My plants are dying and no one knows why. I need help!

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Grownsince95 said:
Your well is naturally alkaline because of the Calcium and magnesium already in there. You should ditch the cal mag in my opinion.

If not, cut your dose by at least 75%
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I'll delve deeper into this to understand better. Thanks for the advice
 
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Looking at that stalk Cross section again. I don’t think you can rule Fusarium out! I don’t think you want to see any brown in there! Hope it’s Not!
 
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bili_isiro said:
I'll delve deeper into this to understand better. Thanks for the advice
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No problem I hope that helps. Well water can be tricky.

Unfortunately after taking a closer look at the video (sorry I skipped it at first) I'm now also leaning towards fusarium. I've never had it so I didn't recognize it straight away but that's a good call.

@Oldchucky post had me take a closer look and I agree.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 
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Grownsince95 said:
I just read up on the nutes your using because I wasn't that familiar and I think you're also double dosing you micronutrients like iron, Mb etc...

Both your calmag and grow formula contain a full suite of micros. I'm not sure how compatible they are together in a coco coir substrate.
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You're right man, I just read their handbook and both contain a full suite of micros. Interesting.
I use PPMJ 13-0-13 CalMag and PPMJ Grow 12-8-26 as a two-part strategy, 13-0-13 CalMag as constant part A and Grow 12-8-26 as part B when the plants are in vegetative phase.

As you said maybe I wouldn't need to be using CalMag (depending on my well water analysis).
I'll study this, I successfully completed a cycle some weeks ago doing exactly the same way I was doing with these plants, but this time I'm having extreme problems.
 
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bili_isiro said:
You're right man, I just read their handbook and both contain a full suite of micros. Interesting.
I use PPMJ 13-0-13 CalMag and PPMJ Grow 12-8-26 as a two-part strategy, 13-0-13 CalMag as constant part A and Grow 12-8-26 as part B when the plants are in vegetative phase.

As you said maybe I wouldn't need to be using CalMag (depending on my well water analysis).
I'll study this, I successfully completed a cycle some weeks ago doing exactly the same way I was doing with these plants, but this time I'm having extreme problems.
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The last thought I'll add is that the ratio of K/Ca/Mg is very important to avoid antagonisms. Ideally it should be around 3/2/1

The calmag you use on its own is very close to GH micro actually.
 
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Oldchucky said:
Looking at that stalk Cross section again. I don’t think you can rule Fusarium out! I don’t think you want to see any brown in there! Hope it’s Not!
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Yes man, maybe it is fusarium.
The very central part of the stalk was slightly brown, difficult to identify. On the picture it seems more brown than it really was due to the sunlight and shadows.

In case of fusarium, do you have any treatment in mind?
 
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Grownsince95 said:
No problem I hope that helps. Well water can be tricky.

Unfortunately after taking a closer look at the video (sorry I skipped it at first) I'm now also leaning towards fusarium. I've never had it so I didn't recognize it straight away but that's a good call.

@Oldchucky post had me take a closer look and I agree.

Good luck and keep us posted!
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Not a good news...
Do you know something that I could do to give a treatment to my plants?

I know that hydrogen peroxide can help to deal with fusarium and any other good or bad fungi or bacteria.
And add some good fungi and good bacteria in the substrate can help to control it, like bacillus, beauveria, trichoderma, etc.

Can you help with this?
 
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bili_isiro said:
Not a good news...
Do you know something that I could do to give a treatment to my plants?

I know that hydrogen peroxide can help to deal with fusarium and any other good or bad fungi or bacteria.
And add some good fungi and good bacteria in the substrate can help to control it, like bacillus, beauveria, trichoderma, etc.

Can you help with this?
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Yes all those need to be used next time as a preventative. Along with lalstop46 and 61. You gotta purge everything. Chunk the plants. Scrub down everything. New grow medium with new genetics. If you sourced those clones from somewhere, don't go back. Sorry brother, hate to be the bearer of shitty news. I've been through it, wiped me out completely. Lost strains I'd had for 15 years, because of a dirty clone off strainly.
 
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C0pperh3ad said:
Yes all those need to be used next time as a preventative. Along with lalstop46 and 61. You gotta purge everything. Chunk the plants. Scrub down everything. New grow medium with new genetics. If you sourced those clones from somewhere, don't go back. Sorry brother, hate to be the bearer of shitty news. I've been through it, wiped me out completely. Lost strains I'd had for 15 years, because of a dirty clone off strainly.
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110% what he said 👍🏻
 
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You guys are missing his genius. He just created an autodrying cannabis method. Think of the time he would have saved it he used that technique at the end of flowering.
 
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Grownsince95 said:
You are a worthless piece of shit troll. You nominated his plants for POTM because of what?
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To get this guy some equipment. He has a good chance at winning some new seeds, some drain trays (which will help avoid the salt build up in the future and they rotate!) Plus an environmental monitor he can use... or sell! I hope he wins the free stuff and grows some bad ass weed. After a hard time I think he deserves a win.
 
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bili_isiro said:
Not a good news...
Do you know something that I could do to give a treatment to my plants?

I know that hydrogen peroxide can help to deal with fusarium and any other good or bad fungi or bacteria.
And add some good fungi and good bacteria in the substrate can help to control it, like bacillus, beauveria, trichoderma, etc.

Can you help with this?
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The spray on stuff like peroxide might help with botyris! But I think it starts on the outside and eats its way in! Fusarium enters through the roots and spreads throughout the plant! Systemic! See it a lot more outdoors than indoors! Like stated above, if that’s what it is, you have to start from scratch! Square one scratch! Might even have to look at your water source and try and collect it as close to the wellhead as possible! The shit can grow in pipes and hoses! Pinning down the origins is rough! But I’ve never heard of a well itself being contaminated! But this is all just uneducated guesses! I don’t think you have much choice, but to flush the hell out of your Coco and hope salt buildup is the problem! Most of those water molds are almost always fatal! Even Bo Tyrus!
 
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Oldchucky said:
The spray on stuff like peroxide might help with botyris! But I think it starts on the outside and eats its way in! Fusarium enters through the roots and spreads throughout the plant! Systemic! See it a lot more outdoors than indoors! Like stated above, if that’s what it is, you have to start from scratch! Square one scratch! Might even have to look at your water source and try and collect it as close to the wellhead as possible! The shit can grow in pipes and hoses! Pinning down the origins is rough! But I’ve never heard of a well itself being contaminated! But this is all just uneducated guesses! I don’t think you have much choice, but to flush the hell out of your Coco and hope salt buildup is the problem! Most of those water molds are almost always fatal! Even Bo Tyrus!
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Thank you all guys, I'm going to make some changes in my watering, study the nutrients and pray that this will do the trick.
Special thanks to @Oldchucky @Grownsince95 @C0pperh3ad
 
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In all my time I’ve never seen a plant look like that from anything to do with nutrition

It really does look like a fungi disease like Fusarium wilt

witchever your going to have to sterilise everything the spores will be everywhere & they can go dormant

Trichoderma fungi is something you might want to look into I have never used it & have no idea about it at all however it’s a preventative & a beneficial fungi that is normally found in soil so I wouldn’t think adding more would be a problem however I’d would ask/ research before I used it

This might be useful

growdiaries.com

What is Fusarium and How Does It Affect Cannabis Plants

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