Re-gen poorly grown?

[sgt. schultz]

Using questionable soiless medium (double ground pine bark, usually PM but had to settle) and ran out of nutes which I replaced with MG type fert 3 or 4 weeks into 70 day strains. Plants were super stressed til a couple hermied and pollinated all. Have 1 super pheno that far exceded quality and production of the rest but still grown very poorly and not up to potential. If I re-gen it will the clones have the original potential or are they doomed to under achieve because of the mistreatment already endured? If I should re-gen how much should I leave when chopping? Can anybody give me a pic of a plant after you have harvested and sent to re-gen to go by? Should I cut down to a few nodes from bottom or harvest buds and leave full plant with a little greenery on each branch. Peace, sarge.

 

[Jalisco Kid]

Whats up sarge? You keep this up and you are going to be known as Dr. Mengele. It takes some time to reveg a plant,plus a little luck.The genetics are there you just need to treat her better next time. What strain is it? I just spent 6 weeks babying a Kashmir Kush. I have about 5 shoots coming out now. I even got some clones off her,just stuck 1.5" buds in some coir.Give my primo a call for some more seeds. I just spoke with him this week. I will try to show you my plant tomorrow.
You need to get some easy nutes like H&G AF or Canna. Then get some 10 gal containers fill it with 50/50 coir chunky perlite. Get a grow in before summer hits. Suerte JK

 

[altitudefarmer]

Re-gen usually lame

This is an AK-47 that was a mother for over a year. She started to flower due to low light conditions (?) (corrected with t5s) in my veg closet, and I put her under the big lights about two weeks before I switched to 12/12. She developed spiral leaves and threw 1-blade leaves, then 3-blades, but never back to 5 or more. This is typical of plants who get confused. I'll be getting about 1/4 of the yield I'd have gotten if she'd been uninterrupted. The only reason I didn't cull her was because she's the last of a good AK cut in my spot, and she'll be good head stash for a patient who isn't as sick of AK as the rest of us... I'll post some better pics tomorrow if you like. She also went through a crazy pH flux that I can't explain. It's corrected, but damage done... I believe she is also pretty rootbound... But in any case, she's flushed and almost ready for chop chop. Peace

 

[sgt. schultz]

"Whats up sarge? You keep this up and you are going to be known as Dr. Mengele."

LMAO JK. The strain is one of your mystery strains out of 3 I ran. With the crap pine bark medium and run out of nutes 1 of them is monster with 8-10 huge buds with no co2. Clearly the best of 12 fems. Want to definitely keep for a mother. Would love and greatly appreciate pics of re-genned if you don't mind. Time no biggie for future as I can stick to edge of veg room. Would like to have it ready to begin cloning next winter. Gonna do what I can rest of winter and spring and hope for killer season next year. Got 1 more batch of yours 75 days in veg gonna flower next 5 days and hope to finish with better results by May. Tax refund has me limited budget to improve May harvest. Already ordered GH 3 part plus Kool Bloom and thinking about making 3hr round trip for more PM. Will order H&G AF or Canna soon and use next. Want to try your 50/50 coir mix and chunky perlite in at least half of new pots but not available in Bible belt. How much of the coir and what kind do you suggest do I need to order to fill 10g pots with 50% chunky perlite? Glad to here you spoke with Croc. Miss him really. He's a great guy. I will try and talk with him this week as I do need new beans since Reef ganked me. Send as many as possible and label if possible.Tell Croc I said hi if you speak to him before I do. Suerte.

 

[sgt. schultz]

Thanks AF. Would definitely like more pics if you re-genned it to see your trimming technique.

 

[Herbiraptor]

Hi Sarge,

Have you ever checked the ph of your runoff from the ground pine bark?

I've never used it myself but I know from past experience that growing around pine trees usually runs into problems as the soil is too acidic. I think you might be better off with an organic potting mix and add 40% perlite.

I've also read here that coir can be a bit tricky compared to potting soil. I know people who are new to growing who have used the hydroponic nutes in potting soil with good results.

 

[Jalisco Kid]

Coir is much easier then potting soil to grow in. Tell my primo to give you some old seeds of mine. He has some new stuff I was going to oil because of a hermi last year. While I was in mexico last year from my monitors I saw where my room got down to 39*(in socal by the ocean ?)When I got home on branch was touching a wall to the outside I went to check it out the buds and a pollen cloud went everywhere. It was a pheno from a cross that made my seaberry,really fuelish. I pulled it that day and gave it to a friend.It was 6 weeks into a 10 week flower. I later found out that was some damn strong herb and only @ 6 weeks. When I get home I am going to have one of my tios run all my seeds I have but I will really keep an eye on that c4 cross.Those seeds might be good for a slow boat ride in your swamps.I would not want to breed with them. I bet he has about 2000 seeds easy.
I am not a regen guy but I believe you should drop your feed down to 300ppm and under 24 hrs for a few weeks. At about 3 weeks I gave her some aminos and a product called radifarm. 10 days later my shoots started.I have her now under 18 hrs. Still in the 300ppms,in the next couple of days I will take her up to 500.She(Kashmir Kush) is one of the reasons I am not in Mex yet. I will have her cloned out shortly.
Gh is fine. I just want you to use a simple nute line. I can not believe you guys do not have any coir back there. But I guess I can believe it. I drove through parts around 5oo miles of you and I thought I was in a different country compared to cali. Call an ag supply and ask if they have some or can order some. Get a cab and go to a hydro store in your capital.I'll post a pic by the end of the day.JK

 

[altitudefarmer]

Sorry, guys, I misunderstood- this AK lady wasn't flowered out and recycled; she slipped into flowering in a darker corner of my veg room. She continued to flower for about 10 days, in my best estimation, and then I put her under bigger lights (18hr cycle) for about a week. Just as she started to get beck into veg, I flipped the lights to 12/12. She was totally confused, and now that she knows what's expected, she doesn't have the vigor to really produce. Believe me, I don't do this to my girls very often; I had to prioritize in order to make room for new strain mothers. She had to take one for the team so the whole crop didn't suffer. The 3/4 ounce that she does produce ought to be pretty solid; this cut of AK has provided me with stellar nugs for a while now. But good AK is everywhere in the Springs, and trimming it any more makes me half nauseated because it's so cherry-sweet and potent! Good luck with you re-gen mission, Sgt. JK can guide you through the process, he knows his sh!t. Peace