Running into Late Stage Veg Issues

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So this is my second indoor crop i've always done outdoor crops which is a cake walk compared to this. My issue both runs have came in late stage veg im using a mixture of Mothers Earth Groundswell and Fox Farm Ocean Forest for my soil I havent used anything for nutrients yet I've only used Recharge. My PH has been at 6.3 going in and things have been going beautifully up until now both my plants are starting to struggle it looks to be an under/over watering problems but ive been giving less water during feed and paying close attention when its drying out and needs water google and self diagnosing hasnt got me very far so i was just hoping someone had some might be able to point me in the right direction. Its been slow growth for a week or so now and has lost almost all traction for growth what is growing is small and lacks the vigor it once had.
 
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This may be an under watering issue.

Cloth pots seem to lead people to under water. When the soil is dry, water can quickly be seen dribbling out the sides, so people tend to just water the center. When you water, all the soil should be damp when you're done — including the sides and the fabric, itself.

Get a pan slightly larger than the base of that pot. Add water from both the bottom, in the pan, and the top, until it's thoroughly watered. Then wait until the pot is light again, several days later, and repeat.

Roots will ignore dry soil. If the entire pot of soil isn't moist, you have a big plant in a small pot, and soil is going to waste.

BTW, I use both hard-sided and cloth pots. I find I use all the hard-sided ones before digging into the soft ones. I've never noticed a benefit to the plants, using one over the other.
 
LexLuthor

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Definitely an irrigation issue. How much have you been watering the plant and how often, also, what size container is it?
 
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Its a 5 gallon pot im watering about every 3-4 days with 2 quarts of water I thought maybe underwatering at one point so I upped it to a gallon of just straight PH'd water and the leaves drooped afterwards so i though maybe i overwatered at that point and went back down to the 2. The first picture was taken on the 23rd and now its a droopy mess like i said.
 
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PaNiKk

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Its a 5 gallon pot im watering about every 3-4 days with 2 quarts of water I thought maybe underwatering at one point so I upped it to a gallon of just straight PH'd water and the leaves drooped afterwards so i though maybe i overwatered at that point and went back down to the 2. The first picture was taken on the 23rd and now its a droopy mess like i said.
Same plant 3 days later this is the bad one out of the two thought about just letting it finish up outdoors but its raining all week.
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LexLuthor

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Over watering is when you water too often, not too much at one time. Did you ever get runoff when you water??
 
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Are you feeling how heavy the buckets are to determine when to water? If it's under-watering, I'd give them a good drink and they should perk up in no time. If you watered them and they remain droopy, chances are you over-watered them and need to let them dry out.
 
LexLuthor

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I think the problem is both, this can happen when you don't water enough, so some of the soil is saturated and other parts are dry. This continues every time you water it will go to the area that is moist and the dry areas become hydrophobic, which makes the problem worse and worse every time you irrigate without using enough water.

This will cause it to droop because of underwatering. Then you water more, but that causes it to overwater in certain areas which will make it droop, too. So the roots are probably very unhealthy because some of it is oversaturated and other parts undersaturated.

I don't know exactly how to fix this, but it's important to make sure 100% of the soil is saturated every time you irrigate. Then you give a proper dry back before the next irrigation.
 
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I always liken droop from underwatering to a deflated tire. The plant will look absolutely limp.
 
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Same plant 3 days later this is the bad one out of the two thought about just letting it finish up outdoors but its raining all week. View attachment 1139784
that to me looks like watering too frequently, also the whiteish leaf tips is a sign of the watering practices or the beginning of light stress,
just pick it up it should feel a lot lighter than you would expect if dry.
or you have the beginning of possibly a pest issue from going in and out..
your probably stressing her out by moving her around etc..
 

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