These are both jack herer autos. Since the late flowering debacle i had on the homemade DWC system, i bought a root spa bucket system. Still using 2 spider farmer sf1000's, and i will still be using advanced nutrients ph perfect grow, micro, bloom 3 part nutrients since i still have a quite alot of it and it worked for me. I guess i will try to post weekly. These were planted 3 days ago.