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After extensive research of nearly every TMV thread posted, and any other material I can find on the subject, I am crafting a theory to explain the inexplicable problems I have been experiencing.
Briefly, I have a healthy amount of experience cultivating medical marijuana and have been baffled by problems that I am now beginning to suspect are TMV or some other style virus. I grow hydro ebb and flow with hydroton.
I recently loaded my flower room a 20x20 space with a bunch of healthy vigorous bright green plants. Shortly thereafter as explained in my paranormal post my plants began to have a wide variety of bleaching, browning, rusting, yellowing, limping, and eventually dying off of lower fan leaves with the symptoms progressing upwards. The leaves develop severe necrosis that comes in a wide variety of positions, colors shades, and eventually must be removed. I am pretty OCD about growing and am an equipment junkie. Subsequently, many of the common explanations for these issues can be ruled out.
I monitor my temperature and humidity every 24 hours, recording max and mins. All my reservoirs are monitored by blue lab constant 3 in 1 read-out ph and ppm sensors. My ph is always between 5.5-6.2. And my PPM's are 1000 on the x70 scale. My temperature never cracks 82 daytime and stays around 73 night time. I vigilantly monitor my pumps to make sure there aren't any issues with the tables not getting water. My co2 runs at 1100 ppm during the day and I pump in fresh air at night to make sure my night time ppm's never go over 600. I also sacrificed two plants that were afflicted by this condition to examine their root system and stems and did not find any visual proof of stem rot or other root problems. Additionally I have done what I usually do with plants that are struggling in my hydro system which is to flush with str8 water and to hygrozyme the plants in case there is some issue with the roots.
All of this has made no difference in whatever is plaguing the plants as the illness continues to bleach, necrosis and destroy fan leaves moving from the bottom upwards.
Since these plants are flowering I do not need to explain to experienced growers how devastating a problem like this can be.
The plants are now on day 17 of flower and though they have grown vertically they have not "filled" in and generally seem to be lacking in growth and development. Additionally the plants are barley up-taking water as I almost never have to add water to their reservoirs. When the plants are doing good in my system the water level seems to be down in their reservoir pretty significantly almost daily.
I am a super paranoid person and am really reluctant to post any pictures. All I can say is that my plants have many of the symptoms posted in other threads about TMV Or similar virus. The mosaic pattern on leaves the crooked leaf fingers. The holes in leaves that appear to be from insects when the rooms are completely sealed and no insects are inside.
I know this a massive wall of text and I probably lost 90 percent of the people who were reading this. But if it is TMV OR some virus what is a grower to do? the shit seems like plant fucking aids and like the post says my soul is pretty fucking crushed here. got so much on the line don’t need to tell others about what that really means. need to figure this shit out.
I have read in other threads that people give aspirin to their plants and that makes a difference? if aspirin helps how do people give it to their plants? crush it up and mix it in the res? If so what is the dilution rate? Can it be mixed in a hydro res while there is nutes in the res or should be only added with pure water? Cuz I don’t like the idea of spraying aspirin on flowering buds.
I am ordering the TMV test strips but from my reading cannabis almost always tests negative FOR TMV because the form of TMV or whatever fucking virus it is that affects cannabis plants isn't something the strips test for. (The strips only test for 5 subtypes of TMV when there is 100's) Many people are describing this disease as plant herpes and that it flares from time to time and that the worse it can do is flare on you when in flower which is exactly the unenviable position that I find myself in in this evening.
My apologizes for the rambling nature of this post as I have drank too many magic hats. Any help or insight is highly apprecaited and could save my soul.
Ive heard of Physan 20 as something that can help with cleaning and disinfecting shit. Please share your stories about TMV and any other cannabis virus and what actions you took to try and combat the situation.
Please also share any links you might have to threads with vlaubale information or links to products that might help with the problem. I have seen a product RNA pro from hemp mosiac virus .com but it seems super shady and like a scam website. So far only promising thing I've heard about this virus is that it flares and that people can still grow high quality meds. And that maybe Aspirin helps?
Briefly, I have a healthy amount of experience cultivating medical marijuana and have been baffled by problems that I am now beginning to suspect are TMV or some other style virus. I grow hydro ebb and flow with hydroton.
I recently loaded my flower room a 20x20 space with a bunch of healthy vigorous bright green plants. Shortly thereafter as explained in my paranormal post my plants began to have a wide variety of bleaching, browning, rusting, yellowing, limping, and eventually dying off of lower fan leaves with the symptoms progressing upwards. The leaves develop severe necrosis that comes in a wide variety of positions, colors shades, and eventually must be removed. I am pretty OCD about growing and am an equipment junkie. Subsequently, many of the common explanations for these issues can be ruled out.
I monitor my temperature and humidity every 24 hours, recording max and mins. All my reservoirs are monitored by blue lab constant 3 in 1 read-out ph and ppm sensors. My ph is always between 5.5-6.2. And my PPM's are 1000 on the x70 scale. My temperature never cracks 82 daytime and stays around 73 night time. I vigilantly monitor my pumps to make sure there aren't any issues with the tables not getting water. My co2 runs at 1100 ppm during the day and I pump in fresh air at night to make sure my night time ppm's never go over 600. I also sacrificed two plants that were afflicted by this condition to examine their root system and stems and did not find any visual proof of stem rot or other root problems. Additionally I have done what I usually do with plants that are struggling in my hydro system which is to flush with str8 water and to hygrozyme the plants in case there is some issue with the roots.
All of this has made no difference in whatever is plaguing the plants as the illness continues to bleach, necrosis and destroy fan leaves moving from the bottom upwards.
Since these plants are flowering I do not need to explain to experienced growers how devastating a problem like this can be.
The plants are now on day 17 of flower and though they have grown vertically they have not "filled" in and generally seem to be lacking in growth and development. Additionally the plants are barley up-taking water as I almost never have to add water to their reservoirs. When the plants are doing good in my system the water level seems to be down in their reservoir pretty significantly almost daily.
I am a super paranoid person and am really reluctant to post any pictures. All I can say is that my plants have many of the symptoms posted in other threads about TMV Or similar virus. The mosaic pattern on leaves the crooked leaf fingers. The holes in leaves that appear to be from insects when the rooms are completely sealed and no insects are inside.
I know this a massive wall of text and I probably lost 90 percent of the people who were reading this. But if it is TMV OR some virus what is a grower to do? the shit seems like plant fucking aids and like the post says my soul is pretty fucking crushed here. got so much on the line don’t need to tell others about what that really means. need to figure this shit out.
I have read in other threads that people give aspirin to their plants and that makes a difference? if aspirin helps how do people give it to their plants? crush it up and mix it in the res? If so what is the dilution rate? Can it be mixed in a hydro res while there is nutes in the res or should be only added with pure water? Cuz I don’t like the idea of spraying aspirin on flowering buds.
I am ordering the TMV test strips but from my reading cannabis almost always tests negative FOR TMV because the form of TMV or whatever fucking virus it is that affects cannabis plants isn't something the strips test for. (The strips only test for 5 subtypes of TMV when there is 100's) Many people are describing this disease as plant herpes and that it flares from time to time and that the worse it can do is flare on you when in flower which is exactly the unenviable position that I find myself in in this evening.
My apologizes for the rambling nature of this post as I have drank too many magic hats. Any help or insight is highly apprecaited and could save my soul.
Ive heard of Physan 20 as something that can help with cleaning and disinfecting shit. Please share your stories about TMV and any other cannabis virus and what actions you took to try and combat the situation.
Please also share any links you might have to threads with vlaubale information or links to products that might help with the problem. I have seen a product RNA pro from hemp mosiac virus .com but it seems super shady and like a scam website. So far only promising thing I've heard about this virus is that it flares and that people can still grow high quality meds. And that maybe Aspirin helps?
