Shady's Moment of Clarity... Under Current: Cultured Solutions

[RollinEndough]

Hey, bro, looks like the start of another good show. May the force be with you to make some fat dough.

 

[hogan400]

Shady, Im finishing week 1 of bloom and my ppms on a 500scale are at 475 and seems as if they could go higher? My ph is jumping up as expected and I see that the pretty labels on yours show it at 300 week 1, and 400 week 2? I

 

[hogan400]

I wonder if I should raise the feed levels more since the ph is jumping up? Im running co2 around 1200 and the ladies seem happy...?

 

[Shady]

Looking forward to the show.

Thx sdgrower! Hope to see more of your work in the blue buckets...

Looks like another Supreme garden party,SWEET!

Gracias mi amigo!

Nice lineup.. better believe Im down to Step In The Arena with Shady.. Count me in...

Right on my man! These sexy soil girls are gettin' cleaned up for the show...

Shady, do you see any difference in smoke quality between the 3 sytles? If so which do you prefer?

Honestly, I don't see much difference between the 3 styles if all are dialed-in properly, finished with a proper flush, and slow cured to perfection. They each have their pros and cons with respect to cost of equipment, mediums, nutrients, and time required to hand water or change reservoirs...

Shady you devil, looking so pro. I'm pulling up a chair and taking notes.

Many thanks... You are too kind my friend! Actually, I'm taking notes whenever you post them around the Farm...

Super clean setup as usual Shady, can't wait to see it all play out...

Thx Dz1PnK! I'm really excited to see how things turn out as well since I haven't run any of these cuts before...

Looking good Shady, very tidy. Over a lb with a 600 is doing pretty well if you ask me. I hope everything is going sweet for you and yours, take care

mal

Thx mal! Hope all is well with you, your garden, and family too...

looks great man. Thanks for the pics.

Peace,


Ham

Thx Ham! I'm very close to finally upgrading to a DSLR soon, so the eye candy will be much sweeter...

Looks good Shady
Nice and clean as always.

Thx for the props smokie! How are things looking in your garden? Hope to see more of your progress...

Yeah Boy!! Looking good my man!!!! Got a tight operation going there, girls look Super healthy all the way around!!! Your Gonna love that S1 7 bro, stand back! Woot!!! Ill be lurking bro! :D

Ahh Jigga! I'm standing way back brutha! Shit is gonna be poppin' off pretty soon... Once again, I can't thank you enough for all that you have done...

looking good man... looking forward to the show :joint:

Whaddup opt1c! It feels good to be bubbling in the blue buckets again... Looking forward to more of your root porn...

Bangin.... man.... bangin!

Thx buddy! I can't wait to fire up the automated DTW coco setup again... These cuts should be poppin' out roots any day now...

Awesome! Gonna be a Shady Production for sure! Lookin great Shady, as always. Gonna be killer thread.

My man M.S.T.! Glad to have you on board... Thx for the support!

ill be lurkin for sure really nice to have all of those different styles. im sure its alot of work but its worth it. good lineup.

Thx deep buddy! Each style has taught me a lot, and helped me to refine my ability to listen to my plants...

I'll be subbed for the show, shady- you have lots of good threads so far, I'm takin' notes...

Thx bud! I'm taking lots of notes as well... Makes things easier to keep on point...

Hey, bro, looks like the start of another good show. May the force be with you to make some fat dough.

For sheezy my neezy! I'm thinking of colas and chips for the party... Thx for rollin' by...

Shady, Im finishing week 1 of bloom and my ppms on a 500scale are at 475 and seems as if they could go higher? My ph is jumping up as expected and I see that the pretty labels on yours show it at 300 week 1, and 400 week 2? I wonder if I should raise the feed levels more since the ph is jumping up? Im running co2 around 1200 and the ladies seem happy...?

Hmmm... The CS nutrient chart represents the amounts based on 0 ppm RO water; therefore you should add PPM's from tap water or CalMag to those numbers. For example, I'm about 60 PPM at 0.5 conversion to EC over the Week 1 recommended strength due to CalMag at 1 ml/gal. If your PPM's are dropping as your pH rises over the course of a couple days, then I would raise the PPM's as long as your plants remain happy...




Shady Details and Solo Shots...

I thought I'd share some shady details on my UC process before I post up solo shots of the soil side. I always start by rinsing a fresh bag of hydroton in tap water to remove all of the clay dust and after a day of airing out the hydroton, I transplant the cuts. As usual I was a bit lazy in starting this round and the cuts were in a dome for month, so they were a little beat up. During the first week I water each cut using water from the epicenter at lights on and 12 hours later. I repeat this daily until roots hit the water line. Now for some stats on the ambient environment, and water which has increased slightly in PPM's due to the residual 400 PPM tap water from the hydroton...

Shady Details... Under Current

And a closeup shot of a Skywalker OG with the lights off showing some water spots from my manual watering...

Solo Shots... Roots Organic
I plan on flipping the switch to bloom on Friday night. Here's a quick shot under the HPS with the custom white balance set...

And now for a closer look at each plant, which have had their tallest shoots supercropped every couple of days...

White Fire #3...

Plum Princess...

Ghost OG...

White Stardawg...

Strawberry Bubba...

White S1 #7...

:cool:

 

[All4freedumb]

I'm do jealous of your strippers you got on your stage... Nice choices..

 

[woodsmaneh]

The UC better come out on top or I have a lot of explaining to do. $15,000.00 in equipment for 3 rooms vs bags of dirt? I'll just go sit in the corner for now, OK I smoked a fatty and got my perspective back, went and looked at one of my rooms, UC rules when you get it right. LOL thanks for going to all the effort I love learning new stuff and seeing real life comparisons, thats how I ended up with the UC.

Do you use H2O2 at all?

I noticed you said you had your 1000 dimmed to 500, thats not a real good thing to do because bulbs are designed to burn at a specific temperature to produce the stated light spectrum, so running a 1000w at anything but full power does not produce the proper light spectrum. You can find this info at the better bulb manufactures web sites, EYE Hortalux and others.

Love your work

Peace

 

[ttystikk]

The UC better come out on top or I have a lot of explaining to do. $15,000.00 in equipment for 3 rooms vs bags of dirt? I'll just go sit in the corner for now, OK I smoked a fatty and got my perspective back, went and looked at one of my rooms, UC rules when you get it right. LOL thanks for going to all the effort I love learning new stuff and seeing real life comparisons, thats how I ended up with the UC.

Do you use H2O2 at all?

I noticed you said you had your 1000 dimmed to 500, thats not a real good thing to do because bulbs are designed to burn at a specific temperature to produce the stated light spectrum, so running a 1000w at anything but full power does not produce the proper light spectrum. You can find this info at the better bulb manufactures web sites, EYE Hortalux and others.

Love your work

Peace

My problem with RDWC is how fast and how drastically it responds to changes, I didn't catch a big pH swing recently, it just cost me a couple plants. Soil IS more forgiving.

He's right about running big bulbs at dimmed settings. Not only does it affect the spectrum, it also kills your watts/PAR efficiency (dimming your bulb to 50% power, you're likely only getting 35% of the rated light) AND it leads to premature aging/ lumen depreciation of bulbs. HPS is relatively resistant to this effect, but MH does not suffer this treatment well at all. Dim a MH to 50% and you can lose up to 90% of your bulb's expected life!

Deets in this bulletin;

 

[ttystikk]

That would be the one and only detail that doesn't look like it's well and thoroughly under control; nice op, shady. For real, I'm takin' notes, for the same reasons you are.

 

[Capulator]

looks like you've got your fingers in a little bit of every thing. Wheres my popcorn for this show?

HAHAHA there it is!!!

 

[opt1c]

guess its better to raise the mh a couple days and then dim the hps once starting flower... digging those trellis's shady... what size pvc did u use? super clean as always... what camera are you rocking btw?

 

[woodsmaneh]

I was a dirt farmer when christ was a cowboy and became a rabid organics snob 12 years ago. If I could grow a 1 pound plant in dirt inside in 14 weeks start to finish I would be in dirt still. RDWC is the only way I know off to do this indoors if your good. Yes they do respond very fast but just like a woman go slow and watch for signs and signals, LOL it's always a love hate with the UC.

 

[Skunkmasterflex]

gotta love a nice shady thread.....even an intro song. its like theme music. love it. but yeah bro, nice line up on genetics and nice detail, i would expect nothing less from you homie. cant wait for the show to really get poppin. shits gonna get real up in thiiisssss......~SMF~

 

[hogan400]

I agree on the bulb info. Its for a short time so wont make too much difference but can cause premature burnout. I also agree with woods on when the Uc is done right is just killer.. Thats why I still focused on it troubleshooting.

You thinking about an alfalfa addition or special brew for the organics? I did dirt for yrs, and alfalfa indoors was double bonus for me...

This is gonna be dynamite shady! Your attention to deatil is great bro!

 

[Garden of Dreams]

looking Sik Shady!!! :D

 

[ttystikk]

I agree on the bulb info. Its for a short time so wont make too much difference but can cause premature burnout. I also agree with woods on when the Uc is done right is just killer.. Thats why I still focused on it troubleshooting.

You thinking about an alfalfa addition or special brew for the organics? I did dirt for yrs, and alfalfa indoors was double bonus for me...

This is gonna be dynamite shady! Your attention to deatil is great bro!

If the alfalfa question is for me, yes- I'm plucking some tomorrow, gonna run it through the blender, strain it and pour the goo into my nursery's ebb n flood res.

Apparently, the premature light depreciation issue is less of a problem for HPS than other HID, but the loss of efficiency is something to keep in mind.

Shady's attention to detail is impressive.

 

[M.S.T.]

There's that Shady detail I love. I too still rock on the custom white balance like you taught me!

 

[Shady]

I'm do jealous of your strippers you got on your stage... Nice choices..

Thx brotha! I've still got to shave their legs before they put on the short skirts...

Do you use H2O2 at all?

I noticed you said you had your 1000 dimmed to 500, thats not a real good thing to do because bulbs are designed to burn at a specific temperature to produce the stated light spectrum, so running a 1000w at anything but full power does not produce the proper light spectrum. You can find this info at the better bulb manufactures web sites, EYE Hortalux and others.

Love your work

Peace

Thx for the heads up eh! I have not used Hydrogen Peroxide since my first two rounds in hydro. At the moment I'm using UC Roots which would probably not commingle with H2O2 well...

He's right about running big bulbs at dimmed settings. Not only does it affect the spectrum, it also kills your watts/PAR efficiency (dimming your bulb to 50% power, you're likely only getting 35% of the rated light) AND it leads to premature aging/ lumen depreciation of bulbs. HPS is relatively resistant to this effect, but MH does not suffer this treatment well at all. Dim a MH to 50% and you can lose up to 90% of your bulb's expected life!

Deets in this bulletin;

Thx for the bulletin info brah! I will need to read this in further detail... Luckily I have the 1kW Hortilux Super HPS, but I would rather run at 500W until the roots hit the water instead of frying the girls with too many lumens at this stage...

That would be the one and only detail that doesn't look like it's well and thoroughly under control; nice op, shady. For real, I'm takin' notes, for the same reasons you are.

Thx again! I definitely thought things through, but I wasn't aware of the reduced light spectrum... I could swap out ballasts and bulbs to run a 600w HPS at full power instead... Hmmm....

looks like you've got your fingers in a little bit of every thing. Wheres my popcorn for this show?

HAHAHA there it is!!!

Hahaa! Are you gonna share any or is that bag all for yourself? Thx for stopping by Cap!

guess its better to raise the mh a couple days and then dim the hps once starting flower... digging those trellis's shady... what size pvc did u use? super clean as always... what camera are you rocking btw?

Thx bud! I used 3/4" schedule 40 PVC... I'm still rockin' the decade old Sony DSC F717, but its time for an upgrade to a DSLR...

gotta love a nice shady thread.....even an intro song. its like theme music. love it. but yeah bro, nice line up on genetics and nice detail, i would expect nothing less from you homie. cant wait for the show to really get poppin. shits gonna get real up in thiiisssss......~SMF~

Right on my brotha from anotha motha! My friend showed me how to link a youtube clip so I updated my OP with the music... Keepin' it real! Thx for the kind words as always...

I agree on the bulb info. Its for a short time so wont make too much difference but can cause premature burnout. I also agree with woods on when the Uc is done right is just killer.. Thats why I still focused on it troubleshooting.

You thinking about an alfalfa addition or special brew for the organics? I did dirt for yrs, and alfalfa indoors was double bonus for me...

This is gonna be dynamite shady! Your attention to deatil is great bro!

Word up holmes! After a month of veg, and I will probably buy a new HPS just to be safe... Thx for the props! If you were asking me about the organics, I honestly have not thought about taking things to the next level... maybe sometime in the future I'll step up my game...

looking Sik Shady!!! :D

Thx again my friend!

There's that Shady detail I love. I too still rock on the custom white balance like you taught me!

Thx man! Glad to see you still dig the photo tech under the HPS...

Your a gangsta holmes I don't even know if people actually realize the fire you hold in those strains. White stardawg and the #7 cut lol f-ing sik!!!

Thx bro! I'm definitely amped to see these girls in full bloom...


Roots Organic... The Flip

Here's a couple quick shots of the Roots Organic side flipped to bloom on Saturday night...

:cool:

 

[Shady]

Shady UC Update...

Well, things are going a bit slow at the moment... Roots have probably hit the water line, but not popped out of the bottom or sides of the net pots yet. I will reduce the hand watering to every other day to encourage the roots to seek out the water. In the meantime, I lowered my light to 4' above the canopy over the weekend... before that it was much higher, but these Skywalker OG cuts are starting to get pissed off at me. Got some leaf curl going on around the edges... I'm thinking over watering, and/or low RH and High VPD. I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any...

I also noticed a slow leak on one of my buckets... there was a bit of water at the base. Upon further inspection, I noticed a hairline crack...

So I hope a temporary fix with J-B Water Weld will work on the outside of the bucket...

I sanded down the surface as directed, and I hope the crack is only on the side and not under the bucket...

I cut a small portion of the Water Weld, which ended up being way too much...

I then kneaded it with my fingers until it was all a consistent off-white color and proceeded to paste it onto the crack...

:confused:

 

[TrichromeFan]

Looks like you are moving right along buddy! 3 Styles at once? Badass!

Look at you, I didn't know you had some McGyver in you. Get down!

Looking forward to your feedback on the outcome at the finish line.

-TF

 

[ttystikk]

Nicely done with the JB weld action. I'm interested in seeing how well that works out over the course of the run.

I think your girls could benefit from some topfeeding, it helped mine when they looked like that. I would also run the RH up to 60-70% and see how they respond. Of course, about a week after they take off, you'll need to take the humidifier out and put in a DE-humidifier, lol, but that's the kind of problem you want to have, right?

Some 'light' reading on bulb life issues with dimming::cool: