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JIMKSI64

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I mean really. If a grower showed up looking for help and showed that pic? cmon. Could not bother throwing some mulch out for the shot? 😝
But seriously I am too new of a grower to try top shelf genetics at the moment. Just very unhappy with variations in the same tube of seeds. Honestly I did not expect it as I do not see variations in food production seeds.
 
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I mean really. If a grower showed up looking for help and showed that pic? cmon. Could not bother throwing some mulch out for the shot? 😝
But seriously I am too new of a grower to try top shelf genetics at the moment. Just very unhappy with variations in the same tube of seeds. Honestly I did not expect it as I do not see variations in food production seeds.
That’s my favorite part! lol mysterious!

All jokes aside if you don’t like that you’re going to have to run clones off a mother you like or something along these lines And still no two plants will ever be the same.

Even landrace strains that been growing the same way forever will have variance from seed to seed
 
figolus

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It all depends on the temperatures for the mulch, you don't use winter mulch for the summer.... some are good for retaining heat and others humidity....I'm just saying.
 
JIMKSI64

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That’s my favorite part! lol mysterious!

All jokes aside if you don’t like that you’re going to have to run clones off a mother you like or something along these lines And still no two plants will ever be the same.

Even landrace strains that been growing the same way forever will have variance from seed to seed
I am learning more and more about this and it seems to me that cloning is the way but now I have a problem.
Ohio is screwing with the law the voters chose. Plant count looks like it is going to go to six. So I pop 4 seeds looking for stable presentation. I find one and clone a run of 4 for my tent. I would then have to cull at least 2 of the llants after the clone takes.If I keep the mother I have 5 or 6 plants. I now have to wait until my current clones are in cure jars before I can start another clone run. No more ideas of progressive growing of cannabis for a consistant supply meaning back to the dispensary.
If I missed anybody just wanted to mention I told you so. The only ones who benifit from this change is dispensaries and suppliers.
 
Thatoneguyyouknow_

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Kinda looks like it’s planted In the middle of a dirt road
hes just advertising his products and showing how willing they are to germinate just about anywhere.


Not that advertising his spanish product to a largely american crowd that have never heard of it on a newly made forum account is going to get much wanted attention though. (Although theres indeed a few Spaniard and French guys here)


Not a bot though, he's just attempting some shameless marketing lol.
 
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I am learning more and more about this and it seems to me that cloning is the way but now I have a problem.
Ohio is screwing with the law the voters chose. Plant count looks like it is going to go to six. So I pop 4 seeds looking for stable presentation. I find one and clone a run of 4 for my tent. I would then have to cull at least 2 of the llants after the clone takes.If I keep the mother I have 5 or 6 plants. I now have to wait until my current clones are in cure jars before I can start another clone run. No more ideas of progressive growing of cannabis for a consistant supply meaning back to the dispensary.
If I missed anybody just wanted to mention I told you so. The only ones who benifit from this change is dispensaries and suppliers.
you could graft multiple clones to a single base to make a single clone mother with multiple strains on it. Thats a way ive seen people get around legal plant counts since most states count plants based on root systems.

Youd still have to break the laws a bit in the process of putting such a clone mother together, but it is indeed doable.
 
figolus

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hes just advertising his products and showing how willing they are to germinate just about anywhere.


Not that advertising his spanish product to a largely american crowd that have never heard of it on a newly made forum account is going to get much wanted attention though. (Although theres indeed a few Spaniard and French guys here)


Not a bot though, he's just attempting some shameless marketing lol.
Let's not forget that the USA is a potentially big market for cannabis. Everyone wants a piece of the pie and all means are good to make yourself known. In Spain, seeds from Sensiseed, Dutch Passion, etc., etc. are cheaper than in Holland....

Let's not forget that a large majority of Europe remains closed-minded on the subject and still strongly condemns this use. In France, in particular, any drug user risks a maximum penalty of one year in prison and a fine of 3,750 euros.
 
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Thatoneguyyouknow_

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Let's not forget that the USA is a potentially big market for cannabis. Everyone wants a piece of the pie and all means are good to make yourself known. In Spain, seeds from Sensiseed, Dutch Passion, etc., etc. are cheaper than in Holland....
im definitely not condemning him, really im attempting to both simmer down anyone who was turned off by him, as well as explain to the dude advertising to not take it personally, hostility from some is to be expected lol. Us americans are traditionalist bastards a lot of the time.


When i was a newer grower and royal queen didnt have USA distrobution yet, i was actually having a friend of mine buy them for me in spain, and mail them to me himself, because it was still cheaper at the time then just odering from herbies and hoping they get through. And i ended up with a few cool novelty knicknacks and shirts from tourist trappy beach areas of spain in the process too 🤣
 
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I am learning more and more about this and it seems to me that cloning is the way but now I have a problem.
Ohio is screwing with the law the voters chose. Plant count looks like it is going to go to six. So I pop 4 seeds looking for stable presentation. I find one and clone a run of 4 for my tent. I would then have to cull at least 2 of the llants after the clone takes.If I keep the mother I have 5 or 6 plants. I now have to wait until my current clones are in cure jars before I can start another clone run. No more ideas of progressive growing of cannabis for a consistant supply meaning back to the dispensary.
If I missed anybody just wanted to mention I told you so. The only ones who benifit from this change is dispensaries and suppliers.

If you grow outdoors, maybe a neighbor or two would let you park a plant in their yard to run a bigger crop? And I doubt it would win a court case, but I would try and make an argument that 10 clones taken from a mother are ONE PLANT and I can run a DNA test to prove it, lol. That's why some of these state laws have a section for definitions, including what constitutes a "plant." We have a municipal code that prohibits outdoor growing for recreational use and for medical outdoor growing is permitted but it cannot be visible to the public and must be in a "secured space." I built a Screenhouse with locking pins for the door to pass muster, and since no legal definition is provided for "secured," I will win in court if the city ever wants to come after me. The other thing they did, maybe by mistake and maybe on purpose, is under medical they did not list any prohibition in number of plants whereas they did for recreational (6 plants). So, fuck it. I'm gonna fill that screenhouse wall to wall this summer!
 
Thatoneguyyouknow_

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If you grow outdoors, maybe a neighbor or two would let you park a plant in their yard to run a bigger crop? And I doubt it would win a court case, but I would try and make an argument that 10 clones taken from a mother are ONE PLANT and I can run a DNA test to prove it, lol. That's why some of these state laws have a section for definitions, including what constitutes a "plant." We have a municipal code that prohibits outdoor growing for recreational use and for medical outdoor growing is permitted but it cannot be visible to the public and must be in a "secured space." I built a Screenhouse with locking pins for the door to pass muster, and since no legal definition is provided for "secured," I will win in court if the city ever wants to come after me. The other thing they did, maybe by mistake and maybe on purpose, is under medical they did not list any prohibition in number of plants whereas they did for recreational (6 plants). So, fuck it. I'm gonna fill that screenhouse wall to wall this summer!
there may be some exceptions, but most states count plants by the number of individual, physical root systems present. A cutting isnt considered a distinct plant, but once it pops its own root, it usually is.


You will absolutely loose arguing against this in court too lol.
 
figolus

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im definitely not condemning him, really im attempting to both simmer down anyone who was turned off by him, as well as explain to the dude advertising to not take it personally, hostility from some is to be expected lol. Us americans are traditionalist bastards a lot of the time.


When i was a newer grower and royal queen didnt have USA distrobution yet, i was actually having a friend of mine buy them for me in spain, and mail them to me himself, because it was still cheaper at the time then just odering from herbies and hoping they get through. And i ended up with a few cool novelty knicknacks and shirts from tourist trappy beach areas of spain in the process too 🤣
No problem, I just wanted to provide an explanation in addition to yours, my fault sorry, I should have been more precise in my answer
 
JIMKSI64

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If you grow outdoors, maybe a neighbor or two would let you park a plant in their yard to run a bigger crop? And I doubt it would win a court case, but I would try and make an argument that 10 clones taken from a mother are ONE PLANT and I can run a DNA test to prove it, lol. That's why some of these state laws have a section for definitions, including what constitutes a "plant." We have a municipal code that prohibits outdoor growing for recreational use and for medical outdoor growing is permitted but it cannot be visible to the public and must be in a "secured space." I built a Screenhouse with locking pins for the door to pass muster, and since no legal definition is provided for "secured," I will win in court if the city ever wants to come after me. The other thing they did, maybe by mistake and maybe on purpose, is under medical they did not list any prohibition in number of plants whereas they did for recreational (6 plants). So, fuck it. I'm gonna fill that screenhouse wall to wall this summer!
All of those things people do to exploit are being addressed. They want to increase penalties and call anyone with a plant one over is a trafficker.
And is it because of the huge amount of black market weed by home growers? Nope. Only guys busted this last year were in abandoned buildings and huge grows. One actually led to a vape shop owner with 5 store being arrested for selling hash oil vapes to kids.
 
MartyMcFly42oh

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hes just advertising his products and showing how willing they are to germinate just about anywhere.


Not that advertising his spanish product to a largely american crowd that have never heard of it on a newly made forum account is going to get much wanted attention though. (Although theres indeed a few Spaniard and French guys here)


Not a bot though, he's just attempting some shameless marketing lol.
I’ve heard of Blimburn seeds, might even have some in my stash at home, they work with North Atlantic Seed Company out of Waterville Maine.
 
MartyMcFly42oh

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you could graft multiple clones to a single base to make a single clone mother with multiple strains on it. Thats a way ive seen people get around legal plant counts since most states count plants based on root systems.

Youd still have to break the laws a bit in the process of putting such a clone mother together, but it is indeed doable.
Laws are meant to be broken 🤣 plant count shmant count!
 
MartyMcFly42oh

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If you grow outdoors, maybe a neighbor or two would let you park a plant in their yard to run a bigger crop? And I doubt it would win a court case, but I would try and make an argument that 10 clones taken from a mother are ONE PLANT and I can run a DNA test to prove it, lol. That's why some of these state laws have a section for definitions, including what constitutes a "plant." We have a municipal code that prohibits outdoor growing for recreational use and for medical outdoor growing is permitted but it cannot be visible to the public and must be in a "secured space." I built a Screenhouse with locking pins for the door to pass muster, and since no legal definition is provided for "secured," I will win in court if the city ever wants to come after me. The other thing they did, maybe by mistake and maybe on purpose, is under medical they did not list any prohibition in number of plants whereas they did for recreational (6 plants). So, fuck it. I'm gonna fill that screenhouse wall to wall this summer!
Grey areas and loopholes, some states have plant counts for mature flowering plants vs immature vegging plants.
 
Ninjadogma

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The first steps are the most difficult, but cannabis is a hardy plant that grows everywhere in the world. These ACDC Strain Seeds (1:18) are showing a lot of vigor in their initial stage in the mountains of Spain. In Blimburn seeds we help you in this difficult first stage where mistakes are very expensive. https://blimburnseeds.com/

Anything you ever want to test run in the So Cal Mediterranean climate, just DM me. I do outdoor container growing year round. Happy to run your specs if needed and if possible, and I can even throw specific stressers at 'em if needed for documenting resilience.
 

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