new grower… just got some questions

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Creepycreaturez

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Hey what up fam!
So a little update on how she’s doing
She is about ten days old from sprouting from surface of soil. She is in 100% happy frog and seems to be doing fine. I have one concern though so please let me know your opinion on it.
I think there is some kind of mold..or I don’t know at all tbh. What it this?
I try to keep RH in between 65-70% and temperature between 71-76 degrees.
Also when should I start veg? Any physical signs to look for?
 
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It looks fine me myself I would pinch the top out of it. Do you have a fan that will help. Just rake the top 1/2 “ of soil with your fingers
 
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It looks fine me myself I would pinch the top out of it. Do you have a fan that will help. Just rake the top 1/2 “ of soil with your fingers
Thanks for the advice Okay I’ll rake off the top half inch. Any idea what that is? Or why it’s there?
 
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Some kind of mold. It was in one of the soil amendments. Cause, Over watering, Keeping the soil to wet.
When starting seedlings a little extra water for a short time is not an issue. And I said a little extra. Not drowning the seedling. As your plant is now well past the seedling stage. If you want your little plants to be really happy, you must let the happy frog dry out between watering. Water only when you can stick a finger deep into the soil and it feels quite dry. Once every 2 or 3 days really. You should be transplanting into finishing pot or bag asap. She is ready.

Your question. Also when should I start veg? Any physical signs to look for?
You don't start veg. Your little plant will take great care of itself for the next 30 days maybe a little longer.
Just keep the lights down a bit for a week after transplanting then bump them up a bit.
But don't over do it. Let the plant stretch for the light a bit.

What are you planning on feeding after the happy Frog soil starts running out of gas?
 
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Thanks for the advice Okay I’ll rake off the top half inch. Any idea what that is? Or why it’s there?
Air it out like the guy says soil should dry or the top most of the time. I got a cheap 3 way tested one is moisture I bury to bottom of the pot and only water when it shows dry. I grow in soil to less watering.I am tough on them
I top top top them lol
 
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In my experience, 70% RH is the beginning of the danger zone for mold and mildew. That doesn't mean you can't run that high, but if you do, I'd want a lot of air movement. I don't think the mold in your pics is a problem for your plants.

There are a ton of ways to grow, so this is just my take, having run Happy Frog many times. If I'm in 100% Happy Frog, I water to saturation, only when the pots are very light. Both the finger test and moisture meters give you a local estimation of water content. Pot weight tells you about the water content in the whole pot. Based on the texture and thickness of your fan leaves, I suspect you're over-watered, which is easy to do when you have a small plant in a large pot. Based on your plant and pot size, I think you could easily go 10 days between full waterings. Maybe more.

With regard to transplanting, I transplant when I can't maintain three days between waterings...when the lowers droop on the fourth day, it's time. I also wait to transplant until the plant is wider, north-south and east-west, than the pot it's going into. By the time the first condition is met, the second condition is usually met.

Just what's worked for me. Good luck!
 
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Humidity of 70 is perfectly fine at this stage. You really dont have to worry about lowering Humidity till you have alot more leaves
 
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Creepycreaturez

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Some kind of mold. It was in one of the soil amendments. Cause, Over watering, Keeping the soil to wet.
When starting seedlings a little extra water for a short time is not an issue. And I said a little extra. Not drowning the seedling. As your plant is now well past the seedling stage. If you want your little plants to be really happy, you must let the happy frog dry out between watering. Water only when you can stick a finger deep into the soil and it feels quite dry. Once every 2 or 3 days really. You should be transplanting into finishing pot or bag asap. She is ready.

Your question. Also when should I start veg? Any physical signs to look for?
You don't start veg. Your little plant will take great care of itself for the next 30 days maybe a little longer.
Just keep the lights down a bit for a week after transplanting then bump them up a bit.
But don't over do it. Let the plant stretch for the light a bit.

What are you planning on feeding after the happy Frog soil starts running out of gas?
So I raked off the surface and threw it away. she had to much water hmm I watered her about 6 days ago and the soil is actually still wet. And okay she will be transplanted into a 5 gallon when her soil is almost dry.
The lights are at only 30% power and about 18inch away from her.
When I transplant her to the 5 gallon I plan to use the ocean forest soil. What do you use?
 
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Creepycreaturez

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In my experience, 70% RH is the beginning of the danger zone for mold and mildew. That doesn't mean you can't run that high, but if you do, I'd want a lot of air movement. I don't think the mold in your pics is a problem for your plants.

There are a ton of ways to grow, so this is just my take, having run Happy Frog many times. If I'm in 100% Happy Frog, I water to saturation, only when the pots are very light. Both the finger test and moisture meters give you a local estimation of water content. Pot weight tells you about the water content in the whole pot. Based on the texture and thickness of your fan leaves, I suspect you're over-watered, which is easy to do when you have a small plant in a large pot. Based on your plant and pot size, I think you could easily go 10 days between full waterings. Maybe more.

With regard to transplanting, I transplant when I can't maintain three days between waterings...when the lowers droop on the fourth day, it's time. I also wait to transplant until the plant is wider, north-south and east-west, than the pot it's going into. By the time the first condition is met, the second condition is usually met.

Just what's worked for me. Good luck!
Yeah I’m actually going on day 7 and the soil is still damp. So she is actually still good in this pot for now. I plan to use ocean forest soil next but that’s all I know to get. With soil, do I need to get extra nutrients as well? Or the soil is good enough?
 
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Yeah I’m actually going on day 7 and the soil is still damp. So she is actually still good in this pot for now. I plan to use ocean forest soil next but that’s all I know to get. With soil, do I need to get extra nutrients as well? Or the soil is good enough?
Like with most things growing-related, it depends. In a correctly-sized pot, I find that both HF and OF have three or four weeks of nutrients on board. After that, I need to either transplant or feed. I have a buddy who has done "no-feed" grows in HF and OF, transplanting a few times in veg, and then leaving enough space in the finishing pot to amend with additional soil as needed.
 
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Jeffdaman

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I simple use organic potting soil. I even dump old soil in and add some worm casting is all I do. You can micro manage and make this harder than it is. They love light and water
 
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Creepycreaturez

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okay well shoot, so after the three or four weeks when the soil has ran out of gas, that’s when Ill start adding nutrients to the water accordingly. I’ll just get the fox farm line to keep it all the same brand. Thanks for your insight brotha I was seriously lost at what to do next lol
 
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Creepycreaturez

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So a little update on the bottom of stash seed…
It’s day 15 and I think she is doing okay. I got the light at 30% at about 18 inches away from here. She is currently sitting in fox farms happy frog without any nutrients. I know the happy frog is good enough right now but is there anything else I should be giving here now? Calmag perhaps? She seems fine so I’ve just been leaving her alone tbh
I just watered her today because the soil was dry. I only watered about half of the pot because I did not want to over water her. Is it okay to have dry soil under wet soil or should I have just saturated the entire pot?
What’s next in the process lol first plant ever
Any and all input encouraged :)
 
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too dry soil also took longer to remoist, water just pass trough soil when too dry, you need a saucer under your pot when watering so the soil usually dry back a little run off within 15min to 2 hours
 
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Creepycreaturez

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too dry soil also took longer to remoist, water just pass trough soil when too dry, you need a saucer under your pot when watering so the soil usually dry back a little run off within 15min to 2 hours
So I rewatered her in the morning before work and saturated her pot. It’s been a couple hours since then and she is deffinetly getting droopy. Did I over water her ?
 
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Creepycreaturez

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she looks perfect.
its normal to droop a little after watering/feeding, let it dryback to half the saturated pot weight and only than water again.
cheers
Wudup trash! I see you around the forums a lot just dropping game. You da man!! Appreciate your advice I was going so worry all day. Phew!
 
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