Taco leaves, curling outdoors

[420Artie]

Leaves started curling as if they dont want sun. Growing in amended coco, outdoor 45 gallon and 65 gallon, tap water, started with dry fertilizer thats when it started. Last time this happened to was with an indoor grow what fixed last time was raising the lights. Checked for broad mites and russets with scope didn't see any.

 

[420Artie]

 

[weedtech]

Mmmm. Tacos.


This is a transpiration reaction. Dry root ball? Normally, I'd assume damaged roots or something like that. Here with airpots, I've seen this before when I used them and watered manually. The core root ball is dry and whatever you are putting in the pot is not getting soaked in.

 

[420Artie]

It did start on a very hot week like upper 90's . I hope my medium has just become a little hydrophobic man that would be awesome if thats all thats wrong.

 

[420Artie]

After a heavy watering I check my root mass after two days by digging with my hand deep like 8 inches deep and they kinda dry.

 

[420Artie]

plants are growing vigorously though me thinking the top growth is too big compared to my root ball. I'm hydrating the shit out them now as I type and also to flush them in case of nutrient lock out.

 

[SPARECHANGE]

how does one even test nutes at such large scale? slurry?
christ and I'm worried about 9" transitions...
there's no root pruning... option... i can't imagine. i couldn't even grow out a clone off that beast. it'd b too tall to even put the clone IN my tent, much less my garage door.
I'm glad weed tech knew cause it's definitely a different kinda taco than I'm use to and it is reminiscent of over water/dry so made a cool connection for me
ty... tech.

 

[SPARECHANGE]

tech, will those leaves recover, like a typical shrug, or r they forever tacos?

 

[SPARECHANGE]

420/tech- could he go foliar to help em recover sooner around dawn?

 

[Madmax]

Shes dry bro.give her good drink.but not all at once give her half wait 10-15mins then give her the rest.if shes like it the nxt day same temps up the amount of water your giving her..see if you can get a moisture meter from the hardware store.they are a good little tool .you will know how much water she will need daily then..

Cheers max

 

[420Artie]

 

[420Artie]

First two pics are the plants that got a heavy watering ran the garden hose through each one of those first two for an hour. The last two bottom pics didn't get a heavy watering.
The ones that got the heavy watering look much better.

 

[420Artie]

how does one even test nutes at such large scale? slurry?
christ and I'm worried about 9" transitions...
there's no root pruning... option... i can't imagine. i couldn't even grow out a clone off that beast. it'd b too tall to even put the clone IN my tent, much less my garage door.
I'm glad weed tech knew cause it's definitely a different kinda taco than I'm use to and it is reminiscent of over water/dry so made a cool connection for me
ty... tech.

Yes, a slurry test would be the ideal way to test for ph and ppm but it coul'd still be inaccurate so I dont even bother to test ph or run off on outdoor.

 

[420Artie]

420/tech- could he go foliar to help em recover sooner around dawn?

I could go foliar but I think that would make my top growth get bigger and my root mass wouldn't keep up ,not enough water being pump up which is what I think I have going on now.

 

[420Artie]

Shes dry bro.give her good drink.but not all at once give her half wait 10-15mins then give her the rest.if shes like it the nxt day same temps up the amount of water your giving her..see if you can get a moisture meter from the hardware store.they are a good little tool .you will know how much water she will need daily then..

Cheers max

Its looking like that's whats wrong not enough water or my grow medium had become hydrophobic. I'm still gonna scope for mites just in case .

 

[420Artie]

tech, will those leaves recover, like a typical shrug, or r they forever tacos?

Looks like some leaves did recover but not all.

 

[weedtech]

In my experience - noticing the taco and reacting quickly will minimize damage. Any parts that actually go limp will be beyond recovery.

I think the best way to model this is to think of constant flow. From roots to leaves, water molecules move up through the system and the only regulator is photosynthesis rate - and that is largely light dependent. The mechanism is hardwired to transpire water as carbon is fixed in the chloroplasts.
Outdoors in intense light and moderate heat - the taco is the only way the plant can slow this down, to preserve water in a crisis. The limp parts that do not recover were unable maintain enough moisture and they lose any control to shape the plant in a protective stance. Since the system is basically a straw, a siphon of sorts. A bubble or air-gap formed in the straw and flow is impossible. So that portion dies, rather quickly in the crisis.


I'd be very careful about any foliage feeding with that dense canopy. Bad shit will happen if the wrong spores are in the air at the time.

Nice plants.