Plants driving me up the wall can't get it figured out any suggestions

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chuck88

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@capone304 how much are you feeding ?

PPM's ?

I don't think it is your lights, mine are 35 days into 12/12 and some of the tops are 8" away from a 640W LED @ 100% and no issues.

Which version of ProMix ?

I use ProMix HP, feed with Mega Crop one part, well water ~500 ppm, ~7.5ph. No ph down, no Cal/Mag. Currently @ 5g/gallon.

I usually don't measure ppm's but go roughly by their feed schedule and how the girls are responding.

When I did measure with Mega Crop one part or GH Maxi series 800 - 900 is as high as I could go....

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skuunk1

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Some cultivars are very sensitive to flushing which gives nitrogen deficiency and overwatering. Most nute problems are from too much. 6.2 pH was fine. No need to do anything. Once an overwatered plant yellows some are not going to regreen with more ferts.
 
chuck88

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Some cultivars are very sensitive to flushing which gives nitrogen deficiency and overwatering. Most nute problems are from too much. 6.2 pH was fine. No need to do anything. Once an overwatered plant yellows some are not going to regreen with more ferts.
My experience with ProMix HP is the exact opposite.

It drains very well and in the case of over feeding/nutrient lock out a flush will "reset" the medium with no adverse effects 😍

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skuunk1

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My experience with ProMix HP is the exact opposite.

It drains very well and in the case of over feeding/nutrient lock out a flush will "reset" the medium with no adverse effects 😍

Cheers
" Some cultivars..."
The nutrients you use and manner of feeding is going to make a difference too. I use a very light feed on a sativa cultivar and flushing will eff it up quick.
 
chuck88

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" Some cultivars..."
The nutrients you use and manner of feeding is going to make a difference too. I use a very light feed on a sativa cultivar and flushing will eff it up quick.
OP is also in ProMix...

And I've used a similar nutrient line, flushing is Not an Issue !

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capone304

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@capone304 how much are you feeding ?

PPM's ?

I don't think it is your lights, mine are 35 days into 12/12 and some of the tops are 8" away from a 640W LED @ 100% and no issues.

Which version of ProMix ?

I use ProMix HP, feed with Mega Crop one part, well water ~500 ppm, ~7.5ph. No ph down, no Cal/Mag. Currently @ 5g/gallon.

I usually don't measure ppm's but go roughly by their feed schedule and how the girls are responding.

When I did measure with Mega Crop one part or GH Maxi series 800 - 900 is as high as I could go....

Cheers
I have no idea the ppm I do t have a meter I was only adding 3ml of floranova grow and 2 ml of armor si when needed so I was doing a light feeding I'm using promix original garden mix in the yellow bag wil 25% castings and 25% perlite so it's pretty much promix hp with castings right? Isn't promix hp just promix with added perlite?
 
chuck88

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I have no idea the ppm I do t have a meter I was only adding 3ml of floranova grow and 2 ml of armor si when needed so I was doing a light feeding I'm using promix original garden mix in the yellow bag wil 25% castings and 25% perlite so it's pretty much promix hp with castings right? Isn't promix hp just promix with added perlite?
ProMix HP is
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss (65-75%)
  • Perlite
  • Calcitic and dolomitic limestone
  • Wetting Agent
The garden mix is
  • Canadian sphagnum peat moss
  • Peat humus
  • Compost
  • Limestone
  • Controlled release fertilizer
  • Mycorrhizae
I do not care for mediums that contain "controlled release fertilizer", I prefer to have total control !

3ml grow and 2ml armor si per what volume of water ?

Cheers
 
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ProMix HP is
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss (65-75%)
  • Perlite
  • Calcitic and dolomitic limestone
  • Wetting Agent
The garden mix is
  • Canadian sphagnum peat moss
  • Peat humus
  • Compost
  • Limestone
  • Controlled release fertilizer
  • Mycorrhizae
I do not care for mediums that contain "controlled release fertilizer", I prefer to have total control !

3ml grow and 2ml armor si per what volume of water ?

Cheers
Naw I have the organic garden mix sphagnum peat perlite wetting agent limestone and microniaze or wtf ever that shits called
 
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capone304

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ProMix HP is
  • Sphagnum Peat Moss (65-75%)
  • Perlite
  • Calcitic and dolomitic limestone
  • Wetting Agent
The garden mix is
  • Canadian sphagnum peat moss
  • Peat humus
  • Compost
  • Limestone
  • Controlled release fertilizer
  • Mycorrhizae
I do not care for mediums that contain "controlled release fertilizer", I prefer to have total control !

3ml grow and 2ml armor si per what volume of water ?

Cheers
Here is what it is and I'm using 3ml of floranova grow and 2 ml of armor si per gallon of water and now that I'm in flower it'll be 4 ml of floranova bloom and 2 ml of calmag now that I got my calimagic they didn't receive any calimagic until last week bc I didnt have any the whole grow I'm using store bought spring water and phing to 6.5 I phed my last water whuch was a flush at 7.0 bc a buddy said my soil was acidic due to ph issue next feed will get a ph 6.7ish
 
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chuck88

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Here is what it is and I'm using 3ml of floranova grow and 2 ml of armor si per gallon of water and now that I'm in flower it'll be 4 ml of floranova bloom and 2 ml of calmag now that I got my calimagic they didn't receive any calimagic until last week bc I didnt have any the whole grow I'm using store bought spring water and phing to 6.5 I phed my last water whuch was a flush at 7.0 bc a buddy said my soil was acidic due to ph issue next feed will get a ph 6.7ish
ProMix Premium Organic is

  • Sphagnum peat moss (60-70% by volume)
  • Perlite
  • Coir
  • Ground Limestone (for pH adjustment)
  • Wetting agent
  • Mycorrhizae
You do not need to ph water in with ProMix, the limestone will buffer it. My well water ppm is ~500, ph 7.5 and I use it right out of the tap.

And if you do ph your water within hours it will have been buffered.

Cal/Mag seems to be the fix it all suggestion, I do not see the need for it....

If your leaves are as yellow as they look in the picture I suspect you have been underfeeding and the droop could be a watering issue.

Your mix with coir should be watered a little earlier than with the HP version, say when the pot is 25% ?

FloraNova feed chart



Cheers
 
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capone304

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ProMix Premium Organic is

  • Sphagnum peat moss (60-70% by volume)
  • Perlite
  • Coir
  • Ground Limestone (for pH adjustment)
  • Wetting agent
  • Mycorrhizae
You do not need to ph water in with ProMix, the limestone will buffer it. My well water ppm is ~500, ph 7.5 and I use it right out of the tap.

And if you do ph your water within hours it will have been buffered.

Cal/Mag seems to be the fix it all suggestion, I do not see the need for it....

If your leaves are as yellow as they look in the picture I suspect you have been underfeeding and the droop could be a watering issue.

Your mix with coir should be watered a little earlier than with the HP version, say when the pot is 25% ?

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Updated pics from today
 
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capone304

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ProMix Premium Organic is

  • Sphagnum peat moss (60-70% by volume)
  • Perlite
  • Coir
  • Ground Limestone (for pH adjustment)
  • Wetting agent
  • Mycorrhizae
You do not need to ph water in with ProMix, the limestone will buffer it. My well water ppm is ~500, ph 7.5 and I use it right out of the tap.

And if you do ph your water within hours it will have been buffered.

Cal/Mag seems to be the fix it all suggestion, I do not see the need for it....

If your leaves are as yellow as they look in the picture I suspect you have been underfeeding and the droop could be a watering issue.

Your mix with coir should be watered a little earlier than with the HP version, say when the pot is 25% ?

View attachment 2334910


Cheers
The bottom of the plant looks amazing dark green n beautiful all the way to about 2/3 the way up the top 1/3 looks like she has aids 😂
 
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capone304

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Just a guess from an inexperienced grower. Too much light ✌️🤓
See I said this also but everyone said I was wrong I had two bloomplus xp1500s in my tent so I took one out the one above this plant and moved the other to the middle
 
Sunasun

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Too much light and looks like you underwatered sometime during veg. You need to saturate all of your medium each time, then allow dry back.
 
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Too much light and looks like you underwatered sometime during veg. You need to saturate all of your medium each time, then allow dry back.
I most def did this I even told him that I was always terrified of over water but they were growing great hell shes four foot tall n wide as a Christmas tree so I figured she was ok then all of a sudden two days went by in flower after stretch n she looked like hell still the tallest auto I've grown
 
chuck88

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See I said this also but everyone said I was wrong I had two bloomplus xp1500s in my tent so I took one out the one above this plant and moved the other to the middle
This is a Maui Wowie bud 3" from a 640w led light @ 100%, roughly the equivalent of your plant/light in a smaller area.

Day 39 of 80 MW bud 4 Dec


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