So what are peoples thoughts on autos?

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SchwiftyGrower

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Dummy buds said:
Absolutely agree. Autos are for beginners, or people who can't figure out photos. In my opinion auto's are for lazy people. Lower thc, lower yields. I'd you do autos, your best chance to optimize their growth in all aspects is to grow them using some form of hydroponics
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See I would respectfully disagree on this. I see Soooo many beginners growing autos thinking this exact same thing. IMO autos are for experts because you screw one thing up, you’re getting a 6” cola that will give you a couple of grams. There is very little room for error and not much time to fix issues, so if you’re a beginner it’s hard to get a grasp on everything and fix things that may arise.
 
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I’ve seen auto’s absolutely kick the crap out of beginners, if you don’t understand the in and outs of growing fundamentals autos will leave you almost empty handed. Photos have all the time in the world to right the ship. Autos, you better have your shit together. I really don’t understand why people say autos are for beginners, sure you may get some type of yield at the end, but you could mess up the whole way through a photo and end up with better results. Really, I think it’s a speed preference for people looking to make a quick buck, besides my self, never seen anyone charge less for auto flower. Why? Because when grown well enough, the masses won’t know their ass from their head. Could you look a 2 bags of weed and tell which one is autoflower? Maybe, but the chances are no. That’s why it’s a speed thing to me. I still choose photos over autos anyday, though I grow both.
 
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Dummy buds said:
Absolutely agree. Autos are for beginners, or people who can't figure out photos. In my opinion auto's are for lazy people. Lower thc, lower yields. I'd you do autos, your best chance to optimize their growth in all aspects is to grow them using some form of hydroponics
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I'd not say they are for beginners as much as they are for getting destroyed and never grown by anyone.
 
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WillytheKushGrower said:
I don't have problems with autos. They have a place. People can choose whether they want to grow them. I have my reasons for growing some outside (short summer), but I'm also getting myself ready for fall. I've got some photos lines up including a strain I found called Gorilla Road Kill.
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Either do I, I grow both, that strain sounds awesome.
 
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I have been running them 10 years June 1rst there fickle plants that hate stress and are not run the same way as photoperiod strains, however it's a trade off speed for weed in other words you get less weed much faster they for the most part do not do well outdoors, however the quality of the flower is just as good as photoperiod weed, my apartment inspection is Thursday and after that will be back up and running black cherry pebbles
 
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SchwiftyGrower said:
See I would respectfully disagree on this. I see Soooo many beginners growing autos thinking this exact same thing. IMO autos are for experts because you screw one thing up, you’re getting a 6” cola that will give you a couple of grams. There is very little room for error and not much time to fix issues, so if you’re a beginner it’s hard to get a grasp on everything and fix things that may arise.
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Really? I've grown them after years of photos, and they were the easiest plant I've ever grown. It was like pellet smoker, set it and forget it. I didn't have any issues with them either. But I wasn't a beginner. I grew the in dirt, and ebb and flow. Hands down easiest plants to grow.

I do have 20 years of growing though.
 
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Dummy buds said:
Really? I've grown them after years of photos, and they were the easiest plant I've ever grown. It was like pellet smoker, set it and forget it. I didn't have any issues with them either. But I wasn't a beginner. I grew the in dirt, and ebb and flow. Hands down easiest plants to grow.

I do have 20 years of growing though.
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Hehehe my advice is still sound. You have 20 years of experience and most new auto growers have issues, just take a look at how many posts there are with people with auto issues and their experience level. It’s nothing against new growers, I just think the world has set them on this pedestal like they’re the easiest thing to grow when in hindsight it’s only easy if you know what you’re doing and set it up for success. 😃

I’ve seen plenty of successful auto grows I’m not saying it can’t be as easy as set it and forget it, but that’s something a lot of new growers cant do when starting and if any stress is induced you’re falling behind.
 
Itscheese94

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yeh i could imagine doing a auto with no knowledge a bee like whaaaaat but trying auto for first time after doing photo for years auto seemed super easy
 
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My thoughts with autos....

Autoflowers and soil are both tough compared to their respective counterparts.....

Photos are easier to manage during veg.....I like to be able to manage the plants in my area......training is one of the funner stages of growing for me.......

Autos only let me train them to a point.....I usually go beyond that point......I personally wouldn't run all autoflowers at once in my tent.....

I like to use autos as fillers in my space.....

Kinda like soil......I've used it.....worked great......but when I ran into problems, it seemed to take a couple weeks to fix.......

I am still by far a professional grower......but when I switched over to peat/perlite, I've had nothing but smooth growing......

All environments, equipment, strains, are different from each others.....

I try my best with what I have and have fun.....Autos can have potential......

My friend grows autos, 5 gallon pots, fox farm soil, and fox farm Trio nutes...

100% totally opposite grow styles.....he nails it all the time......

At the end of the day, I know that I'll have at least 1 autoflower plant, regardless of size, in my area......if it dies, it will be replaced in a couple days with another auto...........
 
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Edinburg said:
I have been running them 10 years June 1rst there fickle plants that hate stress and are not run the same way as photoperiod strains, however it's a trade off speed for weed in other words you get less weed much faster they for the most part do not do well outdoors, however the quality of the flower is just as good as photoperiod weed, my apartment inspection is Thursday and after that will be back up and running black cherry pebbles
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I'm curious why you say they don't do well outdoors? I've grown autos (and photos) indoors for years but have never tried autos outdoors. This will be my first year so I'm unsure of what to expect. I was told it will provide larger plants but other than that I'm unsure of what to expect.
Autos for me is all about variety, I can jam 6 in a 2x4 (with full expectations of smaller yields than photos) and will average around 2 ozs per plant, I'll usually grow 2 of each strain. Right now I have 16 different jarred strains, I like variety as mentioned.
 
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Otto Bonn said:
I'm curious why you say they don't do well outdoors? I've grown autos (and photos) indoors for years but have never tried autos outdoors. This will be my first year so I'm unsure of what to expect. I was told it will provide larger plants but other than that I'm unsure of what to expect.
Autos for me is all about variety, I can jam 6 in a 2x4 (with full expectations of smaller yields than photos) and will average around 2 ozs per plant, I'll usually grow 2 of each strain. Right now I have 16 different jarl. It's bc if you look at the yield you always get less outdoors than in, this is bc most but not all autoflowers are not very hardy, ALLSO the spectrum of the sun has red in it, this can cause autoflowers to go into flower prematurely and possibly dwarf out, there very susceptible to mold and pests and dew can cause bud rot, they also hate stress most autoflowers do much better inside than out, it's not impossible to run them outside but again you get even less yield and almost always run into trouble, this has been my experience however some autoflower strains do well outdoors such as northern lights but again most are ment to be grown indoors.
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Jumpingspider said:
Eyes are great because you can observe things with them and then use your brain to draw comparisons. You don't even need any fancy equipment or lab testing, its plain to see for all of those with these miraculous orbs inside our skulls, that Autoflowering genetics are inferior to equivalent photoperiod.

We must ELIMINATE autos and stop this needless watering down of the gene pool. Photoperiods are objectively better than autos, which are basically just hemp plants bred to have a little more thc. All the while, infiltrating our bongs and subverting our mission of creating a better cannabis for the future. PHOTOSUPREMACISTS UNITE! Rid the world of the scourge that is the autoflower!
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if it was not for autos i would have no space to even try to grow anything. my 1st time growing and all 3 have done really well with all the fluctions of temp from high 40s to 90s since i started growing they are extremely resialnt. . they are all starting to flower now. I can't wait to see what they produce. the tallest is a little over 3 ft and it looks like it's going to produce some nice buds. all over the plant. i wish i didn't try lst on the other to. they don't have nearly as many spots where they are flowering. probably do to it being my 1st time and lack of experience but they are still really healthy.
 
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Otto Bonn said:
I'm curious why you say they don't do well outdoors? I've grown autos (and photos) indoors for years but have never tried autos outdoors. This will be my first year so I'm unsure of what to expect. I was told it will provide larger plants but other than that I'm unsure of what to expect.
Autos for me is all about variety, I can jam 6 in a 2x4 (with full expectations of smaller yields than photos) and will average around 2 ozs per plant, I'll usually grow 2 of each strain. Right now I have 16 different jarred strains, I like variety as mentioned.
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2oz a plant...man i hope i get close to that with mine. doght it but if i get 28g each i'll be pretty happy.
 
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I am growing both but have photos in my big tent with 8 plants in there. I flipped the lights when the plants were just shy of 50% of planned maximum. I am glad I didn't delay or they would be into the lights. I am hoping to chop them in a week, they are in their 7th week since flip.
I started the autos much later and am treating them different, such as one topping and that was early on and probably won't trim as much.
What I have learned is that I can fuck anything up but autos are easier and the only problems were mine. I am not sure about the issues people have with autos though, I mean if you leave them alone but water and feed, I grow organic in dirt, a grower will have a nice bush.
 
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memnoch said:
if it was not for autos i would have no space to even try to grow anything. my 1st time growing and all 3 have done really well with all the fluctions of temp from high 40s to 90s since i started growing they are extremely resialnt. . they are all starting to flower now. I can't wait to see what they produce. the tallest is a little over 3 ft and it looks like it's going to produce some nice buds. all over the plant. i wish i didn't try lst on the other to. they don't have nearly as many spots where they are flowering. probably do to it being my 1st time and lack of experience but they are still really healthy.
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how does an auto save space? this argument makes no sense, and everything you just mentioned can be done with a photo, but better.
 
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