Trouble with whiteflies bought pesticide

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Bought this sprayed bottom of leaves with new bug spray i bought. Am 2 weeks away from harvest. And seen some plants had whiteflies!! Sprayed today try to avoid my flowers is this stuff safe to smoke up what do yall recommend.
 
Trouble with whiteflies bought pesticide
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StickyRicky1

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Sprayed only bottoms of plant like leaves and poocorn buds. Tops probably got lil mist or close to none so you wouldent puff the buds ? What do you use homemade sprays?
 
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Sprayed only bottoms of plant like leaves and poocorn buds. Tops probably got lil mist or close to none so you wouldn't puff the buds ? What do you use homemade sprays?

2 weeks from harvest nothing should be sprayed on the plant. The only thing would be a water mist, which can effectively piss them off for a bit, but you should keep in mind they'll just go to the next best thing, if your plant/s are the only things around, you're just telling them to move house. But even a water mist would not be recommended by most. Perhaps, I would consider doing it, if it was a really light misting, outside, on a really dry non-humid day, and out of direct sunlight.

When drying/curing, you may find most live ones will fly off somewhere else looking for a live plant to feed on, so if you can get the clusters of them now, you may not have to trim off complete parts of your precious flower later on. When the leaves start dying off, they'll start moving house, firstly to more alive parts of the plant...i.e. the precioussss.

Yellow sticky's, and heaps of them, everywhere :) Learn from it, then next time consider ongoing preventative maintenance.
 
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Never put pesticide on something your gonna inhale, go to hardware store buy a bag of food grade de earth around$6 bucks it's an organic powder, let the dirt dry, sprinkle around plant, lightly dust fans if infected, wait 72 hours, flush and check ph, this should take care of your problem pronto naturally.
 
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For late season white fly issues, I have used the mosquito coils that you burn in cabins and camping trips... PIC is one brand name. The smoke contains Pyrethrin vapor and works pretty well without leaving residue. I use a flea fogger for any bug problems that comes prior to late flowering or during Veg growth. The foggers typically contain Pyrethrins as well.
DE is also great, but I've not had much success with it on White Flies. You might want to consider rinsing your raw buds off prior to drying... white flies draw sap out of the plant and buds, leaving a sticky and sugary residue. When burned, it turns black, burns badly, and tastes poor. Rinsing gently won't hurt the buds but it will remove the sugars.
White flies don't seem bad, but they can make a great grow sub-par by screwing up the burning.
 
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Yes i know youre not suppose to first time spraying them whole time flowering .unfortunately just misted the bottom of stem and some bottom leaves/ popcorn definitely didemt wana spray tops cause they obviously stay bottom or under leaves . DC
is not available and is so stated. Since conditions of actual product use are beyond control
For late season white fly issues, I have used the mosquito coils that you burn in cabins and camping trips... PIC is one brand name. The smoke contains Pyrethrin vapor and works pretty well without leaving residue. I use a flea fogger for any bug problems that comes prior to late flowering or during Veg growth. The foggers typically contain Pyrethrins as well.
DE is also great, but I've not had much success with it on White Flies. You might want to consider rinsing your raw buds off prior to drying... white flies draw sap out of the plant and buds, leaving a sticky and sugary residue. When burned, it turns black, burns badly, and tastes poor. Rinsing gently won't hurt the buds but it will remove the sugars.
White flies don't seem bad, but they can make a great grow sub-par by screwing up the burning.
Thanks for the good tips and yes only had like ome 2 plants that whiteflies got to. But just didemt know what to do when flowering. Ik youre not suppose to spray anything on them flowerimg but was like a ligjt spray on bottom of plants wouldent hurt . But definitely will do this or just prevent before budding etc. Kust lookimg for the best soultions to her these whote flies they double up in crew so fast if not taken care of . And luckey i know crop will be ok. But definitely lookong into different methods for next time. Learning experiences forsure.
 
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For late season white fly issues, I have used the mosquito coils that you burn in cabins and camping trips... PIC is one brand name. The smoke contains Pyrethrin vapor and works pretty well without leaving residue. I use a flea fogger for any bug problems that comes prior to late flowering or during Veg growth. The foggers typically contain Pyrethrins as well.
DE is also great, but I've not had much success with it on White Flies. You might want to consider rinsing your raw buds off prior to drying... white flies draw sap out of the plant and buds, leaving a sticky and sugary residue. When burned, it turns black, burns badly, and tastes poor. Rinsing gently won't hurt the buds but it will remove the sugars.
White flies don't seem bad, but they can make a great grow sub-par by screwing up the burning.

Awesome insights from experience there. How long do you do the coils for, and what happens? Do they die and drop off or just want to get out somewhere else?
 
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1.For veg stage ( early bloom (2-3 week )
Pyrethrum @ 5% ( pyganic 5.0 which is made by same people is 3x more expensive and it’s just the label diff, nothing difference )

2. 3-4 week bloom stage - harvest ( safe to use up till harvest )
It just needs a wetting agent to work fully , I even add regalia to make em tougher . great IPM tool on all 150+ bugs and the bugs don’t become resistant to it+ it’s safe to work with.


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Another product that works for after bloom week 3-4 ( so far my favorite “knockout mix “instead of flying skull of dr zyme where it’s just citrus acid and 2x the price )

 
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1.For veg stage ( early bloom (2-3 week )
Pyrethrum @ 5% ( pyganic 5.0 which is made by same people is 3x more expensive and it’s just the label diff, nothing difference )

2. 3-4 week bloom stage - harvest ( safe to use up till harvest )
It just needs a wetting agent to work fully , I even add regalia to make em tougher . great IPM tool on all 150+ bugs and the bugs don’t become resistant to it+ it’s safe to work with.


3.
Another product that works for after bloom week 3-4 ( so far my favorite “knockout mix “instead of flying skull of dr zyme where it’s just citrus acid and 2x the price )

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How does it work nice if you spray during harvest.
 
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Awesome insights from experience there. How long do you do the coils for, and what happens? Do they die and drop off or just want to get out somewhere else?
The coils burn for between 6 and 8 hours. Depending on your grow space, you might not need to turn off your exhaust fans. The idea is to get it a little smoky in there. It shouldn't be so strong that it makes you cough or cause problems... just smells like a fishing trip in Canada! The coils can be burned as often as you would like... in a 12 x 8 space I burn half a coil once a day, or until I notice a sharp drop in critters. The coils release Pyrethrins when they burn, so they are pretty safe but they smell a little. Just about any hardware/garden store should have them in season, as well as sporting goods shops. If you are in Canada, they are more common than milk sold in bags. 😁
 
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How does it work nice if you spray during harvest.


Since you asked, both products in flower stage I mentioned are safe for 3-4 weeks of bloom- end of harvest safe stage of flower stage . ethier product will work , one is a biocontrol ( venerate xc) and cheaper for you per the gallon and is super safe for bee’s and you and won’t give resistance , where plant therapy is a contact killer and a dehydration defense against molds and bugs. Just read their websites and manual labels ( I gave em to ya )

ingredients list/label
Lost coast

Venerate :
agrienergy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Label-15-Venerate-XC-051115.pdf

evergreen: (veg- early flower 3-4 week)
 
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70/30 water to rubbing alcohol. Evaporates in 5-10 mins. Think it's an old remedy. Tip came from @seamadian awhile back. Light mist, try to avoid buds and time it to 15 mins prior to lights out. Outdoors, after sunset. Try a small area initially and observe. If your not convinced then a few drops of Joy or Palmolive in the spray bottle may work. Happy Harvest.
 
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Since you asked, both products in flower stage I mentioned are safe for 3-4 weeks of bloom- end of harvest safe stage of flower stage . ethier product will work , one is a biocontrol ( venerate xc) and cheaper for you per the gallon and is super safe for bee’s and you and won’t give resistance , where plant therapy is a contact killer and a dehydration defense against molds and bugs. Just read their websites and manual labels ( I gave em to ya )

ingredients list/label
Lost coast

Venerate :
agrienergy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Label-15-Venerate-XC-051115.pdf

evergreen: (veg- early flower 3-4 week)
And you say it works up to anytime durimt the flowering stage ? It wont affect buds xhecked it out quite pricey but am willimg to try if it works.
 
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And you say it works up to anytime durimt the flowering stage ? It wont affect buds xhecked it out quite pricey but am willimg to try if it works.


100% confident it won’t impact your harvest on quality or won’t deny your lab test because of the substance sprayed . I’m on my 2nd round and I’m all good and the rep explained they wouldn’t make a cannabis label and say up to harvest if it wasn’t true or not state in the manual. After using this company products and more biocontrol , I’m game!

canada and USA both have a cannabis label that this company maxebecause many states or counties like Canada made it restricted on their use of pesticide/fungicide that you are only allowed to use what they state on their list vs what the USA many states have where it’s allowed pesticide list and banned ppm chemicals . venerate and Grandevo and regalia is allowed in all states ( venerate is banned in Cali for w/e reason, Cali is dumb lol )

and if I was you, the “ cannabis “ label is 25%+ more expensive vs normal ag ( the one at cannabis wholesaler and hydro stores locally ) it will be labeled “ cg “ . I realize it’s a lot of cash but rebuying smaller bottles vs the bigger bottle ( 3 year shelf life ) , it’s going to save a huge amount of cash as well ( do the math and think about it, I did and I’m not getting ripped off on quarts )
 
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Of these 3 you telling about which is the better one you recommend or they all as good . Banned in cali weri feed everything shipped out of cali usually says "may cause cancer ? You are right about saving money and using something that is natural and works you can take my money . Am most definitely going to order shoukd last me this grow and next i will have 32 plants outdoor had huge issue with every canabis plant eating bug you could think of .
 
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If 2 weeks out, defoliate, no leaves no white flies.
I use yellow sticky tape and Benficial bugs to keep those buggers away.
Plant therapy ( lost coast) is safer bet if u obsoletely need to spray.
Pyrethrin is toxic and banned for use in cannabis.
PM can remove most of that prior to harvest if soaked well. And rinse in DI water and then dry, DI so that it doesn’t mold
 
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If 2 weeks out, defoliate, no leaves no white flies.
I use yellow sticky tape and Benficial bugs to keep those buggers away.
Plant therapy ( lost coast) is safer bet if u obsoletely need to spray.
Pyrethrin is toxic and banned for use in cannabis.
PM can remove most of that prior to harvest if soaked well. And rinse in DI water and then dry, DI so that it doesn’t mold
Which of these have pyrethrin? Evergreen or the venerate and thanks for the tip yellow tape wouldve worked great for me domt have many plants. But when i do would like a faster way of getting rid of the pests. Thanks.
 
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