Should i train my outdoor plants?

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Croddy44

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I got some gelato41 x dosidos seeds from archive seed bank. This is gonna be my second outdoor grow.last time i kinda just let the plants grow freely. I only ended up yielding about a pound and a half off 6 plants though. I wanted to hear everyones opinions on if I should train or not ? If so what method? Will it increase my yield? Please let me know
 
needshelpguy

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Depends on location in my opinion, where the light comes from shaded areas I would thin out
 
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Trained Northern Lights and Super Lemon Haze. Had to get rid of SLH. Was too loud. NL on left I'd say was about 8+oz. SLH was right there with it. I would train. But I've never not trained soo.. Set Sail to NautilusNews*
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Croddy44

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How exactly did u train them ? I've researched a few methods but I'm not sure what would work best.
 
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How exactly did u train them ? I've researched a few methods but I'm not sure what would work best.
Top a few times in veg. I had a height restriction so aside from topping I tied the whole plant to lean. And this I believe payed off later. Wanted it as short and bushy as possible. When I planted I put what I could of that thick stalk in the ground and planted at about a 45° angle which really put the plants upright. Some people would worry about root rot but that wasn't on my mind. I figured it would just grow more roots and it did really well. At that time I wasn't using super soil so I planted with either FFOF or Bu's Blend. Both are good enough especially to jump start outdoor. But what really helped was that I topped with a full 20/30 lb bag of wiggle worm. Pretty sure I was already using compost tea's during this grow which is a must. But from there I would tie down what I could up top. Cut away anything that wouldn't amount to much from lower points throughout summer until the days shortened. I tried not to cut too much after flower but if the plants are strong you can for awhile. Especially since outdoor will run late to end of October*. I may have even cut early November. But I would just watch your branches. Some you can strengthen with a pinch and bend early on and throughout. Some will bounce back strong and fatten up. Others will likely bounce back but stay thin. If you put these in during spring/early summer, you'll have plenty of time to study, play around, and learn. But if your LST isn't paying off on a lower thinner branch, just remove it. As you can see, (somewhat anyway) I had plenty of 'tops', more so than I topped the plant for really. It just becomes a bush. The more you tie down, the more it shoots up.
 
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You'll also want to grab some long, like 3-4 ft long, thin metal rod stakes to put in ground with hook tops to tie down to. Some hemp string to tie with. Bamboo to support and keep branches apart from other branches the best you can for more light to get in etc. And too, I found some things at home depot in garden section. They're orange and black, about the size of a half dollar, they zip lock together like hand cuffs or zip ties. But unlike zip ties these have a release so you can loosen or remove them. Use these to clip branches to stakes, other branches or pin them in whatever position you need to. All cheap must haves for LST. All at home depot.
 
MIGrampaUSA

MIGrampaUSA

Training is for indoor plants. the sun is 93 million miles from your plant, i think it can penetrate your 2-6 foot plant without any problems. ;)

I would respectfully disagree with that.

You might train a plant outdoors to help in concealing it. You are right about the sun's ability to penetrate the plant ... but maybe your outdoor grow is not for everyone's eyes to see ...
 
Cube

Cube

I would respectfully disagree with that.

You might train a plant outdoors to help in concealing it. You are right about the sun's ability to penetrate the plant ... but maybe your outdoor grow is not for everyone's eyes to see ...

Ahh.. good point I wasn't thinking about concealment.
 
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If you look at my last pic you'll see I had some scraggly twig branches at bottom even though the sun penetrated. (Which by the way is not 93 million miles away but rather small, local and revolving around the Earth. But I digress.).. You got 1.5 lbs off one plant. I was set for 1lb* off 2 plants. Do the math. Things will have variables, strains environment etc, sure. But I was working 2 different strains and had I had 6 doing it the way I did I would have doubled your yield. Give or take. But you should go for the train. besides. It's in part a hobby right? Be more involved. You'll appreciated the payoff much much more.
 
Spiman2u

Spiman2u

Train. Start early . Read everything. Here in Calif i just took these pics outside. Solar lights .All plants seed. The 3 are radically tied down for scrog...Dont do that. I agree above-better staking and spreed out branches . It depends on sooo many things. My Gf hates all my big plants :{.. It only gets better.. I top all my plants...clones not much..i prefer Fem seeds.
 
Spiman2u

Spiman2u

I just hit my outdoor with the tea. Found this also. I
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have some of those listed on the chart..
 
Croddy44

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How long should I wait until putting them into the fox farms ocean forest soil ? I'm starting them in a lil bit more forgiving soil people have told me ffof has too much nutrients for seedlings
 
Madbud

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How long should I wait until putting them into the fox farms ocean forest soil ? I'm starting them in a lil bit more forgiving soil people have told me ffof has too much nutrients for seedlings
Anytime after the third set of leaves. As for training, depending on where you are, plan on windy rain storms beating branches of heavy colas. Get some long rods and twine or a scrog net.
 
detroitjoe

detroitjoe

Top a few times in veg. I had a height restriction so aside from topping I tied the whole plant to lean. And this I believe payed off later. Wanted it as short and bushy as possible. When I planted I put what I could of that thick stalk in the ground and planted at about a 45° angle which really put the plants upright. Some people would worry about root rot but that wasn't on my mind. I figured it would just grow more roots and it did really well. At that time I wasn't using super soil so I planted with either FFOF or Bu's Blend. Both are good enough especially to jump start outdoor. But what really helped was that I topped with a full 20/30 lb bag of wiggle worm. Pretty sure I was already using compost tea's during this grow which is a must. But from there I would tie down what I could up top. Cut away anything that wouldn't amount to much from lower points throughout summer until the days shortened. I tried not to cut too much after flower but if the plants are strong you can for awhile. Especially since outdoor will run late to end of October*. I may have even cut early November. But I would just watch your branches. Some you can strengthen with a pinch and bend early on and throughout. Some will bounce back strong and fatten up. Others will likely bounce back but stay thin. If you put these in during spring/early summer, you'll have plenty of time to study, play around, and learn. But if your LST isn't paying off on a lower thinner branch, just remove it. As you can see, (somewhat anyway) I had plenty of 'tops', more so than I topped the plant for really. It just becomes a bush. The more you tie down, the more it shoots up.
Yup works great. Why waste time growing only to trim bud sites off.

I train them low as possible to hide them but they turn out monsters. It's great.
 
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