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Hi . Im new here and new to growing. I have these tiny monster crazy bugs. Im guessing russet mites from what Ive read. I have some pic of a stage or two that I havent seen. Ill start there. This is 400 times magnification.
She thinks she has russett mites which are just the scourge, the bain, of all growers OutWest. But the strain would be nice to know since some hybrids/strains are more or less susceptible to burning from pyrethrin or other miticides and can make a difference in how strong of a "systemic" or "non-systemic" a grower can apply or use since some strains are more fragile in response to what specific treatment being used as pyrethrins and rosemary oil based "non-sytemics". Sometimes the cure can cause as much damage as the mites if used improperly even if the treatment is just pyrethrin or some rosemary oil based organic product. I have in application killed the mites but severly damaged the leaf and foilage. I would rather have a little burn than the mites. But I have also done as much damage to a plant trying to kill the mites as the mites were doing which really really sucked and was frustrating to the nth degree.Doh! That was a typo. I meant bugs not buds. I'll correct that.
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Make sure to wear plastic gloves and a face mask when applying "Worry Free" or even the Azamax Sara. Pyrethrins even though "nonsystemic" are not good for you to breathe or get on your skin. Please be carfeful to protect yourself in your dispersing of any of the above products. We want you to get better Sara and not deter your recovery or spur your illness further with "pyrethrins" exposure. I am sure you know this already but I only say this because I walked in recently on a younger farmer shooting and spraying one of the above listed products like a fireman at three alarm fire in shorts, t-shirt, thongs, and a pair of shades with fans blowing in his veg tent. I asked, "have you ever read the instructions for applying that "organic pesticide" you are currently showering in? His answer was "Nope, should I have?". I replied with a passionate "YES, you should read application instructions even on organic or non-systemic pesticides". I surely hope I have helped in some way so keep me apprised of how things go Sara.I dont mean to be disrespectful when you are nice enough to answer me . I don't think they are spider mites because they dont turn into the spider looking things Ive seen in all the images. They also dont make webs. I had them last year, probably from the beginning. I got a lemon haze clone that had powdery mildew. I treated it with green cure. Something still looked wrong so I borrowed a 70x magnifier. Thats when I first spotted them. They are too small to see with out help.Plants were already half way through flowering, so I used diatomaceous earth to kill them. It killed all the adults and at 70x I didnt see the eggs or what i'm guessing are larva? I finished the grow, got only about 1 oz off 2 plants. The plants start off looking great, then the leaves curl up a little then the tips turn brown and eventually the leaves get brown spots or turn mostly brown in veg. When they get in the buds ,they eat most of the tricones ,leaving you a useless mess. I cleaned the room and waited a couple months before I tried again.
The eggs look the same as spider mites but then there are stages where they dig in to the leave like strawberry seeds, grow short tails so they look like a bunch of sperm all pointed the same direction, grow long pointed tails that later break off and leave the shell of it laying there, then they look like the long tubed shaped adults.
Ive been using coco and basically treating it like soil in soft pots. I use GH flora bloom and flora micro nutrients + a calmag.
This time I bought a cool magnifing science toy. It goes form 100x to 400x and plugs into any rca video imput. I plugged it into my dvd recorder. I can see them on my tv which is far better that the squinting, trying to look into a little lens.
I found this current batch a couple days after I got the clones. They may have come in on them( the source swears they dont have them) or maybe i missed some on a light or fan. I right away used the diatomaceous earth. It cuts and dehydrates any bug with an exoskeleton, so the adults all looked like dried shrimp. Things kept turning brown here and there, so I took a closer look. No adults,but inside all the brown spots are the sperm looking things and the round eggs all over. I put some alcohol on a q-tip and scrubbed as hard as I could without tearing the leaf and they were still the same. Then the friendly advice starts. I sprayed them with bleach water, that slowed them down, then soapy water,1 tsp Dawn to 1 qt water, that is supposed to stop the eggs from sticking. It did lessen the amount of eggs. Then I tried Sevin with no noticeable difference. A few days ago I sprayed them with the soapy water mixed with 1/4 alcohol. That seemed to pop a lot of the eggs and turned them a dark amber color . 2 days ago I sprayed them with the Worry free stuff. It seems to do the job, but Im not sure I got it everywhere, so I may have to try again. I have had them in veg now for almost 3 months so they are super ready to be grownups.
Thanks White Boy, any effective product I, Sara, or others can add to our arsenals/armories against mites, thrips, etc.. is greatly appreciated. Is Azarol a "systemic" like Avid or Spectral, or "non-systemic" like a pyrethrin based pesticide such as "Worry Free", "No Spider Mites", etc...Yall should check out Azasol. The hands down most effective product ive ever used.
Out West, I do not know if you can. I have never heard of anyone using predatory mites in an inside grow and having much success or with using lady bugs either. Maybe someone has had success using them in a tent or closet grow but I have never blogged with anyone that has.Will predator mites eat russet mites?
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