Noob reaching out. I just need to simple it back down. Week 4 flower assistance outdoor in soil grow. Liquid vs surface application.

[radrichie61]

Hi and thanks. Ok, I would like to ask for comments, again. Been reading so much ,y head is spinning. I am finishing my ms in biology and my brain is more fried than class.

I have read so much that I am ready to keep it simple as possible. First grow, outside in soil, eastern NC. Just sort of fell into this grow. Saved seeds from something I smoked. Ferm, started, blah blah and I have learned a ton. Week 4 flower I think. Could use some comments on a nice basic fall strategy for nutrients. I feel confident in managing pests, watering, and most all of it. But now as I enter this phase I do not want to F up. So here is my question but first info.

What Strain is it? No clue, from use
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? See above
How Many Plants? 3
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? Week 4 flower
Indoor or Outdoor? Outdoor
Soil or Hydro? Soil
RH of environment -average 77%
PH of Medium? Ok, somI have used a cheap chemical test of the soil. It is all I can find, made by rapid test. And just bought a probe type. Probably about 6.8-7.3
Any Pests? None so far. Live in coastal NC. Biggest pest is hurricanes.
How Often are you Watering? Usually 4-5 days a week as bed dries quickly it seems. Using my home sprinkler system. It all I have for my garden that grew from a whim. But do a simple finger feel of soil almost daily.
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used?

In the beginning Veg and through out.
Cottonseed meal, and bone meal and organic granular fertilizer from Jobes in a 3-2-1 ratio I simply followed directions perfectly.

See below for nutrient spreadsheet screenshot. Show what I have been using for early flower(ef) mid flower(my) etc. Have been following a 1-3-2 ratio since week 1, week 4 now. actual napkins, 10-30-20, and I am starting a 3-4-4 ratio of same nutes mixed in water and sprinkled on bed. I strain liquid through cheesecloth to clean.
Using Hi-yield brand cotton seed and bone meal as I said but added muriate of pot
Also use roots Microbe charge but only mixed in water, not brewed, but I got a stone and pump today.

Bed size 6x5x16” 3 plants. See pifs below. They are real close but was limited space for security?


MY QUESTIONS

I have looked at liquid fertilizers like Mother Earth 3-4-4 but not sure about using on surface in soil. I also bought a bloom booster made by”Alaska that is liquid 0-10-10.

Question,
1. In anyones opinion, should I stick with mixing dry ingredients in water and applying that way, go to surface and water in, or use a liquid nute all together?

2. Would use use Bloom booster I bought as a beginner.

3. Should I thin out/defoliate a bit on my plants? See pics below.

4. Are my nute levels too high or should I use the leaf deficiency charts everywhere on the net?

5. If I switch to liquids can I mix microbe charge in same batch as my nutes.


I am going to keep this as simple as I can moving forward as things are going well.
One last question, if you care to share, what would you be focusing on nutes and application method moving forward from current way things are.
I just want to make sure I do all I can as a beginner who is getting lucky so far.

Pics below.
overall pics
top down on a few
Underneath
Bush shots for defoliate possibility

 

[radrichie61]

Hi and thanks. Ok, I would like to ask for comments, again. Been reading so much ,y head is spinning. I am finishing my ms in biology and my brain is more fried than class.

I have read so much that I am ready to keep it simple as possible. First grow, outside in soil, eastern NC. Just sort of fell into this grow. Saved seeds from something I smoked. Ferm, started, blah blah and I have learned a ton. Week 4 flower I think. Could use some comments on a nice basic fall strategy for nutrients. I feel confident in managing pests, watering, and most all of it. But now as I enter this phase I do not want to F up. So here is my question but first info.

What Strain is it? No clue, from use
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? See above
How Many Plants? 3
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? Week 4 flower
Indoor or Outdoor? Outdoor
Soil or Hydro? Soil
RH of environment -average 77%
PH of Medium? Ok, somI have used a cheap chemical test of the soil. It is all I can find, made by rapid test. And just bought a probe type. Probably about 6.8-7.3
Any Pests? None so far. Live in coastal NC. Biggest pest is hurricanes.
How Often are you Watering? Usually 4-5 days a week as bed dries quickly it seems. Using my home sprinkler system. It all I have for my garden that grew from a whim. But do a simple finger feel of soil almost daily.
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used?

In the beginning Veg and through out.
Cottonseed meal, and bone meal and organic granular fertilizer from Jobes in a 3-2-1 ratio I simply followed directions perfectly.

See below for nutrient spreadsheet screenshot. Show what I have been using for early flower(ef) mid flower(my) etc. Have been following a 1-3-2 ratio since week 1, week 4 now. actual napkins, 10-30-20, and I am starting a 3-4-4 ratio of same nutes mixed in water and sprinkled on bed. I strain liquid through cheesecloth to clean.
Using Hi-yield brand cotton seed and bone meal as I said but added muriate of pot
Also use roots Microbe charge but only mixed in water, not brewed, but I got a stone and pump today.

Bed size 6x5x16” 3 plants. See pifs below. They are real close but was limited space for security?


MY QUESTIONS

I have looked at liquid fertilizers like Mother Earth 3-4-4 but not sure about using on surface in soil. I also bought a bloom booster made by”Alaska that is liquid 0-10-10.

Question,
1. In anyones opinion, should I stick with mixing dry ingredients in water and applying that way, go to surface and water in, or use a liquid nute all together?

2. Would use use Bloom booster I bought as a beginner.

3. Should I thin out/defoliate a bit on my plants? See pics below.

4. Are my nute levels too high or should I use the leaf deficiency charts everywhere on the net?

5. If I switch to liquids can I mix microbe charge in same batch as my nutes.


I am going to keep this as simple as I can moving forward as things are going well.
One last question, if you care to share, what would you be focusing on nutes and application method moving forward from current way things are.
I just want to make sure I do all I can as a beginner who is getting lucky so far.

Pics below.
overall pics
top down on a few
Underneath
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[radrichie61]

Oh yeah my nute sheet

 

[radrichie61]

Sorry for duplicate

 

[PK1]

i'm not a outside grower, but your plants look healthy. I'm sure a outside grower will chim in soon and give you better information.

 

[Moshmen]

Each method is viable pick one you like and go for it ! You will find what works best don’t be afraid to try different methods on different plants,

 

[radrichie61]

Each method is viable pick one you like and go for it ! You will find what works best don’t be afraid to try different methods on different plants,

Thanks. Trying liquid this time. Mother Earth 2-4-4 and maybe a bloom booster on one girl

 

[DayVids]

In my opinion i would say just stick with whatever your doing because your plants look healthy. I never grew outside but i see more seasoned growers use dry amendments or other methods that they came up with through experience but i havent seen any do a liquid feed outside. So i would say stay with dry amendments and use the liquid nutes for a temporary quick fix if your having a deficiency while you replenish that missing nutrient. If it aint broke dont fix it. This is your first grow outside. Start with a base/standard and as you continue to grow outside you'll figure out what works. The only thing im concerned about your grow is your RH at 77%. As those buds get bigger, there's a higher and higher chance of mold and thats something you cant control being outside.

 

[Vb2flat2surf]

I just recently made the opposite switch. I was always using watered in nutrients. In a year ive tried Foxfarm Trio, Tecnaflora Recipe for Sucess, FOOP, amd ChaChing... I grow both indoor and outdoor now
(will probably never grow outdoor again) in Virginia.
I switched to Guia Green top dressing at the same exact time in flower as you are in and its NIGHT AND DAY. I look at it is if its top dressed, any outdoor moisture is just doing the job for me.
Prior to making switch my plants looked good, but i knew based on growing indoor I could do way better.
Im too am a fairly new grower, 1 year, but researched for about 2 years before planting and so far i feel im getting really good results.
I do start wit0h liquid products theough day 21 before a transplant and then inteoduce the Guia Green line.
Next goal is to make super soil and have it all mixed in with my other goodies . Kepp on pushing through as yoire plants look good man. keep on chugging along

 

[radrichie61]

Thanks, but this was just a hey, I got some seeds. Let’s plant them. Not an always thing though would be fun. NC as you probably know is uptight as hell. We will be the last in the US to bend on 420 laws. Anywho, peace and thanks for the comments.