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[Ninjadogma]

Trivia time!

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Who thinks this is nute burn?

Who thinks its a micronutrient thing?

Who thinks its a fungus like septoria or something?

Oh noez, somebody got plant herpes!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Oh noez, somebody got plant herpes!

i *think* its an early CA or manganese deficiency, allowing a latent asymptomatic septoria infection to show but only on the deficient tissue.

But im gonna have to let it get a little worse to know for sure. And it may just stop dead in its tracks after tonight's feeding too. At which point ill still be wondering if she has septoria, and if shes just asymtomatic.


Septoria is spread by sap suckers though, might as well be plant herpes.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Psychedelic Banjo, this freak of nature still praying Into 1800+ ppfd from a full spec panel about 3.5 inches away 10 mins before lights out. Day in, day out. Just fed heavy a minute ago too, standing proud like the freak she is lol

If anything like last run she won't burn either, just do lots of really cool color shifty stuffs Under a new panel with a smoother redder spectrum now too.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I never got mine to calibrate and I'm good with that... I only need to be ballpark for what I do... and I've checked what my meter reads against what red phenol reads and I just use "Kentucky Windage" to know where I'm at within 1/10 of a point.

To be honest most of the time, especially in veg I'm so used to the increments of the feeds that I use and when that it really just comes out to check what I'm doing every now and then.

In flower when I'm stupidly running 4-6 distinct plants in a single tent, I whip it out a lot more often



Couple maui86 x haymeadow leaves from two female phenos too close to call til I see em flower.

Need to break these ladies down into some clones and start straining them well over a month ago . They're root bound, light burned, underfed, overfed, and mad at me. As is tradition with my vegging girls after I move again

 

[closettrapper217]

she just has a butt now. Put some tape around her and carry on!


i had a plant i topped too late outdoors one year many years ago as a teenager, in a storm it split down like a foot of stalk to the ground, i panicked but everyone online just said tape her and stake her, by harvest it had ants and slugs and shit eating the stem from the inside out. She was my dankest flower, and best yielder of that year.

I put a zip tie around that thing in honor of @Captspaulding

 

[Grownsince95]

i *think* its an early CA or manganese deficiency, allowing a latent asymptomatic septoria infection to show but only on the deficient tissue.

But im gonna have to let it get a little worse to know for sure. And it may just stop dead in its tracks after tonight's feeding too. At which point ill still be wondering if she has septoria, and if shes just asymtomatic.


Septoria is spread by sap suckers though, might as well be plant herpes.

Tip burn is just a highly localized Ca deficiency. Usually from larger temporary drops in VPD, like we find in tent grows when the lights turn off. Because Ca is a immobile nutrient, it depends on water movement in the plant to get to where it needs to be from the root zone.

Think of it like a line of sprinklers all attached to the same hose, when you cut the pressure off, the last sprinkler in the line looses it's pressure first, followed by the rest until you reach the source. This is the way VPD and Ca works.

The fact that Ca creates the structure that builds strong cells walls means that it's not a big jump to assume that these cells are more susceptible to fungal infections.

You are definitely on the right track with your diagnosis

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

Since Marty is at his daughters graduation you all should link up. Marty has that delorean Time Machine so it should work out.

Uhh I have a daughter?? Lol and she’s graduated college??? This is news to me.

 

[Magnumsmydog]

So took the two boys out on the river today and had this fucked up thing crawl over my boot.......

What in the actual fuck is this goddamn thing

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

Beat the “ this is for weed” tax and got a better product? I fuckin like it! lol

You think that the mark up is bad for weed, try flyfishing, it’s ridiculous to buy 30 meters worth fluorocarbon for flyfishing at $15.99 vs 300 meters for spinning rods at the same price. That’s like a 900% mark up.

 

[Magnumsmydog]

So took the two boys out on the river today and had this fucked up thing crawl over my boot.......

What in the actual fuck is this goddamn thing

Was about 4 inches long and 3/4 inch wide

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

So took the two boys out on the river today and had this fucked up thing crawl over my boot.......

What in the actual fuck is this goddamn thing

That’s a Hellgrammite or the larvae form of a dobson fly.
Larvae:

Adult winged version:

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

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I have bought weed in a can before, in fact it was super lemon haze just like that stuff.

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

Oh noez, somebody got plant herpes!

Fungus

 

[Magnumsmydog]

That’s a Hellgrammite or the larvae form of a dobson fly.
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Adult winged version:
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Hell yeah Marty thats it. I would not hold that goddamn thing

 

[Mikedin]

This is why we are supposed to leave that little nub when we top our plants lol

this is why i tie the 2 branches together about 4" up from the topping with a piece of wire, ive done this many times

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Some psychedelic banjo x Columbian sativa buds on their way to the jar. Prob shoulda let em go longer, but oh well, I wanna get my cycles back on schedule-ish

One has the big round forehead of the banjo and the other has the pointy wizard cap of the Colombian

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

@Mikedin I assume you're one of the few here who might be interested...
I'm looking to purchase fertilized meat Chicken eggs. You raise them for 2 months, slaughter, clean, bag and freeze. You feed them with the best of the best food and allow them to forage. 12 eggs run $50-75 which includes shipping. I'm within 20-30 minutes from people who raise chickens so I'll keep looking for something local but if I can get the price down to $0.30-0.50 lb it'd be way worth it, would last us about 6 months. We'd give a couple to our youngest and his girlfriend. Maybe even a few as gifts. Best chicken, or so I've heard.

Feather's/guts/feet/heads get burried in the garden. Seriously thinking about it.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Tip burn is just a highly localized Ca deficiency. Usually from larger temporary drops in VPD, like we find in tent grows when the lights turn off. Because Ca is a immobile nutrient, it depends on water movement in the plant to get to where it needs to be from the root zone.

Think of it like a line of sprinklers all attached to the same hose, when you cut the pressure off, the last sprinkler in the line looses it's pressure first, followed by the rest until you reach the source. This is the way VPD and Ca works.

The fact that Ca creates the structure that builds strong cells walls means that it's not a big jump to assume that these cells are more susceptible to fungal infections.

You are definitely on the right track with your diagnosis

Sorry for my walls of text by the way, I am a straight space cadet rambler by nature. I'm a compulsive personality so I re-edit posts so they read better, and I'm dyslexic as fuck so I space things out. A lot

Their last scheduled feeding ended up being just a straight ph'd watering because I was super busy til like 11 that day lmao. I was pretty much 100% sure it's not mineral burn, this plant will show issues on the margins every bit as quick as the tips if you have too much mineral stuff going on.

And I've been riding em a bit lighter than I usually do as well.

I can't actually say what the RH and all that is in there right now, and I'm still in the process of moving tents and plants around. I can tell you that mom's house (where I am as of now) is old and needs work. It's humid and fluctuates constantly. I wouldn't be surprised if I have 10 degree fluctuations during lights on, and lots of humidity fluctuations during lights off atm. I've only been making sure it doesn't get up in that 60+ range when it's getting a bit warm.

And currently my dehumidifiers are both on drying duty in the basement closet. So is my only temperature and humidity gauge that's worth a damn. Most of the time in an air conditioned house I don't even bother using them.

Have never even thought about immobile nutrients and a relationship to transpiration rates good sir.

Makes perfect sense it's popping so easy on that one though. Thank ya kindly. Once the basement floor is sealed everything will be down here and can keep things a lot more consistent vpd wise.


Curious @Grownsince95 if I can't manage vpd very consistently right now and there's been lots of dips and spikes, thing I could just up the calcium bicarbonate a bit on her without seeing mineral burn anywhere? Still haven't pulled a clean run on that pheno in a tent and it's 3rd go and she's my favorite in there lol. I can absolutely just trickle calcium and nothing else up without any extra nitrates or anything. Fun part, she's half sativa land race, calcium hungry, doesn't like N, and also mineral burns super easy she likes a low and consistent kinda thing.


Open to all ideas with her, she's one of the trickiest I've run inside. (Which is kind of a b**** because she's like the easiest going plant I've ever had under sunlight, she'll take a hundred degrees and 40% humidity just fine outside, and she'll take a hurricane followed by 45f wet nights just fine)


There is no margin burn, she has a unique serration pattern that creates a trick of the eye sometimes in photos. Other than what I pictured on a few mature fans she's totally clean. (Tiny bit of light burn up top but not much) believe it or not this plant hasn't seen any N at all til tonight since like halfway through stretch, she was already darkening off down low hard.

 

[Grownsince95]

Their last scheduled feeding ended up being just a straight ph'd watering because I was super busy til like 11 that day lmao.

And I've been riding em a bit lighter than I usually do as well.

I can't actually say what the RH and all that is in there right now, and I'm still in the process of moving tents and plants.

I can tell you that mom's house (where I am as of now) is old and needs work. It's humid and fluctuates constantly.

I wouldn't be surprised if I have 10 degree fluctuations during lights on, and lots of humidity fluctuations during lights off atm. I've only been making sure it doesn't get up in that 60+ range when it's getting a bit warm.

And currently my dehumidifiers are both on drying duty in the basement closet. So is my only temperature and humidity gauge that's worth a damn. Most of the time in an air conditioned house I don't even bother using them.

Have never even thought about immobile nutrients and a relationship to transpiration rates good sir.

Makes perfect sense it's popping so easy on that one though. Thank ya kindly. Once the basement floor is sealed everything will be down here and can keep things a lot more consistent vpd wise.


Curious @Grownsince95 if I can't manage vpd very consistently right now and there's been lots of dips and spikes, thing I could just up the calcium bicarbonate a bit on her without seeing mineral burn anywhere? Still haven't pulled a clean run on that pheno in a tent and it's 3rd go and she's my favorite in there lol. I can absolutely just trickle calcium and nothing else up without any extra nitrates or anything. Fun part, she's half sativa land race, calcium hungry, doesn't like N, and also mineral burns super easy she likes a low and consistent kinda thing.


Open to all ideas with her, she's one of the trickiest I've run inside. (Which is kind of a b**** because she's like the easiest going plant I've ever had under sunlight, she'll take a hundred degrees and 40% humidity just fine outside, and she'll take a hurricane followed by 45f wet nights just fine)

It doesn't matter how much is in the root zone, if the plant can't pull it up there it makes no difference. This is the only time I would foliar feed but because it's such a transient issue I don't even bother. I learned to ignore the burnt tips and just keep calm and carry on unless it spreads.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

It doesn't matter how much is in the root zone, if the plant can't pull it up there it makes no difference. This is the only time I would foliar feed but because it's such a transient issue I don't even bother. I learned to ignore the burnt tips and just keep calm and carry on unless it spreads.

It's not bothering me that's why I proposed it as trivia more then anything else lmao. I literally meant this is a trivial pursuit of sorts and was hoping for some banter in here before I asked you directly, I just forgot to tag you out of it. I was expecting to get every answer in the book honestly

Should see my last couple of runs while moving and reorganizing the life stuffs. Gnarly looking runs. Good yield and quality still though. Honestly some of the ugliest runs I've had in years though. The underfed overfed bounce all flower long. Buds were tho.

It may not actually be vpd related necessarily even though I'm definitely thankful for pointing out it's relationship to immobile nutrients. And rh and temp both have def been fluctuating a lot, but also Her hardest feeding so far hasn't even been 1.0ec and hasn't been above like 350 ppm. I haven't necessarily noticed her having issues pulling moisture up and she's only a bit weighted down in that pic because she was a bit dryer then she prob should have been before a thorough feeding about 20 mins ago. She got puny margins for error tho.

The actual thing making me raise my eyebrow is what looks like miniature septoria spots, I've seen tips like this before on her but not spots like that.

If the tip issue persists and spreads my hanging colas will be on into jars by the time I can tell and I'll just seal up that room with a humidifier, my window unit and my better gauge and get to work dialing for the rest of flower. Those spots just have me on the fence about drawing any conclusion