Mulders Chart And Soil Nutrient Interaction

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Antagonistic nutrients have a negative effect on the uptake of other nutrients. Possibly you have seen that an excess of Phosphorus (P) creates an imbalance with Iron (Fe) and Zinc (Zn)?

Some nutrients do the opposite and their presence has a positive effect on the uptake of other nutrients. These are called Stimulant Nutrients and an example of this is would be when increasing the nitrogen (N) availability to the plant, it will allow the plant to take in more magnesium (Mg) and up the demand for it. To show this we have the Mulder Chart.
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And one for minerals as well
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This graph shows us as an example that Sulfur stimulates Calcium, Molybdenum and Copper availability to the plants and how Zinc and Molybdenum both stimulate Sulfur.

Liebigs Law of Minimum Yield comes into play when you look at the whole picture and how all 14 of the essential elements for plant maximum yield.
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Here is a great link that explains some of this.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/playing-rules-biochemical-sequence-nutrient-caitlin-blackman
 
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Antagonistic nutrients have a negative effect on the uptake of other nutrients. Possibly you have seen that an excess of Phosphorus (P) creates an imbalance with Iron (Fe) and Zinc (Zn)?

Some nutrients do the opposite and their presence has a positive effect on the uptake of other nutrients. These are called Stimulant Nutrients and an example of this is would be when increasing the nitrogen (N) availability to the plant, it will allow the plant to take in more magnesium (Mg) and up the demand for it. To show this we have the Mulder Chart.
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And one for minerals as well
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This graph shows us as an example that Sulfur stimulates Calcium, Molybdenum and Copper availability to the plants and how Zinc and Molybdenum both stimulate Sulfur.

Liebigs Law of Minimum Yield comes into play when you look at the whole picture and how all 14 of the essential elements for plant maximum yield.
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Here is a great link that explains some of this.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/playing-rules-biochemical-sequence-nutrient-caitlin-blackman
Great info!!!
 
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fucken crazy cats cradle pattern lmao, getting back on topic though imho this thread should be stickied by the mods and kept as a go to thread for informing gardeners!
 
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How the hell do you make sense of those charts? I'm a reasonably intelligent guy but, with this disease and my age and maybe being so high all the damn time I am slipping a bit but, I just see a jumble of lines when I look at them.
 
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they add flourides to the public water here............drives me nuts, i wont use it anymore honestly, R/O water is free at my CO-OP.
 
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Fluoride occurs naturally in groundwater so Im thinking it wouldn't be the worst thing but I think the fluoridated water is a byproduct of aluminum (not positive.) Does an RO filter take out fluoride? .

@Papa Indica Did you read the ladies blog I linked? It may help explain a little better than I could. It is a serious mindfuck but it makes sense if you just look at one element at a time and see the symbiotic relationship that it has with others by following the lines.
 
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I put that chart in my own charts thread (in my signature line) and it was pointed out to me via PM that the chart was actually devised to help with animal nutrition.
 
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Certainly the mineral chart is not as helpful to the flower gardener as the nutrient one. @papaindica This chart shows how an excess in Potassium can help free up Mn and Fe but it decreases the availability of Ca, Mg, P, B and N and potentially give you deficiencies as a result even though it is still present in the soil..

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Antagonistic nutrients have a negative effect on the uptake of other nutrients. Possibly you have seen that an excess of Phosphorus (P) creates an imbalance with Iron (Fe) and Zinc (Zn)?
I was getting my compost tested and it was very excessive in phosphorus and I was having micronutrient problems all the time. I started using greensand for Mn and Fe but it just wasn't enough. I think that this is why the barefoot hippies compost deep rooting plants with their manure compost. I found Lambsquarter growing on my property and I started using in my compost this time around, but I'm still fairly new to the idea.
 
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