So overwhelmed, I need a mentor! :)

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Sad thing is, I don't know what I want. I was hoping for a little more clarification with this thread but I think I am more confused than before I started. 😱 I did learn about flushing and flipping with certainty

How do you change the Ph of the solution once mixed?
There are readily available products, PH up and PH down. One is an acid, the other a base. So if you want to raise the ph you add the base (PH Up), to lower the PH you add the acid (PH Down). These are strong chemicals, you don’t need much, usually a capful or two to a couple gallons. You only need these products if you’re using synthetic nutrients. Just as a warning, do not ever mix the pure acid and pure base together, the results will produce a very vigorous reaction (like mixing vinegar and baking soda). I still think as a beginner a simple 2 part organic veg-bloom dry fertilizer would be easier for you.
 
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Not really. My next day off is not until Friday. Seeds will be here Wed.

I think there is one not too far from my work but getting there is difficult on a bus.
How do you get through life without a car? I couldn’t imagine. You won’t need any nutes just yet. You should be fine with that fox farms before nutes are needed. Several people have stated that ocean forest you purchased can be “too hot” for seedlings. My personal experience with the soil was not that great. I didn’t like the growth upon seeding and when it got beyond that stage I had other problems I wasn’t happy with. At this point you just need some solo cups with some holes cut in it and some soil and some water.

P.S since you posted this thread I thought your avatar was black eyes or black bags. I didn’t realize it was supposed to be makeup. Super glad you aren’t getting beat up.
 
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Sad thing is, I don't know what I want. I was hoping for a little more clarification with this thread but I think I am more confused than before I started. 😱 I did learn about flushing and flipping with certainty LMAO.


This is new. I just noticed it recently as well. Through me for a loop as also.


How do you change the Ph of the solution once mixed?


I like simple... for the line, what would you suggest in that line? All I know is I need nutrients... I do not know what nutrients. There are so many out there and they all do different things. I assume I need one to aid in the vegetation process and the flowering process. It seems that there is more needed than just those two things.

I do not know why this is so hard for me.... but I cannot figure out what it is I actually need. I am leaning toward this, Flora Series nutrients plus CALiMAGic, because it is a complete line all in one package. I cannot say I like that it is synthetic, but this is the simplicity I am looking for.

I need clear direction, "here, try this, this and this, it works great". 🤣

Starting something new is so awkward. 😞
Please don’t ever flush, the ph and flushing jargon is no good. In soil you should leave all that alone.
So I understand why you are confused, it’s bnutty here from time to time.
You flush and you’ll end up tailspinning into a myriad of deficiencies and a starving plant
Right before harvest or whenever is counterintuitive.
I’m gonna back away slowly now.
Best of luck 👊🏻🤡
 
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I still think as a beginner a simple 2 part organic veg-bloom dry fertilizer would be easier for you.
That sounds simple enough. Any recommendations?
How do you get through life without a car?
I'm cheap and do not want to pay for parking. Street parking is a pain, especially in winter. Busses aren't bad, except for waiting for them, or having to sit near dirty and smelly people... but it's not horrible 🤣

Several people have stated that ocean forest you purchased can be “too hot” for seedlings.
I have noticed that. Disappointing as I purchased a bag. I have seen other threads where some have said it was good from start to harvest. I will grab a bag of happy frog.
Please don’t ever flush, the ph and flushing jargon is no good. In soil you should leave all that alone.
So I understand why you are confused, it’s bnutty here from time to time.
You flush and you’ll end up tailspinning into a myriad of deficiencies and a starving plant
I can see that. I would have never thought of flushing. To me that is like over-watering. That is another topic that worries me. Proper watering. I need to learn not to be so heavy with watering and not over water.

P.S since you posted this thread I thought your avatar was black eyes or black bags. I didn’t realize it was supposed to be makeup. Super glad you aren’t getting beat up.
LOL.... avatar is small.... A couple of years ago I started learning 3D Animation and modeling. She is one of my characters. I have an entire cast of characters. I have some fun ideas for things but cannot write for sh*t.

Bhjc

This was suppose to air last fall. Still no closer to a 1st episode 🤣


Ok... back on topic.... So I just need a nutrient for vegetation and one for blooming correct? Maybe something for Ph adjustment for the water. Would this be a correct assumption? And different soil for the seed. 👍
 
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About flushing...

Here's a video by Dr. Bruce Bugbee. He's a bona fide researcher and one of the few on Youtube who's worth following. In it, he says flushing should only be done when there are excess nutrients in the soil. I know from my other gardening adventures that nutrients and other substances in the soil can affect a plant's taste and flavor. I believe excess nitrogen can be unpleasant, while sulfur has a favorable effect. So, I only add a few nutrients during the last month before harvest.

 
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I do not know why this is so hard for me.... but I cannot figure out what it is I actually need. I am leaning toward this, Flora Series nutrients plus CALiMAGic, because it is a complete line all in one package. I cannot say I like that it is synthetic.
General Hydroponics that sells the Flora series also has a line called General Organics BioThrive. I use to use the Biothrive because it's organic but it smells like crap (because it's organic) and also clogs automatic watering systems, that's why I switched to the synthetic line Flora series they offer.
Also synthetics mix into water much easier then organic nutes and synthetic will not separate from the water if you are mixing a few gallons at a time, the organic will separate and leave residue on water containers.
 
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General Hydroponics that sells the Flora series also has a line called General Organics BioThrive. I use to use the Biothrive because it's organic but it smells like crap (because it's organic) and also clogs automatic watering systems, that's why I switched to the synthetic line Flora series they offer.
Also synthetics mix into water much easier then organic nutes and synthetic will not separate from the water if you are mixing a few gallons at a time, the organic will separate and leave residue on water containers.
I've never mixed organic nutrients with water. I top dress dry nutrients and then water them in. Adding fresh soil on top will suppress odors, as will a carbon exhaust filter.
 
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Please don’t ever flush, the ph and flushing jargon is no good. In soil you should leave all that alone.
So I understand why you are confused, it’s bnutty here from time to time.
You flush and you’ll end up tailspinning into a myriad of deficiencies and a starving plant
Right before harvest or whenever is counterintuitive.
I’m gonna back away slowly now.
Best of luck 👊🏻🤡
When you flush you fuck up the electrical charge of the soil and nutrients won't be able to do their thing until it corrects. In the end everything is just sharing electrons with one another and charge matters ✌️
 
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I can do this! :)

No not really... but I am grabbing bits and pieces of what I can understand.... Since I have decided to go with Ocean Forest soil I guess I am looking at those that use this too.

I see a 4 bottle set on Amazon for 56.00. I found perlite for around 14.00. I have not looked up rice hulls. Do I need all of this? Should I use synthetic nutrients with organic soil?

I purchased those little peat cups for seeding, then into a small pot until bushy. I have 5 gal canvas bags for the final. Isn't that too big for such a small plant? I was thinking of using the small pot next to the peat cups I bought in the image above for a 2nd pot. Get it a good 6-10 inches and a bit bushy before planting in the large 5 gal. Is that wrong?

IMPORTANT HERE!
Looks like I will need an Amazon order for nutrients.
  1. So do I just need perlite? Or do I just need the Flora Series or do I need both. Both would be around 70.00. Do I need these now?
  2. What about Vermiculite and Clay pebbles - These were recommended on the perlite amazon video to be mixed together.
  3. Would mixing the soil, perlite,Vermiculite and Clay pebbles be enough? or do I still need nutrients in the water too?
  4. I will get Ph strips to test the water and/or the watering mix of nutrients.
  5. Should I get some aquarium gravel for the bottom of the pots for drainage?
  6. Out of everything above, what is the most important. Still on a budget LOL.
I hope that just liquid nutrients will be sufficient, trying to mix all the dry together for 3 five gallon pots will be a bit much for me in this small apartment. I do not have a lot of extra storage for the left overs as well as a container to mix 15 gal of soil. LOL.


Fingers crossed!! 🤞
You are not going to need any nutrients right now, the seedlings will be fine with plain water, I have never used any Fox farm but most here have and can tell you how long you can go without nutes in that soil.. Again since I use pro-mix hp I cant say how much or any perlite you may need to add.

But for the time being do not stress yourself out worrying about nutes, grab them on your next payday., you have everything you need atm to get things up and running 👍
 
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There are readily available products, PH up and PH down. One is an acid, the other a base. So if you want to raise the ph you add the base (PH Up), to lower the PH you add the acid (PH Down). These are strong chemicals, you don’t need much, usually a capful or two to a couple gallons. You only need these products if you’re using synthetic nutrients. Just as a warning, do not ever mix the pure acid and pure base together, the results will produce a very vigorous reaction (like mixing vinegar and baking soda). I still think as a beginner a simple 2 part organic veg-bloom dry fertilizer would be easier for you.
Buddy, all I use is synthetic solubles
I don’t ever ph.
 
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Wow... I had a post just sitting in here. I never posted it. LOL. Nice to see it held.

Not relevant now so I deleted it.

Just wanted to share that. 🤣
 
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I started researching Advanced Nutrients, as recommended. I noticed they have an organic line. Anyone using OG Organics? Some of the names are the same as their synthetics... Like Bud Candy..... Love that name LOL.

How much should I buy? Or how much will I need for 3-6 plants a year. I can grow up to 4 at a time.... My tent will hold 1-3 depending on the grow. I have seen a photo of one persons plant in a 3x3 that filled the entire tent. OMG that thing was beautiful! I have been told I can possible get 2 grows a year in depending on the seeds and plant. Will a quart of each work? There is a feeding schedule I was looking at from this company. One had 10 different recommended nutrients, the other had 16. OMG! No wonder I am paying 75.00 a quarter. 🙀

Seeds came yesterday, I really want to get them in some soil. I need to go get different soil, I guess the Ocean Forest is too hot for seeds..... FML.... always something! We had some storms yesterday, I was going to go after work but it would have been a bag of mud by time I walked home 🤣 I can go tomorrow after work... today is a late day for me 😞

Anyway.... call me new, inexperienced, ignorant.... but I do like the hype this company is putting out on their site. If anyone is using them, synthetic or organic, please advise me on a decent regiment for a good grow. If I do need to go with the entire suggested line then I guess I can get smaller bottles and spread them out. It looks like I would have 4 weeks before I would need the full list.

Thanks again everyone.... 👍

Their suggested routine:
 
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