Schwifty grows under ViparSpectra KS3000 // OGKB x Okie from Tenguseed Co

[Grower1974]

I feel like defoliation is like flushing, some people do it some people don’t and it’s a hot debate. Check out my Frostette (Grape Crème Cake x Okie journal. I tested pretty heavy on defoliation in that grow, and it was one of my best.

All I can say is, you only have to have one seeded tent to think twice about prevention! If it’s overshadowed with no chance of seeing light, it’s going bye bye. With 4 plants in a 3x3 I’ve gotten it to a height where anything below first net is going bye bye. At that point, any large fan leaves in the middle of the two will get removed, but I’m not removing the bud site particularly so it will start produce buds and reduce larf. Just my process, but everyone has their own :)

I'd say, if you can pull over 10 zips out of that 3X3 with just the severely underrated KS-3000, its still going to be a super success! IMO anyway. Your chances are pretty good.

 

[Rama777]

Not a fan of KS-3000?

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

So what you’re saying is you feel that you are reducing hermie flowers that would otherwise potentially occur down low because of the heavy shade?

Correct, with regular photo seeds you don’t have to worry as much. Fem seeds you don’t want to stress, and ScroG creates stress. Hermie flowers tend to form on the lowers and shaded areas of the plants in my experience.

 

[Grower1974]

Not a fan of KS-3000?

Who?

 

[Captspaulding]

Correct, with regular photo seeds you don’t have to worry as much. Fem seeds you don’t want to stress, and ScroG creates stress. Hermie flowers tend to form on the lowers and shaded areas of the plants in my experience.

Spoken like a true Jedi.

 

[Rama777]

Sorry I misread you. You said underrated not overrated ;)

I’m using an HPS right now but will be getting an LED when the weather warms. Was planning on the KS-3000

 

[Rama777]

Not questioning your process or anything, but just asking, isn’t defoliating high stress? If the goal with feminized is to avoid stress, then why defoliate heavily? I already know the answer, which is to avoid bud sites going hermie down low..

So is the moral of the story that in your experience, defoliation stress is less of a potential culprit as would be heavily shaded bud sites?

 

[Grower1974]

Sorry I misread you. You said underrated not overrated ;)

I’m using an HPS right now but will be getting an LED when the weather warms. Was planning on the KS-3000

The KS series are as good as the "best" bar style lighting fixtures out there. The efficiency, LED spacing/placement, light spectrum, diode quality etc, are perfect. If these were marketed by a USA company, the cost would be $500 for the KS-3000 and $800 for the KS-5000 based on specs and overall performance.

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

Not questioning your process or anything, but just asking, isn’t defoliating high stress? If the goal with feminized is to avoid stress, then why defoliate heavily? I already know the answer, which is to avoid bud sites going hermie down low..

So is the moral of the story that in your experience, defoliation stress is less of a potential culprit as would be heavily shaded bud sites?

Yes defoliation is stressful, there’s no doubt about that. Some growers (myself included) defoliate on day 7-21 of flip. Whether it’s to open air flow, open bud sites to light, pest prevention, or to prevent hermie sites. There’s a lot of reasons people defoliate and I’ve yet to experience anything detrimental that would steer me away from doing it. Hermie flowers from my experience and what I’ve been told, usually show their face by day 21 of flip. If I see any nanners after my defoliation process, I’ll just rip any nanners, but yet to experience that.

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

The KS series are as good as the "best" bar style lighting fixtures out there. The efficiency, LED spacing/placement, light spectrum, diode quality etc, are perfect. If these were marketed by a USA company, the cost would be $500 for the KS-3000 and $800 for the KS-5000 based on specs and overall performance.

Truer words have never been spoken! This is an underrated light and I absolutely love mine!! I’m not sure @ViparSpectra has been, but hope y’all are ok!

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

Spoken like a true Jedi.

These are not the nanners you are looking for

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

This was my Stardawg and Blueberry x White Widow grow and I didn’t defoliate. I never inspected and never cleaned up, and everything in the lowers that were bunched up and not exposed to light ended up hermie and seeding the entire tent. Still had some great smoke and have over 100 seeds

 

[Grower1974]

"I am Groot!"

 

[Leoman]

All this hermie talk has me so paranoid. I'll be checking for nanners and balls every hour. lol

 

[Captspaulding]

All this hermie talk has me so paranoid. I'll be checking for nanners and balls every hour. lol

It’s part of the process with fems. Banks and their stability claims make it a crap shoot. Some are legit. Others are the plague.

you want rock solid genetics. Do a reg run.
It’s not as much of a pain as you might think.

 

[Leoman]

It’s part of the process with fems. Banks and their stability claims make it a crap shoot. Some are legit. Others are the plague.

you want rock solid genetics. Do a reg run.
It’s not as much of a pain as you might think.

I've done reg before (whatever was in the bottom of the bag) since that's all I knew about. It wasn't bad after IDing the males but figured fem would save some time and prevent having too many plants. The breeders are reputable so staying positive.

 

[Trustfall]

Here’s what @SchwiftyGrower is headed into ogkb x okie

 

[Dadman86]

It’s part of the process with fems. Banks and their stability claims make it a crap shoot. Some are legit. Others are the plague.

you want rock solid genetics. Do a reg run.
It’s not as much of a pain as you might think.

I see the reg seeds are way cheaper. Do you need a whole separate set up for the males than. Room light fans humidifier everything.

 

[Leoman]

I see the reg seeds are way cheaper. Do you need a whole separate set up for the males than. Room light fans humidifier everything.

You just throw the males out unless you're trying to get more seeds.

 

[Dadman86]

You just throw the males out unless you're trying to get more seeds.

Ok I thought you had to keep them and grow them until they man budded. I was looking at reg seeds a lot cheaper. First I'm gonna learn how to grow. I still haven't made it past five weeks. I was just curious.