New to here , trying to make a small breeding company for some really fire genetics . Looking to get my hands on some old school strains to work with

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

The comment you replied to, is in fact, the 'proper breeding' you refer to. Predefined goals, quantitative homogeny, required targets, target profiles, and more. You can have opinions on what "proper" means (to you) but the mathematics clearly show there are reasonable breeding projects which contradict your opinions of timelines required and genetic gate-keeping. The point is that the original poster seemed to take offense to the term pollen chucker. Most of us are pollen chuckers, but not in any derogatory sense. He is just as legit as half the companies these folks flock to nowadays.

Sheesh. If he did a single real stress test, or hunted by actually finishing to cured flower, then he'd be de facto better than half the companies around right now. We can be positive and turn this thread into a discussion of what proper breeding means to different folks.

I think the issue people had with OP was that he didn't touch on his role in the genetic gravity well that we are heading towards thanks to prohibition and the market forces not understanding the plant. At the end of the day, if he is telling the truth about having guided that plant to F4 - why would you want to be so reductive about his time and effort? That takes real stewardship and is the same type of work that kept the real dank around during prohibition.

I was hoping the OP who started this thread would pop back in and actually try to establish some legitimacy on this message board. I don't look for people to fail. Instead, I want people to succeed through hard work and creative thinking. However, I also know human nature. Too many will make claims they can't back up when they are in search of a handout.

As for issues with the OP? I don't have any. I simply wasn't going to take what he was saying at face value. I would rather see proof. When I saw his tent, and the few plants he actually had in his back yard? It didn't look like a farm to me. It looked more like a home grow set up to me.

Anway, peace to all of you ... enjoy! Life's too short so enjoy yours as much as you can!

 

[LeekyFarmsgenetics]

I was hoping the OP who started this thread would pop back in and actually try to establish some legitimacy on this message board. I don't look for people to fail. Instead, I want people to succeed through hard work and creative thinking. However, I also know human nature. Too many will make claims they can't back up when they are in search of a handout.

As for issues with the OP? I don't have any. I simply wasn't going to take what he was saying at face value. I would rather see proof. When I saw his tent, and the few plants he actually had in his back yard? It didn't look like a farm to me. It looked more like a home grow set up to me.

Anway, peace to all of you ... enjoy! Life's too short so enjoy yours as much as you can!

That’s where small breeding buisness start is a home setup . I didn’t claim to have anything that’s unbelievable

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

Good Lawrd. 0-100 on the first page? It’s not even hot yet

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

That’s where small breeding buisness start is a home setup . I didn’t claim to have anything that’s unbelievable

Where I live, to have a cannabis business means you have to have a state license. The grow location also has to be in an area zoned commercial. Cannabis businesses aren't allowed to operate in residential areas. You can, as a home grower, grow 12 plants at home legally. Your area might be different but those are the rules in mine. You can have a hobby in a residential area ... it can't be marketed as a business.

Welcome back. As you see, there's a lot of skepticism. I hope you understand ... Tell us more about what makes yours different than so many of the others.

 

[LeekyFarmsgenetics]

You should read the title again I said “trying to make” as in it’s not established yet as nothing is for sale. There is a long way to go this is only the beginning I’ve told you what I am currently working with and when there is more and it’s all ready people will know .

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

You should read the title again I said “trying to make” as in it’s not established yet as nothing is for sale. There is a long way to go this is only the beginning I’ve told you what I am currently working with and when there is more and it’s all ready people will know .

If you're looking for potential genetics or even ideas on how to make this work, look at SkunkReallyWorks.com and message the site owner. The breeder behind the website started out much like you, attempting to establish himself at home ... Just in his case, he has a lot more space. I've run several of his cultivars and they are very good!

 

[LeekyFarmsgenetics]

If you're looking for potential genetics or even ideas on how to make this work, look at SkunkReallyWorks.com and message the site owner. The breeder behind the website started out much like you, attempting to establish himself at home ... Just in his case, he has a lot more space. I've run several of his cultivars and they are very good!

Thank you for real . You seem to be the only one that gets it . This isn’t some short plan this is a long term goal . Right now and looking for connections and getting to know the whole other side of this I am unfamiliar with

 

[RoadKillSkunkHunt]

Thank you for real . You seem to be the only one that gets it . This isn’t some short plan this is a long term goal . Right now and looking for connections and getting to know the whole other side of this I am unfamiliar with

And my friend, Dane, would be able to provide you with a lot of tips about how to get this going. Yes, I may be skeptical, but I would also like you to succeed if you're sincere about this goal of yours.

 

[Zzzax]

An interesting thread.

I have thought that folks can make themselves valuable to future people by saving strains we have now.
I mean today's Bud-of-Month may be a strain the future people will value just 10 years from now.

Just sayin'

 

[RedSox2004]

An interesting thread.

I have thought that folks can make themselves valuable to future people by saving strains we have now.
I mean today's Bud-of-Month may be a strain the future people will value just 10 years from now.

Just sayin'

I’m an old timer that stopped smoking weed for 30 years due to a career that has zero tolerance to weed. I’m retired now, and have a very different perspective than most when it comes to today’s flower. Most of today’s flower suck donkey balls if you ask me.

My main problem is the odor and taste of skunk. Skunk is not a pleasant odor, I don’t care how potent it is..Maybe many have acquired a taste for skunk, but I just don’t like it.

The buds I smoked back in the 80’s were glorious. They smelled like perfume, sweet, citrus, pine, salt and pepper. No skunk orgy.. So, I must say coming back to weed after all this time was a huge let down for me. Fortunately there are a few strains floating around that aren’t marinating in skunk spray..

Anyway, I know this is off subject a bit, but I’m all about the old classic strains and hope breeders keep the old schools strains without skunk going strong..I could be happy for life with just one or two of those old classics done right. Forget the flavor of the month BS..thank god for Northern Lights still being around, it’s the closest I’ve found to the amazing strains I smoked in the 80s. The high is better too, I don’t care at all about THC numbers.

 

[Phyto]

I’m an old timer that stopped smoking weed for 30 years due to a career that has zero tolerance to weed. I’m retired now, and have a very different perspective than most when it comes to today’s flower. Most of today’s flower suck donkey balls if you ask me.

My main problem is the odor and taste of skunk. Skunk is not a pleasant odor, I don’t care how potent it is..Maybe many have acquired a taste for skunk, but I just don’t like it.

The buds I smoked back in the 80’s were glorious. They smelled like perfume, sweet, citrus, pine, salt and pepper. No skunk orgy.. So, I must say coming back to weed after all this time was a huge let down for me. Fortunately there are a few strains floating around that aren’t marinating in skunk spray..

Anyway, I know this is off subject a bit, but I’m all about the old classic strains and hope breeders keep the old schools strains without skunk going strong..I could be happy for life with just one or two of those old classics done right. Forget the flavor of the month BS..thank god for Northern Lights still being around, it’s the closest I’ve found to the amazing strains I smoked in the 80s. The high is better too, I don’t care at all about THC numbers.

I also had to take a 30 year break, same reason, testing, no tolerance/security clearance. I'm an old Humboldt guy from the 70's and skunk was wonderful, killer strong and you could smell it a mile off. Though it smelled like skunk, it really had a good taste/flavor. It's gone now, you can't find it anywhere, I've been up to Humboldt numerous times, hit up all the people I know who still live there, it's simply gone. I remember when Indica came on the scene. Bad pollen chucker practices have left us with plants that have hermie traits, and are not stable. At this point there's almost nothing that is pure Sativa or pure Indica. Very few want to take the time to properly select/breed quality plants. Most just want to get them to market in short order. Ialso find it interesting the way the plans are described, it's like I'm reading a wine review site, "It has overtones of blueberry and chocolate with an earthy finish", now is that pot of wine? OK, off my soapbox!

 

[RedSox2004]

I also had to take a 30 year break, same reason, testing, no tolerance/security clearance. I'm an old Humboldt guy from the 70's and skunk was wonderful, killer strong and you could smell it a mile off. Though it smelled like skunk, it really had a good taste/flavor. It's gone now, you can't find it anywhere, I've been up to Humboldt numerous times, hit up all the people I know who still live there, it's simply gone. I remember when Indica came on the scene. Bad pollen chucker practices have left us with plants that have hermie traits, and are not stable. At this point there's almost nothing that is pure Sativa or pure Indica. Very few want to take the time to properly select/breed quality plants. Most just want to get them to market in short order. Ialso find it interesting the way the plans are described, it's like I'm reading a wine review site, "It has overtones of blueberry and chocolate with an earthy finish", now is that pot of wine? OK, off my soapbox!

I gave up weed gladly for a 30 year career...It was a good move but smoking weed was a huge no no and not worth risking my job.. Sounds like we are both in similar boats, old school and coming back.

So, lets consider a good beer. It tastes like good beer. When you start adding peach, strawberries, blueberries, etc.... You are no longer tasting good beer. That's the way I view many of today's strains... Strawberry Beer? Hell, no ! There is nothing wrong with good weed tasting like good weed...

Skunk hit the streets around the same time simsemilla and Indica became a known thing to us pot heads....It was very potent, but I was not a fan. I still preferred the sweet smelling sinsemilla of the day.. And here I am now on the lookout for these magic classics...

Side note: I'm on a soap box now too, but will say that some of the "flavored beer" strains of today are pretty tasty. I just smoked a half an ounce of Strawberry Cough and it was lovely... (but low on the skunk). So, I'm open minded but still say there is nothing wrong with weed tasting like weed (minus nasty skunk)....

 

[Phyto]

I gave up weed gladly for a 30 year career...It was a good move but smoking weed was a huge no no and not worth risking my job.. Sounds like we are both in similar boats, old school and coming back.

So, lets consider a good beer. It tastes like good beer. When you start adding peach, strawberries, blueberries, etc.... You are no longer tasting good beer. That's the way I view many of today's strains... Strawberry Beer? Hell, no ! There is nothing wrong with good weed tasting like good weed...

Skunk hit the streets around the same time simsemilla and Indica became a known thing to us pot heads....It was very potent, but I was not a fan. I still preferred the sweet smelling sinsemilla of the day.. And here I am now on the lookout for these magic classics...

Side note: I'm on a soap box now too, but will say that some of the "flavored beer" strains of today are pretty tasty. I just smoked a half an ounce of Strawberry Cough and it was lovely... (but low on the skunk). So, I'm open minded but still say there is nothing wrong with weed tasting like weed (minus nasty skunk)....

Sounds like we made many of the same choices. While a 30 year break was tough, I took an early retirement (56), and have been retired more than 12 years. I’m enjoying a very good retirement check every month, and my former employer still picks up Medicare part B costs! I can basically do what I want, when I want. Hope you’re in the same boat! I don’t have any problems with many of the newer strains, other than they very much taste the same, regardless of what they call it. I’m not a huge fan of fruity tasting stuff, other than the blueberry strains. I guess my favorite right now is Sunset Sherbert.

 

[mancorn]

When I was in high school all the girls had really nice breast. You just don’t see stuff like that anymore.

 

[Zzzax]

When I was in high school all the girls had really nice breast. You just don’t see stuff like that anymore.

It was Bell Bottoms and Camel Toe for me in High School. Ear-Worm
Also I remember what Panama Red looked like growing. In Veg, long red ( I don't know what the proper name is but I call them spikes ) growing out of three week olds. That was Panama Red.
Colombian Gold was the champagne of weed in how it smoked and a lovely strain to grow in Northern California forests by babbling brooks.
We must face the facts. We are not going to have the Federal Government change the schedule on Cannabis due to international Treaties and some folks still desperate to exploit and control labor. It is not a simple case of we change our laws. We the People have to change! So this keep it in the States is what we have and will have for years to come. That way it can be legal and illegal at the same time. Legal to sell commercially and illegal for Mom and Pop to grow and consume their own (where applicable).
So, what I am saying is we (today's Cannabis People) still have to keep on keeping on as those who came before did.
I can't blame folks, especially in the poorer countries, who took what they had for free (seeds) and sold them to Ganja Entrepreneurs.
But now, It's humans that are replacing natural evolutionary pressures on Cannabis evolution now. So, are we doing the right thing? I'd say that argument is a strong argument for seed saving and handing the future people genetics.
Commercial effects are bluntly ushering cannabis to a place we know not..

Oh shit! I hadn't thought about this one in a while Cinderella 99.
I remember the Grapefruit craze and also California Orange craze..