Questions on keeping Moms (and additional words to reach minimum title length)

[Observationist]

I have a small commercial grow in Oklahoma. I lost my main grower and now I am doing it myself (I used to mainly do the compliance and sales side).

You Hiring?

Lol.

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

Hiring?

Lol.

That's right, you're from Oklahoma ... I forgot that.

@mcompton1973 I'll vouch for @Observationist

He's got plenty of knowledge and experience from what I've seen on THCfarmer.

 

[Observationist]

That's right, you're from Oklahoma ... I forgot that.

@mcompton1973 I'll vouch for @Observationist

He's got plenty of knowledge and experience from what I've seen on THCfarmer.

Indeed I am......😉.......and trying to deeper that knowledge as well.

Appreciate that, MiG.

 

[RootsRuler]

I also agree for the most part. However, at least here in Michigan things are changing. You can get an advanced cultivation certificate by taking an online course ... and never having ever touched a live cannabis plant. They have the education to navigate the legal grow environment with zero actual skills or even hands on experience growing it.

I would think that for an ongoing concern like his he started out with someone that was at least competent and knowledgeable about growing.

Maybe the MG got a better offer at another facility?

 

[MIGrampaUSA]

I would think that for an ongoing concern like his he started out with someone that was at least competent and knowledgeable about growing.

Maybe the MG got a better offer at another facility?

Anything is possible I suppose. At least with my generation, it would be extremely rare for someone to leave without some kind of notice ... and at my age? It's usually a retirement notice, lol.

That's not to say that everyone handles things that way.

 

[Observationist]

I also agree for the most part. However, at least here in Michigan things are changing. You can get an advanced cultivation certificate by taking an online course ... and never having ever touched a live cannabis plant. They have the education to navigate the legal grow environment with zero actual skills or even hands on experience growing it.

Oh that's some bullshit, lol

Ive been studying/growing/experimenting with plants for about 3 years now (lol) don't take this too seriously)

Where's my cert

 

[Observationist]

First off, I disagree with the idea of training the moms. I would pull the branches out and down to force the shoots from the branches to grow straight up. This alone allows for many more usable clone cuts. Here's an example:

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Second, you can take new cuttings from the plants you currently have and grow those into your new moms. You can flip the moms to 12/12 and grow them out if you like. The new moms will take up much less room and allow you to easily switch into soil with the newly rooted clones.

The plant in the picture above produced 48 clones before I flipped and flowered her. Of those 48 clones, I kept 24 and gave 24 away.

Third, the yellowing you spoke of could be any combination of over/under watering, magnesium/calcium issues and so on. It's a sign that your previous cultivation specialist wasn't all that great at keeping the plants healthy. This doesn't mean that you can't get those moms healthy because you can. The question is ... is it worth the effort? It would take 6-8 weeks to bring a plant from seed to producing cuts like the plant in my picture above. You can clone new cuttings in about 10 days and work from there to get your cuttings healthy.

I agree with this 100%

Definitely train your moms what's the point? Wouldn't you want a thick bush mom with stems bigger then toothpicks to take clones from?

 

[Observationist]

I wont get into all the details (unless you need them) but long story short I have a small commercial grow

in oklahoma

🧐

I lost my main grower and now I am doing it myself (I used to mainly do the compliance and sales side).

I have 16 moms.

Curious as well but understand if not wanting to disclose.

I dont think the way he was handling the moms was right and I need to start from scratch I believe.

Why do you think that? Curious.

If we could see these..

 

[GrowHobo]

No training, just keep taking the tops off the plants and don't change the soil of the Mothers you have now. If you want a new soil mix then grow the new cuttings in the mix you want. Most clones do best if they are rooted in the same substrate as their mothers because of the Mother's adaptation is passed on to the clones. IF you switch substrates you may need to use a mix of 50/50 of the coco to the new mix for the clones to adapt to the new substrate.

This is bull shit. Clones from moms in soil always root better. Moms in coco grow faster are higher maintenance and often have hollow stems.