Variety’s seed selecting and pollination thread

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First class sour x grape cream cake f2 makes, killed the small one one on the left, was going to kill the tall one but something I like about it. See what happens in the next few days.
 
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Oh the room, lots of new flavors for 2022. Trop punch,gelato25 x dosido, gmo x rootbeer, cherry cream pie, papaya cake, ogkb2.0, grape pie, tootsie, original diesel, Apple fritters, mac1, wedding cake, ghost og, puna black cherry, strawana14er(I think this was a mis label looks just like mac1, see soon), watermelonz x grape cream cake and first class sour x grape cream cake.
 
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What's the lighting in that room there trustfall
 
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What's the lighting in that room there trustfall
Each 4x8 tray gets a 1000watt hps in the middle and a 630 watt cmh on each is of it. Then there’s a 300 watt led over the small 2x4 tray for seeds. Also put 2-3 soil seed plants on 1 corner of each tray. Things are going pretty well considering how many different things are in here lol
 
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Purple punch x ibg99 update. Have a couple of phenos here. Only started with 4 seeds lol. 1 male and 3female but here’s the best looking females for now.
This one has beautiful structure and is under led.
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But this one smells so good smelling the purple punch is loud here already. This on now has a shitty cmh lit corner spot but still holding her own with the coco plantsz
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Two days ago room vid 👨‍🌾 so many strains😅
Do not think I could have your success with running that many strains under LED's. I believe you are running a combo of HPS and CMH. It is hard to get the light penetration you get with that combo with LED. Add on the additional cost to cool and the watts from lights and it just is hard for me to make it work.
 
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Do not think I could have your success with running that many strains under LED's. I believe you are running a combo of HPS and CMH. It is hard to get the light penetration you get with that combo with LED. Add on the additional cost to cool and the watts from lights and it just is hard for me to make it work.
Half these strains are in for the first time 😅. I screwed the grape pie putting her next to trop punch. But she had a late resurgence but still being bullied. Few other things I wish I would have moved but too late now. The way I train them under the net is mainly why this works though and is why weaker strains have a hard time keeping up. It be a shit show if I let them grow naturally lol.
I find the more new strains I bring people the happier they are. Something about getting something new that people really like. And I really like to grow new strains so it works out.
Gonna get some loompa wedding cake pics up soon, the vigor in this cake is very nice.
 
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Do not think I could have your success with running that many strains under LED's. I believe you are running a combo of HPS and CMH. It is hard to get the light penetration you get with that combo with LED. Add on the additional cost to cool and the watts from lights and it just is hard for me to make it work.
I don't know if I agree with this. Granted I had great penetration with my DE 1000 (@1200w) but I appear to get just as good penetration; possibly better; for nearly half the watts in energy usage. Nearly half the heat energy produced. Certainly the leaf signaling is different. I think penetration has more to do with spectrum & intensity; than any other factors. It's both.... Some color simply penetrates better.

With the cheaper/whiter 301b's I see on virtually ever LED out there; much less so. With the slightly pricier [email protected]; it's as good (or better IMO) than HPS. Certainly on a watt per watt basis. Clearly 3500k->4000k is the desired zone for flowering. The nodes during the stretch are much; much tighter under this type of lighting scenario.

Seems like decent penetration from where I stand. Buds feel very dense even along the bottom portion. The plant on the top right is the only one sitting under "whiter" colored diodes. (but receiving some throw off from the left) Everything else is sitting under 3500k lighting in here.

I've done 2-3x defoliations during flowering also. (one yesterday) Just to un-thicken it a bit.


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I don't know if I agree with this. Granted I had great penetration with my DE 1000 (@1200w) but I appear to get just as good penetration; possibly better; for nearly half the watts in energy usage. Nearly half the heat energy produced. Certainly the leaf signaling is different. I think penetration has more to do with spectrum & intensity; than any other factors. It's both.... Some color simply penetrates better.

With the cheaper/whiter 301b's I see on virtually ever LED out there; much less so. With the slightly pricier [email protected]; it's as good (or better IMO) than HPS. Certainly on a watt per watt basis. Clearly 3500k->4000k is the desired zone for flowering. The nodes during the stretch are much; much tighter under this type of lighting scenario.

Seems like decent penetration from where I stand. Buds feel very dense even along the bottom portion. The plant on the top right is the only one sitting under "whiter" colored diodes. (but receiving some throw off from the left) Everything else is sitting under 3500k lighting in here.

I've done 2-3x defoliations during flowering also. (one yesterday) Just to un-thicken it a bit.


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You have been taking great care of the ladies lately Frank! 👏🏻💪🏻
ilways seems like less stretch with the leds, guess that is soil growing as well though. In coco things get growing quick especially when they are being fed 3-4 times a day. Gotta be ready to bend twist move and adjust on the daily to keep somewhat of a canopy going. It is fun to do a 4x8 of one strain though.
 
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I don't know if I agree with this. Granted I had great penetration with my DE 1000 (@1200w) but I appear to get just as good penetration; possibly better; for nearly half the watts in energy usage. Nearly half the heat energy produced. Certainly the leaf signaling is different. I think penetration has more to do with spectrum & intensity; than any other factors. It's both.... Some color simply penetrates better.

With the cheaper/whiter 301b's I see on virtually ever LED out there; much less so. With the slightly pricier [email protected]; it's as good (or better IMO) than HPS. Certainly on a watt per watt basis. Clearly 3500k->4000k is the desired zone for flowering. The nodes during the stretch are much; much tighter under this type of lighting scenario.

Seems like decent penetration from where I stand. Buds feel very dense even along the bottom portion. The plant on the top right is the only one sitting under "whiter" colored diodes. (but receiving some throw off from the left) Everything else is sitting under 3500k lighting in here.

I've done 2-3x defoliations during flowering also. (one yesterday) Just to un-thicken it a bit.


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I 100 percent agree that you can get a full canopy with LEDS probably more even and full than with HPS, the canopy might even be part of the challenge to get penetration. It just seems that you will get more dense buds down the stem further with HPS. You can take a look at a bud and get a pretty good idea if it was grown under LED or HPS by the density and length. IMO LED's have shower denser buds at the top and more lard at the bottom while HPS have longer less dense buds. Does this lend itself to one having better penetration than the other? I do not know. Spectrum is different between the two so that could have some to do with it as well. While I have no complaints about LED's it just seems odd that most all of the large grow ops are still under HPS than LED. Cost for some of the large commercial LED bars has dropped almost in half in the last year so you would think more would be switching
 

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