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[FloridaMike]

I'ma drop a bit of a hint here. Closest thing I have to a grow secret I don't talk about much.

For anyone wondering how I have buds looking the way they do, and as far as they are consistently in that 5-7week of flower period, and how I get away with the intensities of light I do.

I found this cool calculator. I actually did this math the hard way years ago when I first started using leds, and used it to out perform other growers for a while back in KC.

Daily Light Integral Calculator

The daily light integral calculator is a unique tool to help determine the total amount of light a plant gets daily.

www.omnicalculator.com

There's this thing called the daily light integral, and my "secret" is that actually flower my plants at 11/13. Sometimes even 10/14.

The run im cropping out now in week 6 to 7 with fatass, dank ass buds, was a 10/14 run at about 1500-1600ppfd across the tops. And heads up you can only max out DLI if you keep your plants super dialed in on their nutrient requirements .

Keystrokes, keystrokes, keystrokes.

My method of growing you can blast them with as much light as you've got.

Back in the day I was burning 4k watts hps over a 3x9' footprint and had
friends who were doing 6k (old school 1k hps, no dimmers) over the same
area.

Clones went in there with a couple of lights shut off and within 2 or 3
days were up to full power. (things were different I know. For one, I had
"free" power which allowed me to have a 10 ton ac air handler in my room)

I'm not in this to grow dainty little connoisseur nugz. I'm in this to grow leg
size monsters and produce enough quality meds to last me the summer, w/
only 12 plants or less.

I've shown proof of concept, now I've just gotta get out of that tent so I can
stretch my legs, so to speak, and get'er dialed in using leds.

My method is as simple as can be. No light meters. No ppfd, or par or VPD.
None of that, just a very simple formula:

• Blast'em with as much light as possible
• Blast'em with constant nutrient solution during lights on (as high as 1800ppm)
• Blast'em with 1400ppm Co2
• Hit'em with enough wind to move them around good.
• Keep'em under 95-100f (with at least 10 degree light/dark differential)
• Flush'em and reset reservoirs every 7days.
• Love'em like they're your own children

Yes, it'll cost a little bit more in time, electric and nutes, but just like that, you'll
be filling full size tents from floor to ceiling with wholesome goodness.

There is no way that I know of to achieve the same results in soil.

My last grow was only 7 days veg and they completely filled my 4x8 tent; all
without Co2, or proper cooling/rh control. Being it was my 1st grow in 22yrs
AND, my very first grow using led's. I think I did pretty damn good.

Even in spite of having to toss a garbage bag full of my biggest prime colas,
I still ended up with a cpl lbs of quality bud, out of 1/2 of a 4x8' cursed tent.


Bottom line is - As soon as I figure out how to combine my method with some
of yours, @Mikedin's, @Captspaulding's and a few others, I'll be unstoppable.

Bet on it.

 

[Putthataway]

I shaved my head again. From hippy
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to what my wife calls my prison haircut
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2.5 years and gone in 5 minutes.

I rock the old school 1&2 high and tight every two weeks like clockwork. Barber even buys a certain blade for the 2. When I would go to social distortion shows and the marquee I would get harassed by the skin heads all night long. One by one as the show went on I would get someone asking if I was military, the later a cop. They be all drunk towards the end of the show and not even remember they were harassing me. I ended up with a ticket to the addition above that included a bar multiple bathrooms, seating. Anyway I kept spilling my beer and it was a balcony like bar for you to rest your drinks but there was a gap. I was right above where the skinheads would stand it kept falling on them.

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

@Captspaulding Hey man, I pulled
the trigger on the mellies.

I just learned that swabs (and prints)
will survive being shipped in the heat
much better than syringes, LC, or agar
plates.

Looks like I'll be building a laminar
flow box in the near future. If
anyone has diy plans or ideas, I'm
all ears

A still air box would prolly suffice,
but I tend to overdo shit, plus, I want
to give myself every chance at success.

Also, I could use some tips on pouring
my own agar plates from powdered
concentrate. There is no way that
pre filled plates will survive shipping
in this ungodly AZ heat.

If anyone here hasn’t watched Waiting, do yourself a favor. This movie is hilarious with so many shenanigans. Pretty much sums up most of the places I’ve worked at in the food service industry.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

My method of growing you can blast them with as much light as you've got.

Back in the day I was burning 4k watts hps over a 3x9' footprint and had
friends who were doing 6k (old school 1k hps, no dimmers) over the same
area.

Clones went in there with a couple of lights shut off and within 2 or 3
days were up to full power. (things were different I know. For one, I had
"free" power which allowed me to have a 10 ton ac air handler in my room)

I'm not in this to grow dainty little connoisseur nugz. I'm in this to grow leg
size monsters and produce enough quality meds to last me the summer, w/
only 12 plants or less.

I've shown proof of concept, now I've just gotta get out of that tent so I can
stretch my legs, so to speak, and get'er dialed in using leds.

My method is as simple as can be. No light meters. No ppfd, or par or VPD.
None of that, just a very simple formula:

• Blast'em with as much light as possible
• Blast'em with constant nutrient solution during lights on (as high as 1800ppm)
• Blast'em with 1400ppm Co2
• Hit'em with enough wind to move them around good.
• Keep'em under 95-100f (with at least 10 degree light/dark differential)
• Flush'em and reset reservoirs every 7days.
• Love'em like they're your own children

Yes, it'll cost a little bit more in time, electric and nutes, but just like that, you'll
be filling full size tents from floor to ceiling with wholesome goodness.

There is no way that I know of to achieve the same results in soil.

My last grow was only 7 days veg and they completely filled my 4x8 tent; all
without Co2, or proper cooling/rh control. Being it was my 1st grow in 22yrs
AND, my very first grow using led's. I think I did pretty damn good.

Even in spite of having to toss a garbage bag full of my biggest prime colas,
I still ended up with a cpl lbs of quality bud, out of 1/2 of a 4x8' cursed tent.


Bottom line is - As soon as I figure out how to combine my method with some
of yours, @Mikedin's, @Captspaulding's and a few others, I'll be unstoppable.

Bet on it.

alot of that is why i said "keystrokes" to encourage people doing teir own research. I could go all night about DLI, and its relationship with nutrient demands.

C02 is a huge way to boost your plant's DLI allowance. I actually dont run c02, nor directly monitor VPD and all that unless a problem arises though. And im so used to the numbers with DLI i usually only even burst out an app or luminosity meter when im checking out new lights/spectrums.

Even considering i dont usually directly monitor vpd, id consider it, and DLI every bit as important as fulfilling the nutrient demands of your plants.

You sir, i like lol.

I actually dont mess with C02 though either anymore lol. If i needed the yield boost i absolutely would though. People mistake c02 for a yield boost on its own a lot, but it isnt. You have to dial in your nutrient regiments, DLI, and VPD range to actually take advantage of supplementing c02 at all. Supplementing C02 allows you to give more intense light, and feed heavier, and run in a wider vpd range. On its own it's just a heavy gas. The plant has to be able to take advantage of it to take advantage of it lol.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Not sure about the logistics of Torrance to Livermore, but is it possible to ride strong winds in the direction of travel to increase maximum speed?

I'm thinking whatever they're flying they probably borrowed a transponder.

 

[FloridaMike]

alot of that is why i said "keystrokes" to encourage people doing teir own research. I could go all night about DLI, and its relationship with nutrient demands.

C02 is a huge way to boost your plant's DLI allowance. I actually dont run c02, nor directly monitor VPD and all that unless a problem arises though. And im so used to the numbers with DLI i usually only even burst out an app or luminosity meter when im checking out new lights/spectrums.

Even considering i dont usually directly monitor vpd, id consider it, and DLI every bit as important as fulfilling the nutrient demands of your plants.

You sir, i like lol.

I actually dont mess with C02 though either anymore lol. If i needed the yield boost i absolutely would though. People mistake c02 for a yield boost on its own a lot, but it isnt. You have to dial in your nutrient regiments, DLI, and VPD range to actually take advantage of supplementing c02 at all. Supplementing C02 allows you to give more intense light, and feed heavier, and run in a wider vpd range. On its own it's just a heavy gas. The plant has to be able to take advantage of it to take advantage of it lol.

I didn't run Co2 my last grow bc it was in a tent(s) with a lung room.
when I fire back up in the fall, I'll be in a full room (sealed) and will
have to use Co2.

edit to add: I didn't mean to imply that DLI or any of that wasn't (scientifically) important.
Point I was trying to make is that it isn't important to worry about or stress
over; hell, you don't even need to know what that shit is tbh. Just more
gadgets and shit for noobs & ill informed to spend money on.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

@FloridaMike i love how wildly different very productive methodology can be.

i actually dont monitor temps, rh or humidity, i just go based on my own comfort and by feel unless i can tell something off or going wrong. And i blast my plants with up to 1800ppfd sometimes and can pull 6-7 week surrounds

Its entirely by feel, and dialing in is really the wrong way to explain it once youve done it for a long time.

If you dont dial in feed regiments, and increase light intensity, then c02 wont actually benefit you. I go like the totally opposite route because its very effective as well. Its by feel but i try and keep transpiration rates and nutrients perfectly dialed for each clone, which lets me give them a lot more light than most can get away with, which allows me to run a shorter light cycle than most without a loss in end result quality, or damaging average yield for the space. Meaning really fast turnaround times.

You got the exact kinda methodology id be going down to maximize yield for the space and effort put in, whereas i go the route of increasing turn around times instead of yield lol.

 

[Captspaulding]

Yeesh,
Im over it.
Its been real plants
Yall get comfy now.

When i leave come together like asscheeks.
Vid real quick
Weekend be here people
Some them spliffs.

45 minutes until this shithouse hits the terrible twos,
Now the thread gets to run around grabbing everything it shouldnt,
Sticking forks in everything electrical.
Dragging the cats around by the tail,
Shitting in odd places.
Hey shitting in the toilet!
High five you little bastard.
And lighting shit on fire,
Eating entire bottles of vitamin c cherry chewables


And of coarse,
Getting all the chicks.
Or dudes.

 

[Captspaulding]

i just saw spongle at the MIssion in denver, crazy fun show, ate a old school gel tab, it was the perfect combo

They ALWAYS bring ir.
Smells awful at times hahahaha

 

[FloridaMike]

@FloridaMike i love how wildly different very productive methodology can be.

i actually dont monitor temps, rh or humidity, i just go based on my own comfort and by feel unless i can tell something off or going wrong. And i blast my plants with up to 1800ppfd sometimes and can pull 6-7 week surrounds

Its entirely by feel, and dialing in is really the wrong way to explain it once youve done it for a long time.

If you dont dial in feed regiments, and increase light intensity, then c02 wont actually benefit you. I go like the totally opposite route because its very effective as well. Its by feel but i try and keep transpiration rates and nutrients perfectly dialed for each clone, which lets me give them a lot more light than most can get away with, which allows me to run a shorter light cycle than most without a loss in end result quality, or damaging average yield for the space. Meaning really fast turnaround times.

You got the exact kinda methodology id be going down to maximize yield for the space and effort put in, whereas i go the route of increasing turn around times instead of yield lol.

Love it! This is exactly why I need to assimilate our methods.
I already have a bunch of Ideas brewing and am anxious af
to get back at it.

In the meantime I want to try my hand at some low wattage
pheno hunting with @Captspaulding's (and your) genetics.

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

Omg same. It’s been driving me nuts this year for some reason lol and I just cut like six inches off but it’s still at my shoulders. Highly contemplating cutting that shit off

I grew my hair and beard out of protest when I worked in the customer service end of automotive repair. I had an over abundance of customers who preferred to work with me over others and even had people change locations when I transferred to other locations. Hit budget 95% of the time and ran stores for incompetent managers for four years. I basically pissed fucking excellence, but was constantly asked to trim my beard and hair. My response was always the same. Does it affect my ability to perform my job, and would you even consider asking a female employee to do the same?
Been about twelve years since I had short hair and a trimmed beard. Fuck societal norms and expectations. My physical appearance has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of my character and everything to do with what I think about fitting in.

 

[Captspaulding]

I shaved my head again. From hippy
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to what my wife calls my prison haircut
View attachment 2459213
2.5 years and gone in 5 minutes.

Its hot out there.
Looking all normal.
Good on ya chap.

 

[Captspaulding]

Love it! This is exactly why I need to assimilate our methods.
I already have a bunch of Ideas brewing and am anxious af
to get back at it.

In the meantime I want to try my hand at some low wattage
pheno hunting with @Captspaulding's (and your) genetics.

Run the gatdamned jewels.
These are my kahuna hunt….

 

[Captspaulding]

I grew my hair and beard out of protest when I worked in the customer service end of automotive repair. I had an over abundance of customers who preferred to work with me over others and even had people change locations when I transferred to other locations. Hit budget 95% of the time and ran stores for incompetent managers for four years. I basically pissed fucking excellence, but was constantly asked to trim my beard and hair. My response was always the same. Does it affect my ability to perform my job, and would you even consider asking a female employee to do the same?
Been about twelve years since I had short hair and a trimmed beard. Fuck societal norms and expectations. My physical appearance has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of my character and everything to do with what I think about fitting in.
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Excellent.
I concur.
Buncha waspy pricks
Judging a mofo.

I can smell that shit from a mile away

 

[FloridaMike]

Yeesh,
Im over it.
Its been real plants
Yall get comfy now.

When i leave come together like asscheeks.
Vid real quick
Weekend be here people
Some them spliffs.

45 minutes until this shithouse hits the terrible twos,
Now the thread gets to run around grabbing everything it shouldnt,
Sticking forks in everything electrical.
Dragging the cats around by the tail,
Shitting in odd places.
Hey shitting in the toilet!
High five you little bastard.
And lighting shit on fire,
Eating entire bottles of vitamin c cherry chewables


And of coarse,
Getting all the chicks.
Or dudes.

Lmfao! "yeahhh bring it! you love that shit don't cha!..."

 

[Putthataway]

They ALWAYS bring ir.
Smells awful at times hahahaha

And another one rides the bus

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

I'm thinking whatever they're flying they probably borrowed a transponder.

That’s sketchy as all hell!

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

Run the gatdamned jewels.
These are my kahuna hunt….

 

[MartyMcFly42oh]

And another one rides the bus

Probably one of the best commercials ever made.