Needed for healthy plants - fruit production - plant development &
maturity.
Roots take nutrients from the soil and transport them up the stalk thru the
petiole (stem) to the leaves where the sunlight aids the production of
photosynthates (sugars are not the ONLY product of photosynthesis)
carbohydrates (C, H & O), principally glucose (C6H12O6) and then other sugars and photosynthates are formed.

Plant Sugars and other photosynthates are first translocated (boron is essential to the translocation) to a fruiting site. If fruit is not available, the sugars, along with excess nitrates, spur the rapid vegetative growth of the plant at the expense of creating fruiting bodies (first sink) for the storage of the sugars.

Once the proper balance of environmental factors (heat units, light intensity, soil moisture, nutrient balance, etc) are met, the fruiting buds form and then fruit formation gets the first crack at the sugar supply.

Any excess sugars are then translocated to the number two sink, (growing terminals,) to speed their growth. The left-over sugars, etc. then go to the number 3 sink, (the roots,) to aid their growth. Here the new root hairs take up nutrients to help continue the cycle of sugar and other photosynthate production, fruiting, growth of terminals and roots.

ADDED SUGARS CAN AID THE PLANT IN SEVERAL WAYS:
- MOLASSES is probably the best outside source of many sugars, such as table sugar, corn syrup and several more complex sugars such as polysaccharides found in humus products.
- Sugar can be added to the soil in irrigation water, drip & pivot being the most effective.

In the soil it can:

- Feed microbes to stimulate the conversion of nitrates to the more efficient NH2 form of N to synthesize protein more directly by the plants.

- The roots can directly absorb some of the sugars into the sap stream to supplement the leaf supply to fruit where it is most needed, and ALSO directly feed the roots for continued productive growth.

- This ADDED sugar can also help initiate fruiting buds in a steady-slow
fashion while maintaining normal growth.

-EXCESSIVE amounts of ADDED SUGARS applied foliarly can shock the
plant resulting in shortened growth internodes, increased leaf maturity & initiation of excess fruiting sites. This can be a short term effect lasting only a few days.

Pollination, soil moisture, nutrient balance and sufficiency as well as adequate light for photosynthate production decide how much of the induced fruit can mature.
 
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