Tobacco Mosaic Virus

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ColoradoTransplant

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Hi everyone I am asking for advice and techniques to treat Tobacco Mosaic Virus.

Is Asparin the only treatment that works?
 
mancorn

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Hi everyone I am asking for advice and techniques to treat Tobacco Mosaic Virus.

Is Asparin the only treatment that works?
You have any pics Colorado? Coincidently I have some fava beans (growing where my plants will be transplanted) and was thinking they're showing signs of TMV. I haven't noticed any aphids (which can cause the wrinkling/bubbling on leaf), but did see a leaf hopper the other day (which carries a number of disease that can also cause leaf deformities). But the leaf coloring has be thinking it's TMV

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MIMedGrower

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You have any pics Colorado? Coincidently I have some fava beans (growing where my plants will be transplanted) and was thinking they're showing signs of TMV. I haven't noticed any aphids (which can cause the wrinkling/bubbling on leaf), but did see a leaf hopper the other day (which carries a number of disease that can also cause leaf deformities). But the leaf coloring has be thinking it's TMV

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Could be a micronuterient deficiency. Mn.
 
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Got dizzy from staring through my loupe for 20 minutes, but finally saw some thrips (which are hanging out in the rolled up growing shoots). So I'm going to give em a blast of Spinosad when the sun drops down a bit. Hopefully they're the problem (as they're easy to kill).
 
ColoradoTransplant

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Your plants do not have TMV.
Thats amazing that you can diagnose without pictures or information. Im not looking for people to argue with. This is the third time my plants have had TMV and each time I have successfully treated it with asparin. I was wondering if there were any other treatment besides asparin. My plants have tobacco mosaic virus.
 
ColoradoTransplant

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Got dizzy from staring through my loupe for 20 minutes, but finally saw some thrips (which are hanging out in the rolled up growing shoots). So I'm going to give em a blast of Spinosad when the sun drops down a bit. Hopefully they're the problem (as they're easy to kill).
Thanks i will take a closer look just in case
 
ColoradoTransplant

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You have any pics Colorado? Coincidently I have some fava beans (growing where my plants will be transplanted) and was thinking they're showing signs of TMV. I haven't noticed any aphids (which can cause the wrinkling/bubbling on leaf), but did see a leaf hopper the other day (which carries a number of disease that can also cause leaf deformities). But the leaf coloring has be thinking it's TMV

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I only know how to identify it in cannabis. Not sure if your plant has TMV. If you want to you can dissolve 325 mg of powdered uncoated asparin per gallon of water and water the plant with this solution every other watering or once a week, whichever is more often. If the new growth suddenly reverts back to normal looking healthy then it might be TMV and continue with the asparin treatment every other watering or every watering in more severe cases until growth normalizes then go back to every other watering. Asparin is converted to salysilic acid inside the plant and this helps the plant fight off the virus.
 
ColoradoTransplant

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I only know how to identify it in cannabis. Not sure if your plant has TMV. If you want to you can dissolve 325 mg of powdered uncoated asparin per gallon of water and water the plant with this solution every other watering or once a week, whichever is more often. If the new growth suddenly reverts back to normal looking healthy then it might be TMV and continue with the asparin treatment every other watering or every watering in more severe cases until growth normalizes then go back to every other watering. Asparin is converted to salysilic acid inside the plant and this helps the plant fight off the virus.
Oops this reply was meant to go with the picture you shared. This is my first day on this forum still learning how to use it
 
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I only know how to identify it in cannabis. Not sure if your plant has TMV. If you want to you can dissolve 325 mg of powdered uncoated asparin per gallon of water and water the plant with this solution every other watering or once a week, whichever is more often. If the new growth suddenly reverts back to normal looking healthy then it might be TMV and continue with the asparin treatment every other watering or every watering in more severe cases until growth normalizes then go back to every other watering. Asparin is converted to salysilic acid inside the plant and this helps the plant fight off the virus.
Could you show us the test results that shows you that your canna plants have TMV? Because every person that I have seen that thought they had it and had tests run, they all come negative. It might look like symptoms of TMV, but only testing can prove it.
 
ColoradoTransplant

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Could you show us the test results that shows you that your canna plants have TMV? Because every person that I have seen that thought they had it and had tests run, they all come negative. It might look like symptoms of TMV, but only testing can prove it.
Who tests cannabis for tmv in Colorado? How much is the test?
 
cottageman

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from what I understand it is not scientifically proven that cannabis can even get TMV, and if it can there is not cure for it, so why do you think that your tmv is curable with aspirin? surely since this virus has been around for a very long time you think people would have done this and solved tmv by now?
 
ColoradoTransplant

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Who tests cannabis for tmv in Colorado? How much is the test?
Whatever it is is responds positively to asparin but im worries about effects on quality
from what I understand it is not scientifically proven that cannabis can even get TMV, and if it can there is not cure for it, so why do you think that your tmv is curable with aspirin? surely since this virus has been around for a very long time you think people would have done this and solved tmv by now?
Because in my experience, it works. Maybe they dont have TMV but they have something that looks like TMV with mosaic pattern looking variegated leaves, twisted and deformed new growth, looks like bleach was poured on top of the plants at week 2 and week 6 of flower, slowed growth, lower yield etc. I have dealt with it before and it pretty much goes away with asparin. If you domt know about asparin and plants do a quick google search. Asparin works wonders by boosting your plants immunity
 
ColoradoTransplant

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Take two aspirin and call me in the morning."

We've all heard that advice from doctors. And moms have been dispensing this all-purpose cure-all to their families as a standard way of providing relief from headaches and sniffles, muscle aches and joint pain.

Then it should be no surprise to learn how an important aspirin ingredient--salicylic acid--is being used as an Earth-friendly first aid for warding off plant diseases.

Meet Martha McBurney, the master gardener in charge of the demonstration vegetable garden at the University of Rhode Island. In the summer of 2005 she tested aspirin water on tomatoes, cucumbers, beans, basil and other plants after reading about it in a gardening publication called the Avant Gardener (PO Box 489, New York, NY 10028). The results were well, astonishing...

"What caught my eye in the original Avant Gardener article was it said that aspirin is an activator of Systemic Acquired Resistance (SAR). And that plants, when under stress, naturally produce salicylic acid, but not fast enough and in sufficient quantities to really help them out in time. So the bugs get them, and diseases get them, and they show even more stress.

"But if you give them aspirin, it helps boost their immune system, kind of like feeding people echinacea so they don't get a cold.

How much, and how often

The dosage that Martha used was 1.5 [uncoated] aspirins to 2 gallons of water. She also added 2 tablespoons of yucca extract to help the aspirin water stick to the leaves better. (The yucca extract can be substituted with a mild liquid soap.) Martha explained that the yucca (or soap) prevents the aspirin water from beading up and rolling off leaves of broccoli and kale leaves. Finally, she sprayed the plants every 3 weeks.

The summer when Martha first started testing aspirin water, was not the best, weather-wise. It was cool, rainy and damp. "But what happened was, by the end of the season, the plants in the raised beds with the aspirin water looked like they were on steroids!


"The plants were huge, and green and with no insects. We even saw some disease problems that reversed themselves. We think we got a virus on the cucumbers, and they aspirin water seemed to reverse it. The cucumbers ended up being very healthy."

Aspirin improves seed germination

Martha also sprayed the aspirin water on the seeds they directly sowed in the ground. The result, they discovered was 100 percent seed germination, compared to spotty germination in the other trial beds.

Scientists at the University of Arizona and with the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), curious about findings such as what Martha experienced, are studying how salicylic acid prods plants into releasing their natural defenses against harmful fungi, bacteria and viruses. According to an article by Dean Fosdick of the Associated Press, "They envision it as a commercially viable alternative to synthetic pesticides in a natural way to extend the life of susceptible yet popular crops."

Is it organic? Well, not really. Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) is 'derived' from the white willow tree, Salix alba. Studies are now being conducted on plants using pure willow extracts to compare the effects to aspirin.



Cut flowers that last forever?

Well, not quite. But current research may explain a modern-old wives' tale of adding an aspirin to a vase of cut flower to keep the blooms fresh longer. Here's the explanation: The cutting of flowers is perceived by the plant as a wound, and so it stimulates the production of a substance that not only helps the plant fight off bugs, but also hastens aging or wilting, such as in the case of a cut flower.


Aspirin halts the formation of the substance, which in turn, keeps the flowers looking young and not wilting prematurely. (For more helpful tips about keeping cut flowers looking fresh, naturally, clickhere).

Scientists laughed, at first

Plants weren't the only things affected by the aspirin water. At first, scientists at the University of Rhode Island gave Martha a bad time about her experiments. Teased her, mostly. But by the end of the summer, they were so impressed that they are now conducting their own formal investigations.



"I've recommended it to just about everybody. The people who've tried it, that is, people who grow from oats to orchids, have found that plants do remarkably better when given small amounts of aspirin water. I've tried it on my houseplants, and it does really well. Plants are more vigorous and I'm having fewer problems with aphids and the typical things that can build up on houseplants over the winter."

"Uh, Martha," I broke in. "My husband is losing his hair. Maybe I should try aspirin water."

Martha didn't miss a beat. "Well, hey, you could give it a go!"

So the next time your plant is looking a little feverish or flushed, consider reaching for some aspirin for treating what ails it.

Meanwhile, keep your hands in the dirt, and your dreams on a star.



Personally I use (1) 325mg Bayer Tablets ,crushed , per gallon of water, a few times in veg and once in the beginning of flower. I water it into my soil. You can water it in with your regular nutes , and it causes no pH shift.

I have seen ,first hand, the positive side of aspirin.

Do YOU use aspirin in your garden?
If so , how much, when , and how
 
JadedMarxist

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That artical said nothing about TMV. He'll I feed my dog aspirin for his arthritis I'm assume aspirin has benifits to plants but it surely does not kill disease, if that's what your saying!

Plus I agree I've always been told not to smoke near my plants due to TMV.

But I do all the time and all those ppl saying it had never seen TMV either, I'm from the side that mj CAN NOT get TMV.

Some pics of your problem would be handy to come up with what's really going on with your plants. If you've got TMV in your mj 3 times before you should start buying scratch tickets, and then think logically what's the constant within your pattern of getting the patchy look on your leaves. I can tell you where one constant problem may be all the bro facts the gardener has been believing.

If you want real help don't pretend your more knowledgeable than the countless years of real world exp these ppl will offer.

Ps. From what I know TMV has no cure certainly not aspirin.
 
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