new desktop PC....please help!

[hubcap]

ok...

very long story short....

got a new pc.
no os.

installed winxp pro
installed drivers
internet, obviously works and i can surf and all
BUT

i cant download anything.
i cant even download from microsofts site.

i have an ethernet card and wireless router.
not sure if they working in unison, but, like stated, im here asking for help, so, im not THAT far off...

im using mozilla firefox (but even tried IE to d/l with no luck either)

now...
im on the hunch its IP/DNS or some other stupid assed setting or some firewall bullshit but ive been at it for HOURS now and sites surfed are offerring no help for a NON tekkie. aka...see: i dont know what the fuck HALF the shit youre telling me to do so as lame-mans terms step by step would be MOST appreciated and if theres anymore info you need from me please ask.

i need to rectify this asap cuz i need to d/l security updates/direct x/etc etc etc etc etc

man i hate microsoft but thats a whole nuther thread...

anyone out there network pros that can take me thru step by step and see what im doin wrong? or what fucking setting ive fuckered!

this shit is sooooooo frustrating.

-hubcap-

 

[hubcap]

when i try to go to microsoft site here


and try to d/l a spyware/malware update...

it tells me...
Failed to Connect







Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at download.microsoft.com.







Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a connection.

* Could the site be temporarily unavailable? Try again later.
* Are you unable to browse other sites? Check the computer's network connection.
* Is your computer or network protected by a firewall or proxy? Incorrect settings can interfere with Web browsing.

 

[kill-9]

Please don't tell me you installed Norton. Or it's somehow installed by default.

Otherwise, how are you connecting? Dial up? DSL? Cable?

What did you do when you installed XP for the first time? What did you do right after that?

Try to disable the WindowsXP firewall completely.

how did you download firefox?

 

[indodoja]

this has happened to me before. it was a bt downloaded os of microsoft. i played around in ie options, advanced, security er something. i thin it had something to do with active x controls. ...im not a tech geek. try resenting everything to default in options.
or try linux and run wine for all of your window needs- just say goodby to games if you do this.

 

[hubcap]

kill-9..
idk how firefox d/l but it did./.....????

and, yes, of course i JUST installed cd rom norton 360
*bracing for the info on WHY i shouldnt have...*

maaan
pcs suck

too much bs

yeah...
im trying to d/l directx v10
etc
etc

im certain its a firewall or ip setting or some shit.
but i dont remember where/how to find where/how to change the settings???!!!!

does that help?

-hubcap-

 

[kill-9]

Remove Norton, that'll solve all your problems.



I'm not gonna lie, Norton used to be a damn good program. But you know how people get when they have big money. They started not giving a shit about the quality of their product.

I know some die hard Norton users who've been using it since their inception and they've denounced it.

Norton is COMPLETE crap.

 

[bucshott]

Yes i would have to agree remove norton, Your best bet would be to go with Kaspersky's Internet Suite, Has AV and FireWall. I figure if the russians Can make viruses and stuff their AV software should be amongst the best, and so far its been A1 for me. Also i think they have a trial or something , if not get it from bestbuy for less then 20$ they have sales weekly on it.

Buc

 

[Midori]

same thing with me..but proxy will fix it... use Gpass

 

[</litz>]

firefox can't establish a connection to the server at download.microsoft.com

try using ie instead of firefox when downloading updates from microsoft..lol..what you thought microsoft would let you use firefox?

 

[kill-9]

try using ie instead of firefox when downloading updates from microsoft..lol..what you thought microsoft would let you use firefox?

You can do it with the IE switching agent with firefox.

Id recommend Comodo Personal Firewall and Avast Antivirus, both are free and definitely less of a resource hog than Kaspersky.

You already have a hardware wireless router Hubcap, that firewall is gonna block incoming attempts better than any software firewall is.

You only need to worry about stopping rogue outgoing connections, and that's what Comodo firewall is for.

Avast Antivirus is very decent, as long as you're not retarded and double click on everything you see.....and I mean that in a nice way lol.

 

[hubcap]

try using ie instead of firefox when downloading updates from microsoft..lol..what you thought microsoft would let you use firefox?

tried both

im not THAT retarded....lol/

sorry for not adding that i also tried IE


well this is all news to me about norton!
wish i woulda known before i dropped $60 on the cds!
...to add insult to injury, i coulda got kapersky suite from the dealer but wanted norton instead.
had no idea people were dissin norton.....

pcs are such a major pain in the ass!!

still cant dl tho.

dont know what it is...

maybe ill try it from behind a proxy and see if it works...


i hate new pcs cuz u gotta spend 3 days trying to remember all the stuff you gotta REdownload!


anyways

tks for the help

i hope SOMETHI?NG works!

-hubcap-

 

[hubcap]

hey!
lemme ask this....

what are the programs you have on your pc that you cant do without and why.

....pertaining to proxies/security.......

tks for all your help and support!

-hc-

 

[kill-9]

Remove Norton through the add/remove programs. Then reboot. You will be able to download things at the reboot. If you STILL can't. Sorry Hubcap, but reinstall time.

Otherwise I'd get familiar with Start > Run >CMD and type in 'ftp', then help. And figure out how to 'get' the file from ftp.symantec.com You're gonna have to figure out how to change to the correct directory using 'cd' from within ftp.

When I was on Windows XP, the best thing you could do was shut down unneeded services through

Start > Run > services.msc

I've always followed BlackViper's recommendations concerning services.msc

http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm You can tweak or modify this list to your liking of course. If you're gonna do anything, I suggest shutting down or disabling services one by one, so if anything craps out, you can just simply enable it again.

I also used WehnTrust to stop Buffer Overflow Attacks:

http://www.codeplex.com/wehntrust/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=16198

I did use Sygate Personal Firewall, but Norton bought them out. Comodo was my second pick.

I just talked to a Windows Admin friend of mine and he said that if you feel comfortable paying for something, Eeye's Blink is the best:

http://www.eeye.com/html/products/blink/

Eeye is a VERY good security company, been in the business for corporate clients for a long time, now they offer things for home users.

 

[FastForward]

Hubcap -

Sounds like a firewall problem to me, because you've got web access fine through port 80, but no FTP on port 21. Try turning it off and seeing if that fixes the problem, but make sure you turn it back on again after your test.

So let me get this straight..new pc...new OS..browsing fine...no downloads? The only other thing I can think of is you've got Vondo already (nasty virus), but that's a stretch for a brand new box.

 

[hubcap]

doubt i have vondo....
didnt look up any porn ....yet

lol

i hate pc's but i wanted to build sumthin cheap (successful...under $400..with 4gb ddr2 ram, geforce video, and a sick mobo/cpu combo)

its powerbooks from here on out for me....

kill-9
u know a good, free, downloadable proxy that can be trusted.
lil more info on comodo?

these virus geeks really bake my fucking scrod.
go out and get laid already.
fuckers.

LOL


-hubcap-

 

[Solidopc]

I thought all new computors and laptops came with vista these days. I bought a new laptop the other week with vista premium, and i think it's fantastic. It jusy installs intself. Anything you stick in the usb slot, the laptop finds the files and drivers it needs aitomatically for you over the net, so no messing with cds. I've never know anything so easy.

Only downside to it is, despite being dual core, having 3gb ram and 250bg hardrive, the graphics card isn't good enough to play the latest games like killzone and fallout 3, un less on maybe the very lowest resolution settings.

But i heard alot of people moaning about vista before i got it, and wanting xp back. I'd never go back tp xp, vista is much easier for someone whos not amazing with latops and the like.

 

[hubcap]

i didnt like it.
im the type that gets accustomed to a way....and fear any deviation, lol.

XP is fine for my needs. and i understand, kinda, how things work, but finding what i need to set, and then setting it CORRECTLY is not exactly user friendly for us less tech-savvy.

but, i still cant get d/s from microsoft but i can download just about anything else.
other sites dont let me d/l but i need to be able to bounce back and forth from microsoft...

is there a SIMPLE ping test i can run just to, maybe, see if they are even hearing me?????


-hc-

 

[kill-9]

Just do a reinstall dude, quick format. You're back in 2 hours. You're gonna be wasting more time searching for a fix. Just don't install Norton next time around, get Comodo Personal Firewall. http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/download_firewall.html

Then http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

Norton can somehow allow pings and other network tools, they just distort the filtering. It's just a bad program to have on your computer. I would try to return it, just say it simply doesnt work. If they ask you any questions just say I dont know it doesnt work so I had to reinstall windows xp. They're like cops and try to get you to say something that they can have an answer to from a script, and deny the refund or store trade-in.

If they wont allow your money back just get something else like Mcafee, they should have that for sure.

I don't think a proxy is gonna solve your problems. But try privoxy http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ijbswa/privoxy_setup-3_0_11.exe?use_mirror=superb-west

 

[hubcap]

can i ask, specifically, why you dislike norton?
my old man works DoD and swears by it...
but these are work pcs behind major security from the start....

i just might reinstall. didnt get TOO much into downloading....the codes...drivers....music....vids.....programs...argh!

tks for all your time btw..
i know all these questions get repetitive

cant we nominate you as a resident "tech guru?"

got MY vote


-hubcap-

 

[bucshott]

Yes those are both good programs kill-9, i was suggesting Kaspersky As more of a Replacement for Norton, Most people like to have something they can purchase and have the Cd of And if thats the Case then yea Kaspersky is much better then One Care, All Norton, Mcafee, AVG and all the others that are mainstream, The Router Firewall is teh best because its Hardware but most users dont know how to configure them properly so unless you know how to configure all that then softwares the easier way.

So if Cheap and Easy is what ya want go with Avast or Comodo.

Thats just my .02 Feel Free to just go with whatever you want.

buc