THE MYTH OF HAWAIIAN budz being the best

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i was watching future cannabis project nerd genetics ep today and they said hawaii highs dont cross over to mainland grows...

i agree and disagree... you know how everyone is all we grow the best pNW,cali,ANE,southern,midwest, appilacia and them big rivers... hawaii we all claim the best in the world... its not... none of them are and all of them have the potential to be the best...
i hear people talk about the soil in hawaii and cali like thats why its so great... naw plenty of trash buds come out of them and everywhere, but occasionally a grower goes beyond a bottled line and learns to speak plant. the result no matter where they grow are astounding! no it wont be synthetic or salts... its hardy organic practices and dedication to the craft... knowing how to speak plant and responding to the plant... i can go anywhere and smoke a bud from the region that is epic organic... and i can also smoke 20 more that are sub par organics and even more just bottled salts... and though you can get your salt grows down and any grow style down to produce something that looks and smells maybe even taste great with a n effect but nothing compares to organics of any kind be it soil or hydro ect....

arjan said it he legit won all those cups i smoked his strains and herd his dry cure method and brah i know he legit won those cups. but he still said organics are the best... but really he said outdoor soil organics but im paraphrasing... super lemon haze, lemon skunk, hymilian gold...white widow if you haven't smoked white widow then i assume you weren't smoking in the early 2000s. legit.

i had hawaii strains grown in the mainland and no they were not the same but they had the essence of the experience i bet if it was legit living soil it would have been chron... but i think some folks just have a green thumb.

but i had buds from the mainland on the east coast like 10yrs ago from ANE and the Appalachia and it was chron like hawaii high grade the real hawaii high grade. but weed wasnt as fun after shrooms... still proved that anyone anywhere can grow always content chron nugs and that the dudes in hawaii growing that legendary shit are probably really amazing growers...

some seed companies have it... others dont have it... it starts there. n continues into your medium choices and plant foods microbes... then you can lose it again in the conditions of the grow and again in the dry and again in the cure. so much has to go right ... but with the right seed you can cut a lot of the conditions out ...

but i have had hawaii ditch weed that put me on the moon. ugly buds... but the growers were epic ...

raffa cropped a desert, how much of the us is a desert?
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mysticepipedon

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I can only relate my experiences growing Hawaiian seeds, outdoors in New England, in the late 70s. They were very similar to those of DJ Short, who wrote about the genetics available at that time.

Back then, almost all weed was seeded. I would save the seeds from the best weed I had all year and grow them in the summer. I had an unusual situation, because I was close to large body of salt water that kept frost at bay until late November, early December.

With Colombian Gold, my weed was always about as good as the reefer it came from or better. With Hawaiian, the weed came out about as good as the Colombian, but NEVER close to the original Hawaii-grown Hawaiian. I figured it was cold temperatures and I'm sure that had something to do with it. But DJ Short seemed to see the same thing. His theory was the relatively constant climate/temperatures of Hawaii had something to do with it.

I can't say why it was that way. If we had indoor abilities at that time, maybe we'd know.
 
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I can only relate my experiences growing Hawaiian seeds, outdoors in New England, in the late 70s. They were very similar to those of DJ Short, who wrote about the genetics available at that time.

Back then, almost all weed was seeded. I would save the seeds from the best weed I had all year and grow them in the summer. I had an unusual situation, because I was close to large body of salt water that kept frost at bay until late November, early December.

With Colombian Gold, my weed was always about as good as the reefer it came from or better. With Hawaiian, the weed came out about as good as the Colombian, but NEVER close to the original Hawaii-grown Hawaiian. I figured it was cold temperatures and I'm sure that had something to do with it. But DJ Short seemed to see the same thing. His theory was the relatively constant climate/temperatures of Hawaii had something to do with it.

I can't say why it was that way. If we had indoor abilities at that time, maybe we'd know.
honestly i think its the volcanic soil life and all the blood that was shed on the land gave it a very diverse microbe thing... but OG ocean grown maybe the ions in the air... if only you could have smoked my indoor it was as good or better then most out door... my em1 contaminated 818headband was an amazing hike... trippping happy but freeeking tripping.

yeah man those south american landraces were epic... i want some colombian gold... i only had colombian pink...
 
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I can only relate my experiences growing Hawaiian seeds, outdoors in New England, in the late 70s. They were very similar to those of DJ Short, who wrote about the genetics available at that time.

Back then, almost all weed was seeded. I would save the seeds from the best weed I had all year and grow them in the summer. I had an unusual situation, because I was close to large body of salt water that kept frost at bay until late November, early December.

With Colombian Gold, my weed was always about as good as the reefer it came from or better. With Hawaiian, the weed came out about as good as the Colombian, but NEVER close to the original Hawaii-grown Hawaiian. I figured it was cold temperatures and I'm sure that had something to do with it. But DJ Short seemed to see the same thing. His theory was the relatively constant climate/temperatures of Hawaii had something to do with it.

I can't say why it was that way. If we had indoor abilities at that time, maybe we'd know.
day 85 night can be 40... its your fert selection and mircobes but like 90% the starting genetics...
 
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terroir, Genetics, Grower style. Same trinity of things no matter where you grow. I will say...having grown in oregon, cali, and now hawaii, Cali is by far the easiest to produce top shelf sungrown. Hawaii is the hardest. Just my 2 cents
molds love hawaii...
 
Backyard_Boogie

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Yeah I think that nowadays the location where your growing definitely still makes a difference but not as much as it did back in the day. I think the "lore" that was going around was because everyone kept genetics tight to the chest, therefore weed from these coveted areas was way hotter than the other lower grade swag floating around. Now that so many states have legalized the taboo has faded and growers all around can share top grade genetics. Especially since indoor has evolved now people everywhere can grow at the very least solid weed. Im from Cali and back when I was in High School I remember some really hot flame on the streets. Bad ass OG that would stink out an entire house party when you had one little baggie in your pocket. Its been a minuet since I have smelled that super hard gas its definitely become much harder to find now.
 
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Yeah I think that nowadays the location where your growing definitely still makes a difference but not as much as it did back in the day. I think the "lore" that was going around was because everyone kept genetics tight to the chest, therefore weed from these coveted areas was way hotter than the other lower grade swag floating around. Now that so many states have legalized the taboo has faded and growers all around can share top grade genetics. Especially since indoor has evolved now people everywhere can grow at the very least solid weed. Im from Cali and back when I was in High School I remember some really hot flame on the streets. Bad ass OG that would stink out an entire house party when you had one little baggie in your pocket. Its been a minuet since I have smelled that super hard gas its definitely become much harder to find now.
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