Should I End This Before I Even Really Start?

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Hey fam, I want to welcome myself as a first time grower here. A lot has changed over the years since I began smoking again, had to quit for several personal reasons nearly 7 years ago. Right now I live in an illegal state medically and recreationally so of course I'm trying to er on the side of caution and take all the necessary precautions to not get busted. Weed is too expensive here and all I can find is mid grade so growing really is my best option and I want to know what I'm getting. Who knows, your shit could have been sitting next to a damn batch of fentanyl. Weed has helped me in so many ways mentally and physically that it has even saved my relationship. My better half is supportive of us growing. I know the rules but shes been toking too for stress and I trust her with my life. But it's not worth spending any time in prison! Here's the deal, I ordered from Seedsman and I opted for tracking and never received a tracking number until they were in the US. Weird thing is that they arrived in a normal USPS envelope still in the breeder packs! They didn't do stealth shipping even though I paid for it and also I did not even receive my 3 free amnesia auto seeds I was supposed o get but whatever. They came from a legal state from an odd name and it was a little alarming but I tried not to think much about it. The next week I ordered a grow tent and that package went missing even though the tracking shows it was delivered, but I was here that day when the mail man gave me my mail outside and it was nowhere in sight. That to me was a little more alarming because of the possibilities of someone discovering it, either him or even a wrong address it may have ended up at. Am I being too cautious or maybe even paranoid... should I lay low for a bit? I've got 2 autos started, not even close to veg yet. But now I'm reconsidering if I should even go through with the grow if I even suspect I'm on anyone's watch list. Thanks for reading, I could use some opinions.
 
Dirtbag

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I mean... I'd be hard pressed to out and out recommend you break the law on a public forum...

But at the end of the day, with regard to pot I'd say screw the unjust law and overgrow the govt man. I've never been one to let "authority" dictate my moral compass.

On that note... they didnt see the seeds. And it's not illegal to have a grow tent, you could be growing anything.

If it were me, I'd lay low for a month or so. Watch for a black suburban parked outside lol. Beyond that, I'd say fuck it and grow.

Or move to a legal state. I can tell you one thing, I've never felt a weight lift off my shoulders like it did the day I got my license to grow legally. I was half paranoid for years... decades even.
 
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I mean... I'd be hard pressed to out and out recommend you break the law on a public forum...

But at the end of the day, with regard to pot I'd say screw the unjust law and overgrow the govt man. I've never been one to let "authority" dictate my moral compass.

On that note... they didnt see the seeds. And it's not illegal to have a grow tent, you could be growing anything.

If it were me, I'd lay low for a month or so. Watch for a black suburban parked outside lol. Beyond that, I'd say fuck it and grow.

Or move to a legal state. I can tell you one thing, I've never felt a weight lift off my shoulders like it did the day I got my license to grow legally. I was half paranoid for years... decades even.

Lmao yeah I'm always paying attention to any suspicious vehicles in the neighborhood and I discreetly set up a trail cam for when I'm not here. I've even started using a VPN for browsing. I'm just trying to use common sense, but my woman thinks I'm being too paranoid. I call it being careful. In the same breath I'm like fuck it, if they want to waste tons of resources on 1-2 plants then that's stupidity on their end but then again there is always someone waiting to bring you down no matter what. I've got too much to lose, a good job, a family and a little boy that is my life man. It's just bullshit this amazing plant is still illegal in most parts this day and age. It's like I feel wrong about doing it but then again why should I for personal use? 2019 has been a good year so far with moving discussion along for decriminalization and even ending federal prohibition. But who knows how long it will take and the feds will still throw throw you away in the meantime. Anyways, I've got another tent coming and I was thinking what you were suggesting in laying low for at least a month. So by the time my autos hit flower maybe my paranoia will fade lol. 1 is a week and the other is in germ. My girlfriend has a ton of tomatoes started, she loves gardening so yeah we could just be growing anything. Does anyone know how Seedsman is doing their shipping methods now? I heard they changed and was wondering if that's how they came from Cali. But if that's the case then why didn't I get them way sooner? The name on the envelope wasn't related to anything Seedsman. Idk man, just seemed a little sketchy but it appears no one has seen the seeds.
 
Dirtbag

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For them to enter your house they are going to need a warrant. I just dont see that ever happening for a 1-2 plant personal grow. It would be next to impossible to collect enough evidence to even bring to a judge to get the warrant. They cant just go on a hunch. Keep it quiet and you should be fine. The biggest risk is if the police were to ever enter your house for some other reason like a domestic dispute or looking for the boogeyman terrorists or something. But honestly, ask yourself the last time that happened.

Really though know the consequences of getting caught and be prepared to pay them if you do. Chances are infinitely slim, but they are there.
 
Jack og

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Just remember. Don’t talk about it and never disclose to anyone.
Go ahead and do what you gotta do to get you your medicine man. I hope the laws change so that ppl can openly treat themselves.
Seedsman ships in discreet packages always. So I’d err on the side of caution but it’s not illegal to have seeds, as a curio or collectible item.
No laws against tents etc, it’s legal world ove.
Justst be extremely discreet and like I said, don’t talk about it to no one.
Welcome to the farm and any help we can give ya experience wise, holler at us.
 
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LoFive

For them to enter your house they are going to need a warrant. I just dont see that ever happening for a 1-2 plant personal grow. It would be next to impossible to collect enough evidence to even bring to a judge to get the warrant. They cant just go on a hunch. Keep it quiet and you should be fine. The biggest risk is if the police were to ever enter your house for some other reason like a domestic dispute or looking for the boogeyman terrorists or something. But honestly, ask yourself the last time that happened.

Really though know the consequences of getting caught and be prepared to pay them if you do. Chances are infinitely slim, but they are there.

Dirt I really appreciate the replies, I think just having a second opinion sometimes makes me think a little more clear. I have understood the consequences and even looked up the penalties in cultivation in the state. And yeah it's highly doubtful and that's why I was wondering if somehow I'm collecting evidence against me already for in the future considering how I got the beans and then the tent missing ya know. Just makes me wonder a little because we all know how petty the law can be. Hopefully one day soon I can celebrate my license to grow too without worrying about being busted. Cheers.
 
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LoFive

Just remember. Don’t talk about it and never disclose to anyone.
Go ahead and do what you gotta do to get you your medicine man. I hope the laws change so that ppl can openly treat themselves.
Seedsman ships in discreet packages always. So I’d err on the side of caution but it’s not illegal to have seeds, as a curio or collectible item.
No laws against tents etc, it’s legal world ove.
Justst be extremely discreet and like I said, don’t talk about it to no one.
Welcome to the farm and any help we can give ya experience wise, holler at us.

Yeah the only people that know is myself and her. My kid has seen the light and temporary tent so he asked and we showed him the tomato plants. Other than that no one knows and I plan to keep it that way lol. Good to know they are trusted by many but I was a little disappointed they were not concealed and not getting the 3 free autos but it wasn't a deal breaker. I'll definitely be around on the forums for advice on the grow! I'll keep everyone posted.
 
Dirtbag

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Dirt I really appreciate the replies, I think just having a second opinion sometimes makes me think a little more clear. I have understood the consequences and even looked up the penalties in cultivation in the state. And yeah it's highly doubtful and that's why I was wondering if somehow I'm collecting evidence against me already for in the future considering how I got the beans and then the tent missing ya know. Just makes me wonder a little because we all know how petty the law can be. Hopefully one day soon I can celebrate my license to grow too without worrying about being busted. Cheers.

I think big brother tries to keep us in check based out of fear more than anything. There is no way for them to actually track and follow everything everyone does. They depend on you thinking they know everything you're up to.

It wasnt until I became friends with several cops through working as a first responder that I realized how little they actually know, and furthermore how little they can actually do about what they do know. Not to mention how few fucks they have to give about weed..

Mind you things are different here in Canada..
 
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Fangthane

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I ordered from Seedsman and I opted for tracking and never received a tracking number until they were in the US. Weird thing is that they arrived in a normal USPS envelope still in the breeder packs! They didn't do stealth shipping even though I paid for it and also I did not even receive my 3 free amnesia auto seeds I was supposed o get but whatever.
I made my first order from Seedsman a few months ago. Right around that time, they were changing up their shipping practices to the US. The impression that I got from email correspondence was that they were now sending seeds to the US in large bulk shipments, where an agent here in the US would sort them all out and then ship to their final destination. Although my Amnesia freebies did come, my order also came in a USPS bubble envelope, still in breeder packaging.
 
London bud

London bud

Hey fam, I want to welcome myself as a first time grower here. A lot has changed over the years since I began smoking again, had to quit for several personal reasons nearly 7 years ago. Right now I live in an illegal state medically and recreationally so of course I'm trying to er on the side of caution and take all the necessary precautions to not get busted. Weed is too expensive here and all I can find is mid grade so growing really is my best option and I want to know what I'm getting. Who knows, your shit could have been sitting next to a damn batch of fentanyl. Weed has helped me in so many ways mentally and physically that it has even saved my relationship. My better half is supportive of us growing. I know the rules but shes been toking too for stress and I trust her with my life. But it's not worth spending any time in prison! Here's the deal, I ordered from Seedsman and I opted for tracking and never received a tracking number until they were in the US. Weird thing is that they arrived in a normal USPS envelope still in the breeder packs! They didn't do stealth shipping even though I paid for it and also I did not even receive my 3 free amnesia auto seeds I was supposed o get but whatever. They came from a legal state from an odd name and it was a little alarming but I tried not to think much about it. The next week I ordered a grow tent and that package went missing even though the tracking shows it was delivered, but I was here that day when the mail man gave me my mail outside and it was nowhere in sight. That to me was a little more alarming because of the possibilities of someone discovering it, either him or even a wrong address it may have ended up at. Am I being too cautious or maybe even paranoid... should I lay low for a bit? I've got 2 autos started, not even close to veg yet. But now I'm reconsidering if I should even go through with the grow if I even suspect I'm on anyone's watch list. Thanks for reading, I could use some opinions.
Stop being a pussy man. Tons of us grow totally illegal, don't let them pigs put you off.
Grow them plants bro
 
gwheels

gwheels

Just remember the most important thing about growing illegally....dont tell anyone. Not even your dog. Dont tell your girl. Dont tell your friends at work.

When they say hey this shit is dank and delicious where did you get it.....resist the urge to say you grow it.

I have a guy or gal that gets wicked weed is all you ever say.

I live in a legal place and now i can brag and say i grew that but before that it was a very close circle of friends that got a bud from my stash. And they all had tight lips..Or they would not have tried that delicious weed.

Just my 2 cents. It is posted here on a sticky someplace.
 
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LoFive

I made my first order from Seedsman a few months ago. Right around that time, they were changing up their shipping practices to the US. The impression that I got from email correspondence was that they were now sending seeds to the US in large bulk shipments, where an agent here in the US would sort them all out and then ship to their final destination. Although my Amnesia freebies did come, my order also came in a USPS bubble envelope, still in breeder packaging.

That's what I gathered too, most of the communication was through automated emails when I asked about it because the description on about their shipping methods now was somewhat vague to me. Makes sense though, and maybe even more secure. I guess with it being my first time indoors I just don't want to be caught slipping. Did a one plant outdoor many years ago that turned out fine but I had suspicious aircraft flying too low for comfort on two occasions. That was an ass clinching experience right there that I debated cutting it down while still finishing up budding. But good to know I wasn't the only one who received them like that. The package was fine, no signs of being opened prior to receiving
 
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LoFive

I think big brother tries to keep us in check based out of fear more than anything. There is no way for them to actually track and follow everything everyone does. They depend on you thinking they know everything you're up to.

It wasnt until I became friends with several cops through working as a first responder that I realized how little they actually know, and furthermore how little they can actually do about what they do know. Not to mention how few fucks they have to give about weed..

Mind you things are different here in Canada..

Well said. I would say things are probably similar here also. I work in the healthcare field too and many cops we knows could care less about weed unless it's a huge grow operation amongst other things. And then if course if I was stinking up the neighborhood or having bright fucking LED's coming from the basement at odd hours through the night. I'm going to follow through with it, I've already committed time in research and equipment to be able to produce my own medicine. I appreciate the opinions from everyone so far it's encouraging. Tight lips is key.
 
London bud

London bud

That's what I gathered too, most of the communication was through automated emails when I asked about it because the description on about their shipping methods now was somewhat vague to me. Makes sense though, and maybe even more secure. I guess with it being my first time indoors I just don't want to be caught slipping. Did a one plant outdoor many years ago that turned out fine but I had suspicious aircraft flying too low for comfort on two occasions. That was an ass clinching experience right there that I debated cutting it down while still finishing up budding. But good to know I wasn't the only one who received them like that. The package was fine, no signs of being opened prior to receiving
You had a suspicious aircraft flying to low for comfort LOL I'm sure the authorities are not flying round looking for your one plant, you are mad paranoid, maybe u should just leave the weed alone altogether
 
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LoFive

You had a suspicious aircraft flying to low for comfort LOL I'm sure the authorities are not flying round looking for your one plant, you are mad paranoid, maybe u should just leave the weed alone altogether

Lol I'm serious bro. They were hovering low over my spot and it was a dark plane and it circled back around when I went back inside and watched from the window. Maybe they saw it maybe they didn't or just didn't give a shit. I think whenever we do something illegal we're going to be paranoid high or not especially when you have to consider fires and detection for months at a time. Weed just makes me think of the small details that may go unounnoticed if not careful. State police do annually look for illegal outdor grows and some are very good at it, so whether they care about one little plant or not is their discretion.
 
Dan789

Dan789

Lol I'm serious bro. They were hovering low over my spot and it was a dark plane and it circled back around when I went back inside and watched from the window. Maybe they saw it maybe they didn't or just didn't give a shit. I think whenever we do something illegal we're going to be paranoid high or not especially when you have to consider fires and detection for months at a time. Weed just makes me think of the small details that may go unounnoticed if not careful. State police do annually look for illegal outdor grows and some are very good at it, so whether they care about one little plant or not is their discretion.
You don’t have a large MJ leaf painted on your roof, do you? Sorry man, to poke some fun at your possible paranoia, but even in a legal rec and medi state I don’t tell anyone other than one close neighbor. But last night on the news I saw someone had unclothed mannequins in their yard, and the uptight assholes at the station blurred the breast and genital regions for their shots, that’s fucked up...manniquins!, that’s in California, where we’re portrayed as the modern Sodom and Gomorrah, believe it or not...
 
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LoFive

How's it going with your grow?

So far so good! Started Royal Queen Quick One and man has she taken off the last few days. Nearly doubled in size overnight! Day 12 now. The other was bag seed from a bud that was pretty decent, it was growing great but now it's looking sickly now. Very small leaves and not gaining any height really, just stacking more leaves... any idea? Also bottom leaves are a little crinkly and discolored. It was going fine but I'm going to start a Lowryder #2 in case it doesn't make it. Will be having to get a carbon filter kit soon, all I can find is a few on Amazon and the reviews putting me off about the noise and them crapping out in 2 months. Can anyone point me to a setup for under $150?
 
Erick31876

Erick31876

So far so good! Started Royal Queen Quick One and man has she taken off the last few days. Nearly doubled in size overnight! Day 12 now. The other was bag seed from a bud that was pretty decent, it was growing great but now it's looking sickly now. Very small leaves and not gaining any height really, just stacking more leaves... any idea? Also bottom leaves are a little crinkly and discolored. It was going fine but I'm going to start a Lowryder #2 in case it doesn't make it. Will be having to get a carbon filter kit soon, all I can find is a few on Amazon and the reviews putting me off about the noise and them crapping out in 2 months. Can anyone point me to a setup for under $150?
I got a cheap 6 inch one from Amazon. I haven't had any problems with the fan or filter. It's not that loud at all. I have 4 or 5 runs on it already. I dont remember the brand, but I remember it was the cheapest 6 inch one they had.i did see some bad reviews on it but said fuck it and gave it a shot.
 
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