Too short and squat?

[kaspersoprano]

First time ever growing. Never knew it'd be a dream come true. This feminized OG CUSH is just one of several that are like two months old and just starting to grow because my other lights was insufficient. What is going on, why haven't they flowered and why is there like five nodes in six inches on all of them. I finally got the lighting and the nutrients correct but man has this been different than what I anticipated LOL. I'm definitely hooked though.

 

[kaspersoprano]

I know and understand cush is commonly short and squat but the alien OG and glue are suffering the same fate. I just want to know if I might actually be able to grow nugs off these things that were pretty much dead for the first month and a half.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

How many hours per day is your light on? Is the plant in complete darkness when the light is off? Are your genetics photoperiod or autoflowering? What media are you growing in? How big are your pots? Do your pots drain well? How often and how much are you watering?

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I just harvested an OG Kush and have another that's a seedling that grew slowly at first. Both are the photoperiod type. I topped the harvested one only once. I loved how it grew. It wasn't very tall -- maybe 24 inches -- but it grew very wide with lots of colas. It's excellent high, too. I really liked growing that plant, so I started another.

@kaspersoprano - It looks like the one in the picture could benefit from being in a bigger pot. It's going to get a lot bigger.

What is going on, why haven't they flowered and why is there like five nodes in six inches on all of them.

It's probably a photoperiod type, which means it won't start its flowering stage until the duration of the light changes, usually to 12 hours on and 12 hours off. I wouldn't change the light yet, though. How tall is the plant?

 

[Newty]

What size pot is it in?

Picture might be making it look smaller then it is but might be time for a transplant if you're not in a 3 gallon or bigger pot yet.
If they all are in smaller pots, transplant and it should get them to start moving faster.

 

[kaspersoprano]

How many hours per day is your light on? Is the plant in complete darkness when the light is off? Are your genetics photoperiod or autoflowering? What media are you growing in? How big are your pots? Do your pots drain well? How often and how much are you watering?

I've done a lot in the two months so...... Feminized photoperiod is all I bought cuz I wanted time to perfect the process. I started 18-6 but went to 20-4 when they started growing again after a month and a half of being four inches but healthy. I had started with a $25 temu light not taking it too seriously but then bought two cheap beelux lights on Amazon. They started doing prove once I got the new lights and then 4 days later my supplemental spider farm red light arrived and adding that to the beelux combination made them take off. I was accidentally giving them easy bloom since seedlings not knowing any better but they looked alright just small. Absolute darkness when needed. Two were started in miracle grow potting mix but I suspected it was a problem so the miracle grow ones had a coco perlite mixture with mild nutrients like Earth worm castings and stuff mixed in and the remaining three were grown in that mix after soil plugs. Pots drain well but I didn't think they were going to survive so I was slow to buy bigger pots. They definitely need bigger pots but they are growing fine right now. They've grown more in the past 4 days than the first 2 months. I also added Cal mag with a tiny bit of germ genie when I got the new lights. I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track now, I've even ordered a big spider farmer light to help, I really just want to know if I can actually take plants that were nearly dead for 2 months, and bring them to harvest? Thank you so much for answers because this is like my fourth post on a site and the first time getting answers. Much appreciated.

 

[kaspersoprano]

I just harvested an OG Kush and have another that's a seedling that grew slowly at first. Both are the photoperiod type. I topped the harvested one only once. I loved how it grew. It wasn't very tall -- maybe 24 inches -- but it grew very wide with lots of colas. It's excellent high, too. I really liked growing that plant, so I started another.

@kaspersoprano - It looks like the one in the picture could benefit from being in a bigger pot. It's going to get a lot bigger.


It's probably a photoperiod type, which means it won't start its flowering stage until the duration of the light changes, usually to 12 hours on and 12 hours off. I wouldn't change the light yet, though. How tall is the plant?

Six inches with five nodes. Pretty much all of them. They definitely do need bigger pots but finances inhibit that happening immediately. However they are growing fine right now in the little pots. They've grown more in the past few days than they did in the first month and a half. I really didn't expect them to all come back to life like this so I kind of straddle the fence with spending too much money. I'm hooked now though.

 

[FuriousStyles]

Go to the grocery store and buy a gallon of milk
when done drinking the milk cut off the top
put some holes in the bottom fill with dirt transplant ur plant.
Quick easy cost effective up grade.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

I started 18-6 but went to 20-4 when they started growing again after a month and a half of being four inches but healthy.

Photoperiod plants won't flower until the dark period is longer. A lot of us veg under 18 hours of light and 6 hours of darkness, and flower under 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness. Just based on the look of the plant, I'd consider watering less frequently. Sounds like you're running a custom mix in the pots, so I don't know how hard it's holding onto water, but over-watering will often stunt and miniaturize plants. In amended potting mixes like the FoxFarm soils, I water slowly to saturation, only when the pots are very light.

 

[kaspersoprano]

Go to the grocery store and buy a gallon of milk
when done drinking the milk cut off the top
put some holes in the bottom fill with dirt transplant ur plant.
Quick easy cost effective up grade.

Lol. I was literally just reading about feeding milk and water mixed to your plants. It helps the plants and prevents powdery mildew which I suspect I might be getting because I was spraying the plants too much. I already started. I have three empty milk gallons and once I get two more they are all getting transplanted into milk gallons. It's so funny you say that. No one told me that I just looked at it and said that's a one gallon pot right there.

 

[kaspersoprano]

Photoperiod plants won't flower until the dark period is longer. A lot of us veg under 18 hours of light and 6 hours of darkness, and flower under 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness. Just based on the look of the plant, I'd consider watering less frequently. Sounds like you're running a custom mix in the pots, so I don't know how hard it's holding onto water, but over-watering will often stunt and miniaturize plants. In amended potting mixes like the FoxFarm soils, I water slowly to saturation, only when the pots are very light.

I was really nervous about overwatering because I have OCD so I was really careful. That definitely has not been an issue. Might have been underwatering at first. I've got great airflow through my closet in the air is constantly passing through the soil. I also use a syringe to feed them pretty much bi-daily to every 3 days. The Coco mixture definitely never had an issue but the miracle grow was holding way more water than I wanted. I'm pretty sure I've got watering down to a science now. I should say right now because that could change any day. Thank you so much.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

@kaspersoprano -

Please post a picture of the plant from the side.

It doesn't look like your plant has white powdery mildew (WPM). It'll show up as small white spots on the leaves. A treatment for it is to spray a water and milk mixture on the plant. I wouldn't treat a plant for a problem it doesn't have.

The plant does look overwatered. That means it's watered too often. It's important to let the roots and soil dry almost to a wilt. It looks like it's in a plastic or ceramic pot, and those don't dry back well. That would be a reason to move it to a different pot. Fabric pots dry back well.

 

[kaspersoprano]

@kaspersoprano -

Please post a picture of the plant from the side.

It doesn't look like your plant has white powdery mildew (WPM). It'll show up as small white spots on the leaves. A treatment for it is to spray a water and milk mixture on the plant. I wouldn't treat a plant for a problem it doesn't have.

The plant does look overwatered. That means it's watered too often. It's important to let the roots and soil dry almost to a wilt. It looks like it's in a plastic or ceramic pot, and those don't dry back well. That would be a reason to move it to a different pot. Fabric pots dry back well.

Thanks. I'm waiting on a medium delivery right now. Soon as I get the coco mix they get new wheels. From what I read a water/milk mixture is great for foliar or soil saturation. Overdoing it will stink though. I was constantly spraying my leaves with water and one had two small white powdery spots. I've heard of crops being lost to it, so it seemed like a viable solution, to head off a possible problem. It can only help from what I've read.I'm not going to make a habit of it. I really only have money and room for one gallon pots, so besides starting with empty milk jugs, what is an inexpensive option? Should I use bags with plates under them or do plastic ones work ok. If the plants start to suffer in one gallons ill upgrade and I'll be in a better position financially in a few weeks. I definitely KNOW I need to transplant.

 

[kaspersoprano]

If anyone has any advice, besides transplanting, I'd love to hear it. No one ever taught me anything I am learning all of this on the fly. I love it despite it being a pretty expensive habit. I'll save money in the long run though. They are two months old but almost all the growth has happened in the last 4 days, since I added another beelux light, spider farmer supplemental red light, and Cal mag.

 

[kaspersoprano]

The seeds got mixed up but I'm pretty sure the bigger one is OG KUSH and the little guy in front is alien OG. They are droopy because I gave them too much cal mag as foliar spray yesterday. They have recovered now.

 

[kaspersoprano]

Biggest to smallest: OG KUSH, GLUE, OG, OG KUSH...... Almost all two months old. All the growth has come in the last 4 days since getting a new beelux, supplemental red spider farmer lights, and cal mag.

 

[kaspersoprano]

I think the biggest OG Kush plant had a little too much Cal mag yesterday and that's why it's droopy. Humidity is at 70%, temp 80°. The top 3/4 in of soil gets dry before I water it. I really just introduced them all to calmag a few days ago.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Have you checked EC/ppms on your runoff?

 

[kaspersoprano]

Have you checked EC/ppms on your runoff?

No. I didn't think I'd need to because my medium is a 6.3 pH, i ph my humidifier, my nutrients, and they pretty much live off bottled water. The bottled water has a six point five pH I believe. I monitor the pH closely and keep it between 5.8 and 6.5 at the plant. What specifically does checking the runoff mean? I know what runoff is and I would imagine you'd be monitoring the excess water that passes through the soil, right? If my pH is steady on everything I feel like I don't need to do that. Can you convince me otherwise please? I can be too stubborn for my own good sometimes.

 

[kaspersoprano]

No. I didn't think I'd need to because my medium is a 6.3 pH, i ph my humidifier, my nutrients, and they pretty much live off bottled water. The bottled water has a six point five pH I believe. I monitor the pH closely and keep it between 5.8 and 6.5 at the plant. What specifically does checking the runoff mean? I know what runoff is and I would imagine you'd be monitoring the excess water that passes through the soil, right? If my pH is steady on everything I feel like I don't need to do that. Can you convince me otherwise please? I can be too stubborn for my own good sometimes.

I wouldn't even know where to start.