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And it's going to get humid in there with all that water, might need to Add a dehumidifier to the equipment list...
Skip AC on this one and go with Blue labs.I have a ac industies pro ph kit in my basket. It comes with a probe, a pen, and stuff to correct the ph. Should I grab other stuff besides nutrients? Like preventive additives for the water?
I use the PA 4 site Fallponics RDWC and it's a great over built set up.So the ggt hydro setup i was looking at is a 6-5gal bucket, 35gal reservoir. I noticed there's a DIY kit from pa hydroponics follponics that has 4-13gal buckets and a 13gal res. the pa system has a 400 gph pump compared to the 250gph gorilla. pa is also $300 cheaper, much assembly acquired lol. Any thoughts?
there is no reason to try dirt or coco if you want to do hydro. its like learning to weld pipes but you are a plumber working with pvc.Thank you for your time and advice! I am wary of going hydro as I assume there's a bit more to it than soil. If it wasn't for others like amneziaHaze, I would have no clue about a ppm meter. Pretty vital so you know the concentration of nutes in the water during the different stages of growth.
You brought up a lot of good points and I appreciate all of it. As a new gardener, I should crawl b4 walking, let alone sprinting lol. My thinking though is, ultimately I want to go hydro. So if I fail spectacularly at my first, second attempt, I can dial back and for a few hundred, do soil.
Your experience and knowledge is invaluable. I really appreciate you confirming my initial apprehension of going hydro. That being said , I'm going forth with it. I would greatly appreciate any info u could give, stuff you'd expect in a "hydro 101 for dummies" book. Or links even? This is asking a lot, have to try though
I'd really like your opinion of the 2 hydro systems you would go with that I mentioned in this thread, the gorilla grow tent 6 bucket or the pa hydroponics follponics DIY 4 bucket.
You are probably spot on with your advice, and I truly do appreciate it, something I need to hear. Thank you!
My lung room is my utility room, besides the mechanical stuff I have a bunch of space and it's Oman ideal set up. I dry in my office which with the vents closed sits at about 58-62 degrees year round so it's perfect for drying. From what I understand around 68 is ideal for water and about 78 and you're pushing it.For pH and EC/PPM measurements I would go with either Bluelab or Apera.
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Where is your lung room that you can make these improvements? I'm assuming a garage?
One of the RDWC guys I talk to told me he likes to run his water temps at 72°.
Thank you! So you agree that I should dial it back and get some soil grows first b4 attempting hyI am a scientist, and I agree with this message thread. Welcome to the Farm
Thank you for taking the time to post! I also was leaning more towards the PA, more room for roots. U can email them or something asking for it to be built for the 5x5? Or I suppose just do the cheaper DIY kit, but that seems like it'd b a pain.Now that I've have time to sit down here's my opinion and what I did. It was my first grow in about a decade and my first hydro. I bought the gorilla 5x5 to allow for the extra height and how sturdy it is(don't regret at all), AC Evo 10 light which is more power than I need but full coverage for the tent(don't regret), AC 6" inline exhaust with carbon filter(don't regret), PA 4 site 13gal fallponics RDWC( regret not having Gary do custom length to perfectly center in 5x5) 4 AC oscillating fans and 2 small floor fans, additional air pump for overkill, AC humidifier in tent for veg, dehumidifer in lung room for flower, I bought cheap Amazon PH and EC/PPM meters and they work ok but I'll be upgrading to Blue labs for this. I also installed a 90 GPD RO system right in my lung room that runs to a 55gal barrel with a float valve so I always have enough RO on hand for a swap. Next to this I have another 55gal drum that I use for mixing and storing nutes in. This is a crucial part to making it easy to do water changes which are recommend every week to prevent problems. I also had a sink installed in the lung room because water management can often be over looked and if you're hauling water in and out you'll quickly ditch hydro.
For Nutes I started with Athena Blended and am switching due to the cost with weekly water changes and a system this large. I am now using jacks 3-2-1 which costs much much less than Athena.
Also often overlooked is where you will dry you buds too. If doing this in tent or your lung room you may need an air conditioner.
I do not use a water chiller and my temps have been below 74 degrees.
If starting from seeds you'll need something for propagation also.
Now that I've have time to sit down here's my opinion and what I did. It was my first grow in about a decade and my first hydro. I bought the gorilla 5x5 to allow for the extra height and how sturdy it is(don't regret at all), AC Evo 10 light which is more power than I need but full coverage for the tent(don't regret), AC 6" inline exhaust with carbon filter(don't regret), PA 4 site 13gal fallponics RDWC( regret not having Gary do custom length to perfectly center in 5x5) 4 AC oscillating fans and 2 small floor fans, additional air pump for overkill, AC humidifier in tent for veg, dehumidifer in lung room for flower, I bought cheap Amazon PH and EC/PPM meters and they work ok but I'll be upgrading to Blue labs for this. I also installed a 90 GPD RO system right in my lung room that runs to a 55gal barrel with a float valve so I always have enough RO on hand for a swap. Next to this I have another 55gal drum that I use for mixing and storing nutes in. This is a crucial part to making it easy to do water changes which are recommend every week to prevent problems. I also had a sink installed in the lung room because water management can often be over looked and if you're hauling water in and out you'll quickly ditch hydro.
For Nutes I started with Athena Blended and am switching due to the cost with weekly water changes and a system this large. I am now using jacks 3-2-1 which costs much much less than Athena.
Also often overlooked is where you will dry you buds too. If doing this in tent or your lung room you may need an air conditioner.
I do not use a water chiller and my temps have been below 74 degrees.
If starting from seeds you'll need something for propagation also.
Yeah, I think bluelab would be the way I goCheap ali express pens will work for 1 grow but second grow and the pens start giving random numbers but what do you want for 2$
When my system is full its about 46 gallons, when it comes to hydro, cleanliness is your friend and the longer you go without water changes the higher your chances are of having a problem. The water isn't going to look dirty since there isn't any dirt or organics you're putting in your system. When I drain my system the water is very clear still. Hydro is more work, more control, less bugs and pests, faster growth rate and much more expensive on the front end. I have over $4k into my lung room and tent set up.Thank you! So you agree that I should dial it back and get some soil grows first b4 attempting hy
Thank you for taking the time to post! I also was leaning more towards the PA, more room for roots. U can email them or something asking for it to be built for the 5x5? Or I suppose just do the cheaper DIY kit, but that seems like it'd b a pain.
So what I was looking at besides the PA, was the gorilla 5x5, AC 6" inline w filter, 2 AC SA fans, AC controller 69, mammoth mint 8 led, and a clone/seed tent from gorilla. Will grab a bluelab ph and ppm meters as well.
U brought up one thing that very well may sway me away from hydro, the whole weekly? water changes. The PA is what, like a 65-70gal system? I am in a small second floor apartment so draining and filling could be a bit tricky. I was under the impression you change water when it starts looking dirty, is that about a week then?! Thanks for ur input btw, glad I got on here b4 blindly just ordering some grow tent kit
That's so awesome!My lung room is my utility room, besides the mechanical stuff I have a bunch of space and it's Oman ideal set up. I dry in my office which with the vents closed sits at about 58-62 degrees year round so it's perfect for drying. From what I understand around 68 is ideal for water and about 78 and you're pushing it.
Get the Growers Toolbox. It'll have both the pH and EC/PPM pens along with calibration fluid.Yeah, I think bluelab would be the way I go
I'm in a gorilla 5x5 with the kind 750. I got a diy rdwc. You want to drop that cash you do it bro. There are hydro growers here on the farm that can help you! You gotta jump in to swim. Let's go!So I have not ever grown, am I getting into too much by doing hydro? I'm looking at getting a 5x5 gorilla tent and their hydro recirculating dwc 6 bucket setup, gorilla hydro clone/seedling tent, mammoth 8 led, and aci hvac and controller. Any advice, suggestions, or links would be greatly appreciated as I am looking at close to 3k on this purchase... thanks in advance!!
No not really, I've made a couple posts about when I was having problems created by myself. I feel like I did very poorly on my grow and I got 26oz of bid that turned out pretty good actually and another 5oz of larf.@DillyTrying2Learn you have a thread? Your setup sound very similar to what I just got going.
Nice! I was initially looking at the gorilla 5x5 hydro kit, and have since decided against it. Wasn't really feeling the 6-site or the kind in that kit. I'm extremely interested on how ur experience of doing the DIY version was. Just have to get ur own pvc and drill the holes, and save like $275 i believe? I was looking at the 13gal , 4-site version. I plan on getting the gorilla 5x5, gorilla clone/seedling tent, AC 6" inline w filter, 2 AC S6 circulation fans( maybe more?) AC controller 69, and a mammoth mint 8 led. Oh, and of course ph, ppm, nutes, and medium. I'm still debating on which way to go w on the nutes. There's the tomato one I haven't searched yet, HWGrow recipe, and Jacks that I have been considering.I'm in a gorilla 5x5 with the kind 750. I got a diy rdwc. You want to drop that cash you do it bro. There are hydro growers here on the farm that can help you! You gotta jump in to swim. Let's go!
Bro its so fun watching your grow get bigger lol i bet its 10x more fun MAKING it bigger! cant wait to see what @Skinnypuppy80 does too! Il be watching lolI'm in a gorilla 5x5 with the kind 750. I got a diy rdwc. You want to drop that cash you do it bro. There are hydro growers here on the farm that can help you! You gotta jump in to swim. Let's go!
Blue lab same shit its more precise but we dont need that much precision.and you have to calibrate it every 3 months and keep it in that liquid... more expensive.i have it works great but personally i would not buy it againYeah, I think bluelab would be the way I go